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[Old_Blue]

Let's all just be glad this guy wasn't in charge of our draft board...

Giddey at 7 is like a bad joke. It's extremely high for him.

I want no part of Mitchell, not even in the 14th. Actually, I'm rooting for some team between picks 8-13 pick him, so we aren't forced to pick him at 14. Let someone else deal with him.

Regarding Duarte and Murphy, I surely hope the FO is doing the homework. These guys won't cut it.

[FNQ]

Giddey may turn out OK, I think he will, but I still wouldnt take him in the top 10. Nor would I take Mitchell, who's done nothing on offense except against us. Nor would I take Duarte with either pick, as he doesnt play defense and is just given an extreme green light on a perpetually "reloading" team that doesnt have a ton of options

Murphy looks fine but he definitely looks to have a ceiling, meaning he's a lot closer to full potential than someone like Giddey

Not really sure why any of that would be damning

[FNQ]

Watching the Rus single handedly kill the lakers has been so satisfying.

It has an equal enjoyment to watching the Warriors win. This level of Lakers melt down is must watch TV.

and made even better with Giddey becoming the youngest since Lebron to hand out 10 assists

Kid is legit

I said it on the GB.. he's better than Russ for a team right now. I dont think thats a particularly high bar, but it is true

So far he seems to pick dumb teams apart, which bodes really well for him long-term. Now all he needs is a haircut, a jumper and some defense. Think he'll do way better on his next team, which should have more stability. Stability really helps naturally poor defenders (with high BBIQ) be more impactful - like a Steph, for example. Also wouldnt hurt to put him next to a guy with a SG skillset offensively but a PG frame, so Giddey can guard SGs instead of PGs or SFs, who are either too quick or long for him respectively

[FNQ]

Evan Mobley is the best rookie big I’ve seen since Duncan. Extraordinarily talented, smart, and aware for a rookie. The kid has been here before.

trying to sneak back in under the radar

now we're ready for the season

[GSWFan1994]

Let's all just be glad this guy wasn't in charge of our draft board...

Well, well, well... looks like we've got a Sherlock Holmes over here!

[Scoots1994]

The lakers losing to OKC after being up 26 is hilarious

Yeh, and what the efing punk Westbrick is.
Like I have said, trading for him will go down as one of the worst trades this summer. Think about it, bringing in the NBA cancer and totally undressing the entire team in the process. Hey LeBrick, the superstars usually make very bad GMs Fire yourself as soon as possible.

Lakers "superstars" and the number of teams they've been on:
Dwight Howard - 9
Russell Westbrook - 4
Rajon Rondo - 9
Carmelo Anthony - 6
LeBron James - 4

Have there ever been so many "star" players who have changed teams so much?

[Scoots1994]

It has an equal enjoyment to watching the Warriors win. This level of Lakers melt down is must watch TV.

and made even better with Giddey becoming the youngest since Lebron to hand out 10 assists

Kid is legit

I said it on the GB.. he's better than Russ for a team right now. I dont think thats a particularly high bar, but it is true

So far he seems to pick dumb teams apart, which bodes really well for him long-term. Now all he needs is a haircut, a jumper and some defense. Think he'll do way better on his next team, which should have more stability. Stability really helps naturally poor defenders (with high BBIQ) be more impactful - like a Steph, for example. Also wouldnt hurt to put him next to a guy with a SG skillset offensively but a PG frame, so Giddey can guard SGs instead of PGs or SFs, who are either too quick or long for him respectively

It seems to me like his passes go in slow motion, but they get through more often than they look like they should.

It's the defensive awareness that seems the biggest issue right now.

[Old_Blue]

and made even better with Giddey becoming the youngest since Lebron to hand out 10 assists

Kid is legit

I said it on the GB.. he's better than Russ for a team right now. I dont think thats a particularly high bar, but it is true

So far he seems to pick dumb teams apart, which bodes really well for him long-term. Now all he needs is a haircut, a jumper and some defense. Think he'll do way better on his next team, which should have more stability. Stability really helps naturally poor defenders (with high BBIQ) be more impactful - like a Steph, for example. Also wouldnt hurt to put him next to a guy with a SG skillset offensively but a PG frame, so Giddey can guard SGs instead of PGs or SFs, who are either too quick or long for him respectively

It seems to me like his passes go in slow motion, but they get through more often than they look like they should.

