Trade Oubre PRONTO.

[Coxy]

Oubre ($14m exp) / Poole ($2m for 3 yrs) / 2 x 2nds for Terrance Ross ($13.5 for 3 yrs)

[Flash Falcon X]

Only positive about Oubre is that he’s helping Steph’s MVP run because people will be saying “Steph carrying that Warriors team with possibly the worst starter in the league in Oubre” all season long.

[clyde21]

Just play him off the bench. Less pressure. Plays against bench players. Rebuild his value. There will be more space too for him as him and draymond together doesn't work on offense right now.

him and Dray should never be on the court together unless it's last shot defensive possession...earth to Kerr

[Coxy]

Oubre ($14m exp) / Poole ($2m for 3 yrs) for Dieng ($17m exp)

[clyde21]

He is playing like the worst offensive player in the league right now. No gm in the right mind would want him. You have to give up wiseman or a 1st for getting rid of him at least

No we don't. He's an expiring.

yea no GM would give up a (protected) first to trade for an expiring Oubre

oh wait

[Coxy]

Oubre ($14m exp) / Poole ($2m for 3 yrs) for Rudy Gay ($14.5m exp)

[killmongrel]

He is playing like the worst offensive player in the league right now. No gm in the right mind would want him. You have to give up wiseman or a 1st for getting rid of him at least

No we don't. He's an expiring.

yea no GM would give up a (protected) first to trade for an expiring Oubre

oh wait

After how Oubre played last year, I had no problem with Lacob pulling the trigger on him. Fanbase would have crucified Lacob and crew had they cheapened out with Klay out for the year. Still early so this might all be moot. But regardless, we don't have to give up anything significant.

[Coxy]

Oubre ($14m exp) for Dennis Smith Jnr ($5.6m exp)

I like this one a lot. The Knicks have cap space, they can see if Oubre can give them something in a push for the playoffs this season. Smith Jnr doesn't play for them, he could challenge Lolamaker for backup PG duties. The Knicks have cap space to absorb.

[Old_Blue]

Once Oubre was acquired, I read a bunch of baloney both here and elsewhere about how good Oubre was. I never bought it. And, I certainly couldn't understand taking a giant financial hit for this guy. But, most of all, I thought it was really unfair to Lee and Paschall not to give them first crack at filling in for Klay's lost minutes. The Oubre acquisition wasn't just a dumb financial move. It was also a breach of loyalty to guys who'd worked their butts off the season prior under extremely difficult circumstances. Both Lee and Paschall are playing so much better than Oubre. Neither guy's place on the team should be questioned.

[killmongrel]

Once Oubre was acquired, I read a bunch of baloney both here and elsewhere about how good Oubre was. I never bought it. And, I certainly couldn't understand taking a giant financial hit for this guy. But, most of all, I thought it was really unfair to Lee and Paschall not to give them first crack at filling in for Klay's lost minutes. The Oubre acquisition wasn't just a dumb financial move. It was also a breach of loyalty to guys who'd worked their butts off the season prior under extremely difficult circumstances. Both Lee and Paschall are playing so much better than Oubre. Neither guy's place on the team should be questioned.

So here is how I see it. Whether you believe he was really good or not, there was at least some evidence to go by that he was serviceable. He was the best available option in the off season. If there were better realistic options, I'd love to hear it. But even if he didn't work, all it really cost was money out of Lacob's wallet considering it would mean we'd be too bad to lose our pick. Also, that salary slot is still alive and can be used later to make a move. So I am not as down as everybody else on the Oubre move. He still has time to prove himself this year also.

[FNQ]

Oubre ($14m exp) for Dennis Smith Jnr ($5.6m exp)

I like this one a lot. The Knicks have cap space, they can see if Oubre can give them something in a push for the playoffs this season. Smith Jnr doesn't play for them, he could challenge Lolamaker for backup PG duties. The Knicks have cap space to absorb.

I like the idea, but I'd be trying to get the Frenchise if they were willing. He's not part of their regular rotation (I dont think), and has an insane wingspan. He's the kind of defender I love off the bench

Plus might be a sneaky 3pt threat. Past 3 seasons when wide open from 3:

2019: 38%
2018: 32%
2017: 34%

Try and make him a 3&D PG playing with Wiggins running the 2nd unit.. I'd be interested

[killmongrel]

So can the guys here who are smarter with the payroll answer this question, is there any way for Lacob to trade Oubre in a way where he avoids paying the tax for him?

