Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[basketballRob]

if Suggs or Green are somehow on the board at 5 the first part sounds interesting but the Harris/Wiggins part less so. Curious, what is the reason from Orlando's point of view?

If Green and Suggs are on the board the Magic wouldn't do it. The Magic have Chuma already, who basically plays the same spot as Kuminga. If they traded back they'd be in position to take someone else.

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Yeah, I don't think Kuminga/Barnes is a player the Warriors would move up for unless they were to be moved in another trade.

Kuminga will probably be good, but he's still only 18 and it's going to take a while.

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[Brick Layer]

If Green and Suggs are on the board the Magic wouldn't do it. The Magic have Chuma already, who basically plays the same spot as Kuminga. If they traded back they'd be in position to take someone else.

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Yeah, I don't think Kuminga/Barnes is a player the Warriors would move up for unless they were to be moved in another trade.

Kuminga will probably be good, but he's still only 18 and it's going to take a while.

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The Warriors are trying to be contenders next season. There will be several players at 7 who should be able to help as a rotation player next season. Giving up assets like Wiseman just to be able to pick Kuminga may help in the future but not during the remaining prime years of Stephen Curry. The only way Kuminga's on the Warriors roster next season is if he's still on the board at 7.

[ILOVEIT]

IF Warriors draft the players to keep them....I hope they go the route that has been successful for them ....drafting less hyped Junior and Seniors who can play right away.

[ILOVEIT]

Anyone know if it's more common to trade draft picks and players before draft or on the night of the draft? I would think that the team receiving Warrior picks would want complete control over the draft picks...hence want to have the swap ahead of the draft?

[killmongrel]

If Green and Suggs are on the board the Magic wouldn't do it. The Magic have Chuma already, who basically plays the same spot as Kuminga. If they traded back they'd be in position to take someone else.

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Yeah, I don't think Kuminga/Barnes is a player the Warriors would move up for unless they were to be moved in another trade.

Kuminga will probably be good, but he's still only 18 and it's going to take a while.

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Like others have said, GS maybe will be willing to give up important assets to move up in the top 4. Aside from that, GS is more than comfortable staying at 7 and 14.

[DevinVassell]

Anyone know if it's more common to trade draft picks and players before draft or on the night of the draft? I would think that the team receiving Warrior picks would want complete control over the draft picks...hence want to have the swap ahead of the draft?

I'd say if they Warriors are trading a pick for other picks (14 for 16 and 18) then swapping before the picks were made would make sense.

If they are trading a pick for a player/vet then I would assume they would wait and just pick for the other team and then trade the drafted player as then you could include his salary in the trade.

#7 - $4,422,600
#14 - $2,882,000

[Scoots1994]

Anyone know if it's more common to trade draft picks and players before draft or on the night of the draft? I would think that the team receiving Warrior picks would want complete control over the draft picks...hence want to have the swap ahead of the draft?

Draft night deals being agreed to is the most common, but often they have to wait until after the picks are made to be completed.

[Mylie10]

Anyone know if it's more common to trade draft picks and players before draft or on the night of the draft? I would think that the team receiving Warrior picks would want complete control over the draft picks...hence want to have the swap ahead of the draft?

I'd say if they Warriors are trading a pick for other picks (14 for 16 and 18) then swapping before the picks were made would make sense.

If they are trading a pick for a player/vet then I would assume they would wait and just pick for the other team and then trade the drafted player as then you could include his salary in the trade.

#7 - $4,422,600
#14 - $2,882,000

Thanks for posting the salaries on those picks!

[wco81]

Some speculation that the Suns May trade Mika Bridges rather than pay somewhere well above $20 million a year.

They’re going to have to max out Ayton and are already pay8ng Booker the max.

They may also have to extend CP3.

Owner has a rep for being cheap.

Hmm, trade the #14 and enough salary? Of course the Warriors would have to give him a big extension.

He had a very good year, includ8ng his shooting splits. He’s improved those numbers every year.

[The-Power]

Some speculation that the Suns May trade Mika Bridges rather than pay somewhere well above $20 million a year.

If we can get Mikal Bridges with our pick, then I'd do it in a heartbeat. Even if it's the 7th pick. Yes, he's up for an extension after next year but he's a great fit for our (any) team and would help us win next year (for cheap) as well as in the future.

[Scoots1994]

Some speculation that the Suns May trade Mika Bridges rather than pay somewhere well above $20 million a year.

If we can get Mikal Bridges with our pick, then I'd do it in a heartbeat. Even if it's the 7th pick. Yes, he's up for an extension after next year but he's a great fit for our (any) team and would help us win next year (for cheap) as well as in the future.

The 14 for him is an EASY yes ... for 7 ... yeah I'd probably do that unless one of the top 6 drops to the Warriors.

[wco81]

I would imagine they'd try to trade him to an EC team if they were going to trade him.