It's the defensive awareness that seems the biggest issue right now.

Similar criticism was directed at Luka when he first entered the league. Luka, Giddey and LaMelo are ushering in a new era of point forwards. It's going to be fun to watch.

[510TWSS]

Those Evan Mobley Block and defensive positioning highlights thru a handful of games are no doubt legitimately exciting. I know we knew this but damn imagine that kind of defensive IQ in wiseman. one can dream

[Old_Blue]

Those Evan Mobley Block and defensive positioning highlights thru a handful of games are no doubt legitimately exciting. I know we knew this but damn imagine that kind of defensive IQ in wiseman. one can dream

The differences between the two were evident from their high school match-up. Mobley pwned Wiseman.

Watch on YouTube

[FNQ]

Those Evan Mobley Block and defensive positioning highlights thru a handful of games are no doubt legitimately exciting. I know we knew this but damn imagine that kind of defensive IQ in wiseman. one can dream

I'm of the mind that BBIQ isnt something that develops much either.. you either have it or you don't. I think people confuse it with player's learning their place in the league. Take Rudy Gay - I hear so often that he developed BBIQ. Not really. He just learned that he couldnt be a top scoring option in the league and be successful, so he put effort somewhere else. Did he get smarter, or did opportunities dry up?

With someone like Wiseman.. the jury's still out. Is he a smart player thats just overwhelmed at the speed of the game? Nervous? Or is the kind of person who will decide what he's gonna do before he gets the ball, and just hope it works? If he is that type of player, and can put up decent enough numbers while doing it (11/6 as a rookie, for example), he'll never have a shortage of teams trying to bring him in just to see if they can convince him to put it all together. But will it ever help a team? Probably not

Mobley gets the game.. he's gonna be a great player for CLE. He'll likely be their best player in a year or two, if not sooner.

[azwfan]

Evan Mobley is the best rookie big I’ve seen since Duncan. Extraordinarily talented, smart, and aware for a rookie. The kid has been here before.

[Jester_]

I'm on record here pumping up Mobley, Barnes & Duarte in the draft. Right now I'm like and1gs in 2008 when Jennings dropped 56 in like game 3.

[Quazza]

Giddey may turn out OK, I think he will, but I still wouldnt take him in the top 10. Nor would I take Mitchell, who's done nothing on offense except against us. Nor would I take Duarte with either pick, as he doesnt play defense and is just given an extreme green light on a perpetually "reloading" team that doesnt have a ton of options

Murphy looks fine but he definitely looks to have a ceiling, meaning he's a lot closer to full potential than someone like Giddey

Not really sure why any of that would be damning

I know you hated him through the draft but this seems a weird take. Who are the 10 rookies that look better ?


Also have heard from a very reliable contact we had told him we'd take him at 7 and that's why OKC took him "early "

[FNQ]

Giddey may turn out OK, I think he will, but I still wouldnt take him in the top 10. Nor would I take Mitchell, who's done nothing on offense except against us. Nor would I take Duarte with either pick, as he doesnt play defense and is just given an extreme green light on a perpetually "reloading" team that doesnt have a ton of options

Murphy looks fine but he definitely looks to have a ceiling, meaning he's a lot closer to full potential than someone like Giddey

Not really sure why any of that would be damning

I know you hated him through the draft but this seems a weird take. Who are the 10 rookies that look better ?


Also have heard from a very reliable contact we had told him we'd take him at 7 and that's why OKC took him "early "

Most rookies aren't playing, he looks better by default

He's still a very bad defender and a questionable shooter. Both of those things greatly limit what you can be on this team. He's still going to have a hell of a time finishing unless he gets really strong, but if he does, can his already limited quickness still be effective?

