Free Agent Talk

[azwfan]

We probably talked to Iggy coming back being a player/mentor to the younger guys. Maybe Draymond is talking to McGee about coming back. Like many others have said Batum would be great to have off the bench.

I’m wonder if owners pay some of these guys under the table that take cheap 1 year deals to chase a championship?

I doubt it. But I wouldn't be surprised if there is something very borderline going on as far as access to various investment deals and such when it comes to KD and Iguodala.

[Badly Browned]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

1.) Warriors can use the Non-Bird Exception. It allows for a 20% raise over the previous years salary and caps annual raises to 5% of the first year's salary, with a maximum contract length of 4 years. This contract will no longer be subsidized by the league, so Warriors gotta calculate the full contract for tax purposes.

2.) Minimum Player Salary Exception (Veteran minimum) contracts can be a max of 2 years. And raises are determined on a minimum contract sale.

3.) Absolutely yes.

Edit: Bazemore made $2.3m last year, so a Non-Bird 3 year extension is something like 3 years / $8.779m with the first year at $2.787m.

[xdrta+]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

Badly Browned answered your other questions, so I'll just chime in on #3. Baze has some pluses, but I don't want him back. I'm so tired of watching him come in and foul 3 point shooters. I'm hoping we can find someone better at a minimum salary.

[azwfan]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

1.) Warriors can use the Non-Bird Exception. It allows for a 120% raise over the previous years salary and caps annual raises to 5% of the first year's salary, with a maximum contract length of 4 years. This contract will no longer be subsidized by the league, so Warriors gotta calculate the full contract for tax purposes.

2.) Minimum Player Salary Exception (Veteran minimum) contracts can be a max of 2 years. And raises are determined on a minimum contract sale.

3.) Absolutely yes.

Edit: Bazemore made $2.3m last year, so a Non-Bird 3 year extension is something like 3 years / $8.779m with the first year at $2.787m.

Thanks for clearing it up for me!

I wonder if we could get him for a 2 year vet minimum contract. That would give him the multi-year component him and his family are looking for, and (presumably) help us with the tax as the league would still subsidize some of the deal (?).

[azwfan]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

Badly Browned answered your other questions, so I'll just chime in on #3. Baze has some pluses, but I don't want him back. I'm so tired of watching him come in and foul 3 point shooters. I'm hoping we can find someone better at a minimum salary.

I'm on the fence with Bazemore. I want someone who plays smarter, but I'm not sure how selective we can be with the financial resources we have on hand.

[Mylie10]

need a cap expert to weigh in, but IIRC Batum's contract for next year doesn't make him any money unless it's more than the Hornets have agreed to pay him, so short of $10M the money really doesn't matter for him. Still I think he likes the Clippers, and with Kawhi missing time he'll get more run not less.

Cory Joseph just became available ... don't think he's got much left.

I disagree on Batum. With Kawhi out it severely upsets the Clippers chances. And I think Batum wants to have a chance to get to a title.

I’m not saying we are that team, but I have two reasons to think he might be a Warrior this season.

First is that he was most likely coming here prior to Klays injury last season. When Klay went down, he backed out for the Clips. Same for Ibaka.

Next is the Anthony Slater who is a local writer stated on Friday that the Warriors have Batum as a target. So the interest is there possibly from both sides.

So while we may not get him….there’s at least a willingness to try and make it happen.

[Mylie10]

I’d only want Iguodala for the vet minimum. But he takes his money seriously and would try and force them to use the full MLE

[Scoots1994]

need a cap expert to weigh in, but IIRC Batum's contract for next year doesn't make him any money unless it's more than the Hornets have agreed to pay him, so short of $10M the money really doesn't matter for him. Still I think he likes the Clippers, and with Kawhi missing time he'll get more run not less.

Cory Joseph just became available ... don't think he's got much left.

The rules for stretching salary and set-offs (the amount deducted from what the original team pays) are a little complicated, but the one that matters in this case is that set-offs only apply during the original term of the contract. Since Batum's original contract ended in 20-21, there's no set-off for 21-22. He'll get paid the $9M from Charlotte and everything else is gravy. He signed for the minimum last year because the set-off applied.

Thanks I can always count on you

Well that's bizarre The Hornets are still paying him but the deduction is gone so now money actually does matter to him.

With the Clippers over the cap the most they can pay him is their TPMLE right?

[Scoots1994]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

1.) Warriors can use the Non-Bird Exception. It allows for a 120% raise over the previous years salary and caps annual raises to 5% of the first year's salary, with a maximum contract length of 4 years. This contract will no longer be subsidized by the league, so Warriors gotta calculate the full contract for tax purposes.

2.) Minimum Player Salary Exception (Veteran minimum) contracts can be a max of 2 years. And raises are determined on a minimum contract sale.

3.) Absolutely yes.

Edit: Bazemore made $2.3m last year, so a Non-Bird 3 year extension is something like 3 years / $8.779m with the first year at $2.787m.

1. I thought it allowed a 20% raise not 120% raise.

[Scoots1994]

need a cap expert to weigh in, but IIRC Batum's contract for next year doesn't make him any money unless it's more than the Hornets have agreed to pay him, so short of $10M the money really doesn't matter for him. Still I think he likes the Clippers, and with Kawhi missing time he'll get more run not less.

Cory Joseph just became available ... don't think he's got much left.

I disagree on Batum. With Kawhi out it severely upsets the Clippers chances. And I think Batum wants to have a chance to get to a title.

I’m not saying we are that team, but I have two reasons to think he might be a Warrior this season.

First is that he was most likely coming here prior to Klays injury last season. When Klay went down, he backed out for the Clips. Same for Ibaka.