[FNQ]

So can the guys here who are smarter with the payroll answer this question, is there any way for Lacob to trade Oubre in a way where he avoids paying the tax for him?

My understanding is that, if we trade him right now for pure capspace, we dont pay the tax on him at all.

Which is why teams are not gonna be nice about it. That luxury tax goes towards paying player bennies and I can't imagine the other owners like Joe LightYears Lacob, so the only way we're trading Oubre is if someone actually wants him.

And before you say its impossible, just remember, we traded DLo on a max contract and got a lottery pick in return. WE BELIEVE that there's a team poorly run enough to make it happen

[clyde21]

Once Oubre was acquired, I read a bunch of baloney both here and elsewhere about how good Oubre was. I never bought it. And, I certainly couldn't understand taking a giant financial hit for this guy. But, most of all, I thought it was really unfair to Lee and Paschall not to give them first crack at filling in for Klay's lost minutes. The Oubre acquisition wasn't just a dumb financial move. It was also a breach of loyalty to guys who'd worked their butts off the season prior under extremely difficult circumstances. Both Lee and Paschall are playing so much better than Oubre. Neither guy's place on the team should be questioned.

So here is how I see it. Whether you believe he was really good or not, there was at least some evidence to go by that he was serviceable. He was the best available option in the off season. If there were better realistic options, I'd love to hear it. But even if he didn't work, all it really cost was money out of Lacob's wallet considering it would mean we'd be too bad to lose our pick. Also, that salary slot is still alive and can be used later to make a move. So I am not as down as everybody else on the Oubre move. He still has time to prove himself this year also.

Oubre is a terrible fit in this offense (i'm putting some blame on Kerr here for refusing to deviate from his system, but still)...Myers doesn't seem to understand the types of players that work/don't work in this system...that's the problem here...so yea, Oubre was "serviceable" at one point, but at no point in his career has he ever showed to propensity to be able to play in a system like this...in fact the opposite...the fact that he can't even set a functional screen says it all, let alone a terrible BBIQ Oubre has always been known for...he's a one-read player and you're putting him in a multi-read scheme and it's a disaster waiting to happen

if we lose a 1st because of this transaction (and in a strong draft) i'll be pissed af.

[clyde21]

So can the guys here who are smarter with the payroll answer this question, is there any way for Lacob to trade Oubre in a way where he avoids paying the tax for him?

My understanding is that, if we trade him right now for pure capspace, we dont pay the tax on him at all.

Which is why teams are not gonna be nice about it. That luxury tax goes towards paying player bennies and I can't imagine the other owners like Joe LightYears Lacob, so the only way we're trading Oubre is if someone actually wants him.

And before you say its impossible, just remember, we traded DLo on a max contract and got a lottery pick in return. WE BELIEVE that there's a team poorly run enough to make it happen

and we got lucky with that one because of the Towns-Dlo relationship

[chef_martin]

Oubre/Smiley/Tor 2022 2nd/Dubs 2027 2nd/Min 2021 2nd (if we are a top 10 team in the league, otherwise Dubs 2022 2nd) for Evan Fournier.

Fultz and Isaac have torn ACLs, this is a lost season for the Magic. They need to tank. Oubre can be their tank commander. Fournier is the best approximation of Klay in the league. He's solid as a 3rd option and can defend at a solid level. BUT most importantly HE CAN SHOOOOOOOOOT and he's a smart player.

[FNQ]

So can the guys here who are smarter with the payroll answer this question, is there any way for Lacob to trade Oubre in a way where he avoids paying the tax for him?

My understanding is that, if we trade him right now for pure capspace, we dont pay the tax on him at all.

Which is why teams are not gonna be nice about it. That luxury tax goes towards paying player bennies and I can't imagine the other owners like Joe LightYears Lacob, so the only way we're trading Oubre is if someone actually wants him.