He can guard 1-3 but may not have the mass or strength to deal with bigger 3s and 4s.

Be curious to see how he defended LeBron, Kawhi, PG13, if he defended them at all. Maybe he also defended MPJ.

[ChuckDurn]

My 1-10 scale on “how much would I want the Warriors to try to acquire the following ‘rumored’ trade candidates”, with 1 being “no interest at all”, and 10 being “I would LOVE that guy on the team”……

Note: this in no way reflects whether I think trades for these guys are viable. Just an indication of if I like the guy, their game, and potential fit on the Warriors.

Lillard: 10. Amazing player and leader. Offense / gravity with Curry would offset defensive problems.
Mikal Bridges (since he was just brought up): 9. Only reason it’s not a 10 is because he may be hard to keep (affordability), but he’d be a phenomenal fit. Great player, still learning what he can do.
Simmons: 8. Seriously under-appreciated around the league, I think he’d fit great, though requiring some other minor roster adjustments.
Beal: 7. I don’t think he’ll be on the move at all, and concerned about whether it would work next to Curry.
Siakam: 5. I think he’d be better as a 3rd option with us than he was as a first option with Toronto, but not sold on him next to Draymond.
Wood: 3. Empty stats guy, I don’t think he’d fit well from a culture standpoint.
Sexton: 2. Similar to Wood, but creates a huge size / defense problem in the backcourt.

[donkeylips]

i like simmons but i dont see how they can play him, green and looney at the same time, especially with klay expected to miss time. defensively it would be great.

[Ilovethebay]

My 1-10 scale on “how much would I want the Warriors to try to acquire the following ‘rumored’ trade candidates”, with 1 being “no interest at all”, and 10 being “I would LOVE that guy on the team”……

Note: this in no way reflects whether I think trades for these guys are viable. Just an indication of if I like the guy, their game, and potential fit on the Warriors.

Lillard: 10. Amazing player and leader. Offense / gravity with Curry would offset defensive problems.
Mikal Bridges (since he was just brought up): 9. Only reason it’s not a 10 is because he may be hard to keep (affordability), but he’d be a phenomenal fit. Great player, still learning what he can do.
Simmons: 8. Seriously under-appreciated around the league, I think he’d fit great, though requiring some other minor roster adjustments.
Beal: 7. I don’t think he’ll be on the move at all, and concerned about whether it would work next to Curry.
Siakam: 5. I think he’d be better as a 3rd option with us than he was as a first option with Toronto, but not sold on him next to Draymond.
Wood: 3. Empty stats guy, I don’t think he’d fit well from a culture standpoint.
Sexton: 2. Similar to Wood, but creates a huge size / defense problem in the backcourt.

Nailed it. Especially the part I bolded. Couldn't agree more

[Scoots1994]

Simmons is broken. The Sixers are not sure they can fix him enough to make him playable and that's the only reason the speculation is out there.

[Ilovethebay]

Simmons is broken. The Sixers are not sure they can fix him enough to make him playable and that's the only reason the speculation is out there.

Agree to disagree. Let’s revisit this mid season next year

[Scoots1994]

Simmons is broken. The Sixers are not sure they can fix him enough to make him playable and that's the only reason the speculation is out there.

Agree to disagree. Let’s revisit this mid season next year

Okay. It's not me saying it, it's my Sixer fan friends. They want him to stay there, but right now they consider him unplayable down the stretch in close games and even worse in the playoffs.

Sixers are having some coaching staff changes. My friends said one of the changes was getting rid of a coach would wasn't pushing Ben enough.

[cpower]

My 1-10 scale on “how much would I want the Warriors to try to acquire the following ‘rumored’ trade candidates”, with 1 being “no interest at all”, and 10 being “I would LOVE that guy on the team”……

Note: this in no way reflects whether I think trades for these guys are viable. Just an indication of if I like the guy, their game, and potential fit on the Warriors.

Lillard: 10. Amazing player and leader. Offense / gravity with Curry would offset defensive problems.
Mikal Bridges (since he was just brought up): 9. Only reason it’s not a 10 is because he may be hard to keep (affordability), but he’d be a phenomenal fit. Great player, still learning what he can do.
Simmons: 8. Seriously under-appreciated around the league, I think he’d fit great, though requiring some other minor roster adjustments.
Beal: 7. I don’t think he’ll be on the move at all, and concerned about whether it would work next to Curry.
Siakam: 5. I think he’d be better as a 3rd option with us than he was as a first option with Toronto, but not sold on him next to Draymond.
Wood: 3. Empty stats guy, I don’t think he’d fit well from a culture standpoint.
Sexton: 2. Similar to Wood, but creates a huge size / defense problem in the backcourt.

Nailed it. Especially the part I bolded. Couldn't agree more

Simmons spends his entire summer chilling out with his ladies...he is a loser.

[and1GS]

...is that what makes someone a loser? If so, consider me Miles Davis.