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Wiggins and Warriors - get on the record.

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Will the Warriors be a success with Wiggins next year (WCF or Chip)

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Post#21 » by DAWill1128 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 6:58 am

Warriorfan wrote:Warriors still need 2 wing protectors and another rim protector to make it to Conf Finals


That's why I am disappointed they didn't get other supporting pieces to fill the bench. Getting them to include Beasley and his restricted rights would have been nice since he is a competitive young wing who is good on D. Hernangomez included as a stretch forward would have been nice.
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Post#22 » by Zvaart » Fri Feb 7, 2020 7:11 am

i'm trying to stay optimistic, and say that we can make at least WCF, if steph and klay come back healthy and we can get some decent center and bench guys.
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Post#23 » by superunknown » Fri Feb 7, 2020 10:21 am

injuries can happen even to other teams.
next season is unpredictable for every team.
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Post#24 » by mplsfonz23 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:23 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:Warriors still need 2 wing protectors and another rim protector to make it to Conf Finals


That's why I am disappointed they didn't get other supporting pieces to fill the bench. Getting them to include Beasley and his restricted rights would have been nice since he is a competitive young wing who is good on D. Hernangomez included as a stretch forward would have been nice.


What makes you think the Wolves would give up all of that for Russell?
He isn't really an "all-star." Be happy with the pick. That was the best offer you were going to get. Don't get greedy.
BTW, don't send Wiggins to shoot free throws with the game on the line.
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Post#25 » by giberish » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:28 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:Warriors still need 2 wing protectors and another rim protector to make it to Conf Finals


That's why I am disappointed they didn't get other supporting pieces to fill the bench. Getting them to include Beasley and his restricted rights would have been nice since he is a competitive young wing who is good on D. Hernangomez included as a stretch forward would have been nice.


Beasley's a shooter/scorer who's bad at defense.

Just keeping Spellman would have been useful but apparently getting out of the luxury tax was more important.
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Post#26 » by Mylie10 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 4:52 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:Warriors still need 2 wing protectors and another rim protector to make it to Conf Finals


That's why I am disappointed they didn't get other supporting pieces to fill the bench. Getting them to include Beasley and his restricted rights would have been nice since he is a competitive young wing who is good on D. Hernangomez included as a stretch forward would have been nice.


They still have the TPE, MLE, and the Draft pick to find and fill some of what you are saying. also vet min. if needed.
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Post#27 » by CS707 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 5:27 pm

Answering the question depends on so much more than Wiggins being slightly more effective than Barnes.
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Post#28 » by donkeylips » Fri Feb 7, 2020 5:32 pm

If everyone is healthy I can see WCF.
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Post#29 » by a8bil » Fri Feb 7, 2020 5:38 pm

WCF or Finals is such a difficult standard with LAC, LAL, and other western conference teams all of whom have gotten significantly stronger. Even if the Ws retained Durant, I'm not sure WCF or Finals was in the cards, given the loss of Iggy and depth.

That said, I am intrigued by their moves. DLo has not proven he can lead winning basketball, despite his ability to occasionally put up stats. So, I'm not worried about losing that asset, or any of the other guys, none of whom showed they were more than a 8-10 guy on the bench. Even if the sole reason for some of these moves is to avoid a repeater tax, I'm okay with it, if the long term plans involve going into the luxury tax to go for another Chip.

It's a big contract for Wiggins, but has AW shown the league everything he can offer? I don't know, but I do know his role here will be very different than what was asked of him in Minn. If Klay comes back in form, and Curry's back, AW is the third option, which is very different than being #1 or 2. He could flourish offensively. He needs to show he is coachable and can develop solid team defense attributes. If not, his contract can be moved with the draft assets GSW has been accumulating.

The draft is the wild card. Who knows what we get out of this year's draft, or the next. But I like the chances that Minn gives us a 4-10 pick. Nothing is a sure thing in the draft, but drafting that high definitely increases the odds of finding a valuable contributor.
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Post#30 » by FNQ » Fri Feb 7, 2020 7:30 pm

Yes.

Curry-Klay-Wiggins-Draymond-Looney

with EP, Poole, Bowman, Smailagic, Lee

And a top 5 draft pick?

I like our chances, health permitting
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Post#31 » by Flash Falcon X » Fri Feb 7, 2020 7:44 pm

I voted yes.

Seems like people forgot that Steph and Klay are on this team. Seems like people forgot that Draymond is at his best when Steph and Klay are healthy.

Wiggins sucked in Minnesota, but can succeed in Golden State because he no longer has the pressure of being a first option scorer. More spacing for Wiggins with Steph and Klay. Wiggins' athleticism will shine more because he can slash to the rim with the spacing and either score, or pass to an open man (fits in with Kerr's motion offense.)

Once Wiggins has a few good games going with Steph, Klay, Draymond, his confidence could skyrocket--he's only 24 and his potential has been revitalized with this new situation whereas it was pretty much dead in Minnesota.