Next is the Anthony Slater who is a local writer stated on Friday that the Warriors have Batum as a target. So the interest is there possibly from both sides.

So while we may not get him….there’s at least a willingness to try and make it happen.

I didn't know when I wrote it that the money paid to him would make a difference to his bank account but it turns out that was only true last year. So both teams can offer the TPMLE so it comes down to his preference.

[Brick Layer]

need a cap expert to weigh in, but IIRC Batum's contract for next year doesn't make him any money unless it's more than the Hornets have agreed to pay him, so short of $10M the money really doesn't matter for him. Still I think he likes the Clippers, and with Kawhi missing time he'll get more run not less.

Cory Joseph just became available ... don't think he's got much left.

I disagree on Batum. With Kawhi out it severely upsets the Clippers chances. And I think Batum wants to have a chance to get to a title.

I’m not saying we are that team, but I have two reasons to think he might be a Warrior this season.

First is that he was most likely coming here prior to Klays injury last season. When Klay went down, he backed out for the Clips. Same for Ibaka.

Next is the Anthony Slater who is a local writer stated on Friday that the Warriors have Batum as a target. So the interest is there possibly from both sides.

So while we may not get him….there’s at least a willingness to try and make it happen.

Chad Ford reports that more than half of the NBA teams have real interest in Batum and are pursuing him just as heavily as GSW.

[ILOVEIT]

Bazemore if a fun dude....
I hope he's not not the team this year...please please please....

[ILOVEIT]

Been eyeing Batum for several years now...
Batum and Love (from buy out) and I'm good. They would help settle the bench big time.
Poole, Moody, Batum, Love, Looney

[Badly Browned]

Couple questions for all of you who are smarter than I.

Kent Bazemore is looking for a multi-year deal.

1. Can we give him a raise on last year's salary for more than 1 year without using the TPMLE? Bird or early bird or non-bird rights? I'm not sure how the CBA works for these situations. He signed for the vet minimum last season.

2. I'm pretty sure (90%) if using the vet minimum exception we can only offer 1 year deals. Is that correct?

3. Assuming we can get him back without using the TPMLE, do we want him?

1.) Warriors can use the Non-Bird Exception. It allows for a 120% raise over the previous years salary and caps annual raises to 5% of the first year's salary, with a maximum contract length of 4 years. This contract will no longer be subsidized by the league, so Warriors gotta calculate the full contract for tax purposes.

2.) Minimum Player Salary Exception (Veteran minimum) contracts can be a max of 2 years. And raises are determined on a minimum contract sale.

3.) Absolutely yes.

Edit: Bazemore made $2.3m last year, so a Non-Bird 3 year extension is something like 3 years / $8.779m with the first year at $2.787m.

1. I thought it allowed a 20% raise not 120% raise.

Err yeah, 20% over previous. The cbafaq uses language like "120% of previous salary" so I misspoke.

[Quazza]

Jock Landale (Australias starting 4) should absolutely be in the NBA. Great size at 6'11, 260. He's long, smart, can really shoot. 55% FG and 39% from 3 this season.

I know he had training camp offers when he was younger but he's a hell of a player now (just won the finals MVP here too )

Coxman, help me out here

[Tomjas]

Jock Landale (Australias starting 4) should absolutely be in the NBA. Great size at 6'11, 260. He's long, smart, can really shoot. 55% FG and 39% from 3 this season.

I know he had training camp offers when he was younger but he's a hell of a player now (just won the finals MVP here too )

Coxman, help me out here

Yep

I am Australian, a Sixers fan and regretted losing Holmes for nothing BUT 4yrs/$80 million is absolutely absurd when you can pick up guys like Landale and Tony Bradley for virtually nothing

Holmes might be a little better but no way he’s worth 5-10 times more in salary

Hell, we paid Dwight $2.6 million and I guarantee that he’s no worse than Richaun even with his antics

[ChuckDurn]

One guy I haven’t heard anybody bring up (or I missed it) is Willy Hernangomez….. might be worth a look at on a minimum deal, to be the 3rd string center. He’s gotten some time in the NBA, but also has been a big contributor on the Spanish national team for years. He’s a smart player who, despite playing for bad teams through his entire career, has had a favorable +/- all but 1 of his 5 NBA seasons. He’s smart and should pick up on our system very quickly, given similarities between it and Spain’s offense. He’s a decent positional defender, though he’s not great.

Just a thought….. not necessarily the first choice, and again, I’d only offer the minimum. But a possibility.

[lars_rosenberg]

Willy (which for some odd reason is pronounced Billy in spanish) was looking legit with the Knicks then he kind of fell out of the radar.
I remember him as a effective offensive player and rebounder, but not very good on defense.
I haven't watched much of him though, even if the fact that he couldn't get minutes with the Hornets is not good.

[Scoots1994]

Been eyeing Batum for several years now...
Batum and Love (from buy out) and I'm good. They would help settle the bench big time.
Poole, Moody, Batum, Love, Looney

I don't get the Love Love.

[Scoots1994]

One guy I haven’t heard anybody bring up (or I missed it) is Willy Hernangomez….. might be worth a look at on a minimum deal, to be the 3rd string center. He’s gotten some time in the NBA, but also has been a big contributor on the Spanish national team for years. He’s a smart player who, despite playing for bad teams through his entire career, has had a favorable +/- all but 1 of his 5 NBA seasons. He’s smart and should pick up on our system very quickly, given similarities between it and Spain’s offense. He’s a decent positional defender, though he’s not great.

Just a thought….. not necessarily the first choice, and again, I’d only offer the minimum. But a possibility.

I brought him up a while back. Don't know that he'd come on a vet min deal, but I like him.