And before you say its impossible, just remember, we traded DLo on a max contract and got a lottery pick in return. WE BELIEVE that there's a team poorly run enough to make it happen

and we got lucky with that one because of the Towns-Dlo relationship

Yup..ok new plan. let's not sell Oubre as a basketball player. Hire some instagram influencers to doll him up real nice, send his headshots to 29 teams, and trade him to a team that has bad attendance, throw him on a few billboards around town.. profit

Seriously not sure what kind of team would take him. Bad teams might be willing, but not cheaply. And good teams probably wont either. There's not an obvious fit anywhere. We'll most likely need Kerr to find a way to make him useful. Kerr's pretty decent at that (Wiggins, Paschall) so we'll see what happens. But I'm not seeing any GMs who are on the chopping block right now who may be desperate enough to try it

[killmongrel]

Once Oubre was acquired, I read a bunch of baloney both here and elsewhere about how good Oubre was. I never bought it. And, I certainly couldn't understand taking a giant financial hit for this guy. But, most of all, I thought it was really unfair to Lee and Paschall not to give them first crack at filling in for Klay's lost minutes. The Oubre acquisition wasn't just a dumb financial move. It was also a breach of loyalty to guys who'd worked their butts off the season prior under extremely difficult circumstances. Both Lee and Paschall are playing so much better than Oubre. Neither guy's place on the team should be questioned.

So here is how I see it. Whether you believe he was really good or not, there was at least some evidence to go by that he was serviceable. He was the best available option in the off season. If there were better realistic options, I'd love to hear it. But even if he didn't work, all it really cost was money out of Lacob's wallet considering it would mean we'd be too bad to lose our pick. Also, that salary slot is still alive and can be used later to make a move. So I am not as down as everybody else on the Oubre move. He still has time to prove himself this year also.

Oubre is a terrible fit in this offense (i'm putting some blame on Kerr here for refusing to deviate from his system, but still)...Myers doesn't seem to understand the types of players that work/don't work in this system...that's the problem here...so yea, Oubre was "serviceable" at one point, but at no point in his career has he ever showed to propensity to be able to play in a system like this...in fact the opposite...the fact that he can't even set a functional screen says it all, let alone a terrible BBIQ Oubre has always been known for...he's a one-read player and you're putting him in a multi-read scheme and it's a disaster waiting to happen

if we lose a 1st because of this transaction (and in a strong draft) i'll be pissed af.

Depends on what you mean if we lose a first. Are we trading a 1st to get rid of him. Because I'll say this right now, Lacob and crew would rather keep him and eat the cost then do that. Again, if there was a better player available to use that TPE on I'd like to hear it. The issue here is, we have no idea who really was available. My no. 1 choice was Joe Ingles. But I doubt that was on the table. When Klay was out of for the year, we knew we needed a wing/third option. Oubre just hasn't been fulfilling that role. But at the time, and in some ways still, agreed with the move. We have to wait and see how slow of a learner Oubre is and just hope he eventually adjusts.

[Coxy]

Oubre ($14m exp) for Dennis Smith Jnr ($5.6m exp)

I like this one a lot. The Knicks have cap space, they can see if Oubre can give them something in a push for the playoffs this season. Smith Jnr doesn't play for them, he could challenge Lolamaker for backup PG duties. The Knicks have cap space to absorb.

I like the idea, but I'd be trying to get the Frenchise if they were willing. He's not part of their regular rotation (I dont think), and has an insane wingspan. He's the kind of defender I love off the bench

Plus might be a sneaky 3pt threat. Past 3 seasons when wide open from 3:

2019: 38%
2018: 32%
2017: 34%

Try and make him a 3&D PG playing with Wiggins running the 2nd unit.. I'd be interested

I doubt we could get Ntilikina. Knicks fans still rate him. It is the Knicks though, so make the call I say.

[killmongrel]

So can the guys here who are smarter with the payroll answer this question, is there any way for Lacob to trade Oubre in a way where he avoids paying the tax for him?

My understanding is that, if we trade him right now for pure capspace, we dont pay the tax on him at all.

Which is why teams are not gonna be nice about it. That luxury tax goes towards paying player bennies and I can't imagine the other owners like Joe LightYears Lacob, so the only way we're trading Oubre is if someone actually wants him.

And before you say its impossible, just remember, we traded DLo on a max contract and got a lottery pick in return. WE BELIEVE that there's a team poorly run enough to make it happen

Thanks.