Wiggins in the SF means Klay gets back to SG. Better defensive situation than when we had D-Lo.

Warriors most likely will get a top 5 pick in the lottery. Could easily flip that for more depth, or if they get a #1 pick they'll have a new starting center in James Wiseman.

Steph Curry will return to being in the MVP conversation now that KD and D-Lo are gone. He'll have the ultimate green light again, first time since 2016, because he won't have to limit himself for a KD anymore. He won't have to worry about a new transition period with a new team because Klay and Draymond are playing the same roles and Wiggins' expectation is a 3rd option scorer (whereas Steph was in a weird situation trying to let KD be a 1A/1B option scorer.)

Moreover with Steph, he's well rested now, which will be scary for the rest of the league. He's had almost this entire season off with his hand injury. And he'll have a longer offseason this year compared to last couple of years since he won't be in the Playoffs. Same thing with Klay getting rest as well. Draymond will benefit with the offseason rest, too.

Our young guys like Pashcall and Poole and Chriss will only benefit with the return of Steph and Klay. Young guys will also be more experienced with Kerr's offense, which helps reduce "transition period" of getting Steph and Klay back with these new young guys.
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Post#32 » by GS Warriors 1 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 8:05 pm

I think it's possible, but it will be the most difficult task of this whole era IMO.
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Post#33 » by HiRez » Fri Feb 7, 2020 8:14 pm

I think this poll is premature but right now it's a pretty confident "no" from me, if I have to go one way or another. You need to repost this next October. Our pick this year being #1 or #4 for example could make a huge difference, as will offseason trades and acquisitions of course. We don't know what Klay will look like when he comes back, big question marks around Looney's health. Is Draymond still the guy who can turn it up when it matters, or is he on a slow decline where he'll never recover? Plus who knows what Wiggins is playing with this team (a wide range of results IMO). Just too many variables that can change right now.
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Post#34 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 8:16 pm

Unlike Burks and Russell, Wiggins gives us something we didn't already have: a long, athletic wing that can score and matchup with other wings.

Hopefully playing with Curry and Thompson can take his game to another level. That was never going to happen the Russell.

With Wiggins we have hope, and what will likely be the 10th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft.

And like Russell, he can be used as trade bait if there is a disgruntled star.

I'm more worried about the bench and the PF and C positions than Wiggins. I'd like to move Draymond for some youth. He doesn't match up well against Davis, LeBron, Leonard, George, Gobert, Gianni's, Sakam etc. He doesn't have the size or athleticism and we don't have a 30 year old Andrew Bogut or Andre Iguodala to cover those guys for him.

Teams also have Draymond figured out on the offensive end.
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Post#35 » by Phase 3 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 8:34 pm

This will sound like I’m avoiding the question but I need to see what the roster looks like heading into next season.

As of right now, my answer would be no.

If they can upgrade the starting center position and add a couple solid veteran role players off the bench, then my answer might be yes.

For example...if they get lucky in the draft lottery and get a top 1-2 pick, that would totally change my outlook. They could draft a guy like Wiseman or use that pick in a trade if a star becomes disgruntled. Hello Embiid :)

Another question mark is what Curry/Klay/Dray will look like next season. Will Klay look like his old self coming off the ACL? There’s just a lot of unknowns right now.
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Post#36 » by DaHef » Fri Feb 7, 2020 9:06 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Without an aircraft carrier big, or defensive genius big like Bogut, I don't see anything close to a title.

We need a legit defensive stud.

A monster in the midway for sure.
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Post#37 » by Onus » Fri Feb 7, 2020 9:09 pm

Watching the rockets last night we need some wing defenders. If your big can't guard 1v1 in space they're not going to be able to play. They were getting so many wide open 3s. We''ll need another legit defender who can guard a ton of space and hit a 3. I like Paul Reed, Isaac Okoro type of player. Not sure they'll be ready for a wcf run but we're another wing player away. Someone that can replace Iguodala's role.
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Post#38 » by TB » Fri Feb 7, 2020 9:10 pm

As everything currently stands, its an easy NO for me. Too many question marks around age, health, depth, direction of the league, potential moves, etc.

That being said, if we have a good offseason in terms of draft/free agency/trades, and the big 3 stay healthy all year... they can definitely compete for a title. I just think alot has to go right for that to happen.

So today the answer is NO. By opening day I hope its a YES.
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Post#39 » by DaHef » Fri Feb 7, 2020 9:16 pm

Upperclass wrote:Perfect get and the picks are just icing. Toscano Anderson replaces Iggy

I'll admit I haven't seen any Santa Cruz games this year, but really? Toscano Anderson? Enlighten me or say you're kidding.
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Post#40 » by TinoDubs » Fri Feb 7, 2020 9:23 pm

A thing about Wiggings is his contract. If he's getting 20M or under, then we would feel much better. Now, hope he'll learn a few things with defense, and understand his role

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