I dont know who you know, but thats the 3rd time I've heard that exact same thing with a different name, none of which were Kuminga (Moody, Bouknight)

Also the reasoning makes no sense, OKC didnt have a 2nd pick in the 1st. They took him because they wanted him, because they saw how good their team was when run by an actual PG instead of WB

[Quazza]

Giddey may turn out OK, I think he will, but I still wouldnt take him in the top 10. Nor would I take Mitchell, who's done nothing on offense except against us. Nor would I take Duarte with either pick, as he doesnt play defense and is just given an extreme green light on a perpetually "reloading" team that doesnt have a ton of options

Murphy looks fine but he definitely looks to have a ceiling, meaning he's a lot closer to full potential than someone like Giddey

Not really sure why any of that would be damning

I know you hated him through the draft but this seems a weird take. Who are the 10 rookies that look better ?


Also have heard from a very reliable contact we had told him we'd take him at 7 and that's why OKC took him "early "

Most rookies aren't playing, he looks better by default

He's still a very bad defender and a questionable shooter. Both of those things greatly limit what you can be on this team. He's still going to have a hell of a time finishing unless he gets really strong, but if he does, can his already limited quickness still be effective?

I dont know who you know, but thats the 3rd time I've heard that exact same thing with a different name, none of which were Kuminga (Moody, Bouknight)

Also the reasoning makes no sense, OKC didnt have a 2nd pick in the 1st. They took him because they wanted him, because they saw how good their team was when run by an actual PG instead of WB

Yes they did. They took Sengun

(The Giddey info came from his Dad )

[FNQ]

I know you hated him through the draft but this seems a weird take. Who are the 10 rookies that look better ?


Also have heard from a very reliable contact we had told him we'd take him at 7 and that's why OKC took him "early "

Most rookies aren't playing, he looks better by default

He's still a very bad defender and a questionable shooter. Both of those things greatly limit what you can be on this team. He's still going to have a hell of a time finishing unless he gets really strong, but if he does, can his already limited quickness still be effective?

I dont know who you know, but thats the 3rd time I've heard that exact same thing with a different name, none of which were Kuminga (Moody, Bouknight)

Also the reasoning makes no sense, OKC didnt have a 2nd pick in the 1st. They took him because they wanted him, because they saw how good their team was when run by an actual PG instead of WB

Yes they did. They took Sengun

(The Giddey info came from his Dad )

That actually makes sense, but the whole promise thing is long since dead. Its used more as a weapon of information. And if Giddey's dad is telling people, then it shows exactly how that info as a weapon works. Tell the Thunder he has another lotto promise, and they make the move. Warriors get one of 3-4 people they promised to take at 7 - no idea if they promised Kuminga but at this point, maybe him, Wagner, Mitchell.. **** find one person who we didnt want to take at 7

Rockets traded for the pick, which is usually what happens when a deal has been made in advance. Though it could absolutely be because they decided to take Giddey 6th after thinking he could be there at 16, but I think by the time the draft rolled around and Giddey was invited, the writing was on the wall

[tal57]

The lakers losing to OKC after being up 26 is hilarious

Yeh, and what the efing punk Westbrick is.
Like I have said, trading for him will go down as one of the worst trades this summer. Think about it, bringing in the NBA cancer and totally undressing the entire team in the process. Hey LeBrick, the superstars usually make very bad GMs Fire yourself as soon as possible.

Lakers "superstars" and the number of teams they've been on:
Dwight Howard - 9
Russell Westbrook - 4
Rajon Rondo - 9
Carmelo Anthony - 6
LeBron James - 4

Have there ever been so many "star" players who have changed teams so much?

I was specifically reffering to LeBrick. Well, we can't deny he is the superstar, no matter how many teams he plays (technically 3, twice with the same team). He moves from team to team like a locust, searching for a title. He desperately wants 6 to at least match Jordan, and must have 5 to match Kobe. Also he was de facto GM of Cleveland the second time around, and now the Lakers.
Speaking of Jordan, he also made a lousy GM in Washington and so far not a hot commodity running Charlotte. Them I specifically refer to as lousy team builders.

[whatisacenter]

if anybody needs a pick-me-up go over to the twolves board and read tonight's game thread loss and all the dumping on dLo. lol

[oaktownwarriors87]

How the new rules and ball may be impacting the game:

-Lowest FTA to FGA ration in NBA/BAA history
-Lowest 3% Since 1993/94
-4th lowest offensive rebounds percentage of all time

Honestly, the lack of offensive rebounding, foul calls, and the drop in shooting may be to Curry and the Warriors benefit.