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Re: How many All-Stars for Warriors this year? 

Post#21 » by wco81 » Sun Jan 2, 2022 9:04 pm

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wco81 wrote:Rather just see Wiggins go, since he's never been.

Curry and Dray should rest up, maybe Curry get through the protocol to get it over with. I suppose though he's going to want to do the 3-point shooting contest at least.

But do defensive specialists make it or players with high scoring averages?


That's a weird take. Protocol isn't something everyone has to go through and get it over with. You go into protocol if you test positive for covid. Let's hope Curry never tests positive.


Some believe it's inevitable that everyone will get infected. Especially pro athletes who have to travel all the time and play in front of thousands.

I mean some teams have had almost their entire rosters infected. It would be great if it never happened but NBA players don't get to shelter and minimize their potential exposure. They can't exactly work from home.

I'd be very nervous if the Warriors go into the playoffs without Curry or Klay or some other key players infected, unless they're able to get second boosters in late April or something.
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Post#22 » by SpreeS » Mon Jan 3, 2022 5:37 am

GunnerWRX wrote:Defensive specialist just means limited offensively.

Wiggins plays 2 ways. He is the 2nd offensive option on the team with the best record. He also defends the opponents’ best wings and guards.

Hard to see Bridges being selected over Wiggins if the coaches make the selection.

If Silver selects the replacement players, also hard to see a lesser team getting 3 ASs when the Warriors have beaten the Suns and Jazz.

Some fans still think Wiggins is still just a salary match for a trade, after the superb 2-way play he has done for giving us the best record, it’s so weird.


Exactly. How many players give you elite defence and 20pts on .59 TS (6% above league avg)?
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Post#23 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Jan 3, 2022 6:43 am

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GunnerWRX wrote:Defensive specialist just means limited offensively.

Wiggins plays 2 ways. He is the 2nd offensive option on the team with the best record. He also defends the opponents’ best wings and guards.

Hard to see Bridges being selected over Wiggins if the coaches make the selection.

If Silver selects the replacement players, also hard to see a lesser team getting 3 ASs when the Warriors have beaten the Suns and Jazz.

Some fans still think Wiggins is still just a salary match for a trade, after the superb 2-way play he has done for giving us the best record, it’s so weird.


Exactly. How many players give you elite defence and 20pts on .59 TS (6% above league avg)?


Wiggs still carries that reputation of bust or disappointment. 2 years of good play might not be enough.
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Post#24 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Jan 3, 2022 7:05 pm

wco81 wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
wco81 wrote:Rather just see Wiggins go, since he's never been.

Curry and Dray should rest up, maybe Curry get through the protocol to get it over with. I suppose though he's going to want to do the 3-point shooting contest at least.

But do defensive specialists make it or players with high scoring averages?


That's a weird take. Protocol isn't something everyone has to go through and get it over with. You go into protocol if you test positive for covid. Let's hope Curry never tests positive.


Some believe it's inevitable that everyone will get infected. Especially pro athletes who have to travel all the time and play in front of thousands.

I mean some teams have had almost their entire rosters infected. It would be great if it never happened but NBA players don't get to shelter and minimize their potential exposure. They can't exactly work from home.

I'd be very nervous if the Warriors go into the playoffs without Curry or Klay or some other key players infected, unless they're able to get second boosters in late April or something.


Re-infection is a thing. Just because one catches covid doesnt mean they cant catch it again.
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Re: How many All-Stars for Warriors this year? 

Post#25 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Jan 3, 2022 7:15 pm

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GunnerWRX wrote:Defensive specialist just means limited offensively.

Wiggins plays 2 ways. He is the 2nd offensive option on the team with the best record. He also defends the opponents’ best wings and guards.

Hard to see Bridges being selected over Wiggins if the coaches make the selection.

If Silver selects the replacement players, also hard to see a lesser team getting 3 ASs when the Warriors have beaten the Suns and Jazz.

Some fans still think Wiggins is still just a salary match for a trade, after the superb 2-way play he has done for giving us the best record, it’s so weird.


Exactly. How many players give you elite defence and 20pts on .59 TS (6% above league avg)?


Looking at the west, the only forwards I see that I can see over Wiggins/Draymond in the ASG is AD and PG. And even then those guys will have missed considerable time. Ingram 100% should not make it over Wiggs, as he is worse on both ends imo. KP might get some consideration. Not sure if Luka is classified as a forward but he probably gets in. There's a decent chance we could see 3 warriors at the ASG.
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Post#26 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:12 pm

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wco81 wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
That's a weird take. Protocol isn't something everyone has to go through and get it over with. You go into protocol if you test positive for covid. Let's hope Curry never tests positive.


Some believe it's inevitable that everyone will get infected. Especially pro athletes who have to travel all the time and play in front of thousands.

I mean some teams have had almost their entire rosters infected. It would be great if it never happened but NBA players don't get to shelter and minimize their potential exposure. They can't exactly work from home.

I'd be very nervous if the Warriors go into the playoffs without Curry or Klay or some other key players infected, unless they're able to get second boosters in late April or something.


Re-infection is a thing. Just because one catches covid doesnt mean they cant catch it again.


Has there been a recorded case of Omicron re-infecting someone who had Omicron?
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Post#27 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:37 pm

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ShootersShoot wrote:
wco81 wrote:
Some believe it's inevitable that everyone will get infected. Especially pro athletes who have to travel all the time and play in front of thousands.

I mean some teams have had almost their entire rosters infected. It would be great if it never happened but NBA players don't get to shelter and minimize their potential exposure. They can't exactly work from home.

I'd be very nervous if the Warriors go into the playoffs without Curry or Klay or some other key players infected, unless they're able to get second boosters in late April or something.


Re-infection is a thing. Just because one catches covid doesnt mean they cant catch it again.


Has there been a recorded case of Omicron re-infecting someone who had Omicron?


There have been documented cases of people being re-infected by covid, including catching omicron after previously catching a different strain. Omicron hasn't been around long enough to definitively say one can't be re-infected by that same strain either if that's what you are getting at. Also, other variants can emerge as well. Unless its proven one cant get re-infected I would personally just hope steph is up to date with his vaccinations and taking proper precautions rather than having him get infected to get it out of the way. That is very obviously not how this virus works and to assume it does is just bad faith and quite frankly irresponsible imo.
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Post#28 » by wco81 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 10:39 pm

Case doesn’t look good for Wiggins. There are players like KAT and SGA.
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Post#29 » by and1GS » Mon Jan 3, 2022 11:06 pm

I don't think SGA has much of a chance. His shooting numbers are waaaay down and the Thunder stink.
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Post#30 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 11:17 pm

ShootersShoot wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
ShootersShoot wrote:
Re-infection is a thing. Just because one catches covid doesnt mean they cant catch it again.


Has there been a recorded case of Omicron re-infecting someone who had Omicron?


There have been documented cases of people being re-infected by covid, including catching omicron after previously catching a different strain. Omicron hasn't been around long enough to definitively say one can't be re-infected by that same strain either if that's what you are getting at. Also, other variants can emerge as well. Unless its proven one cant get re-infected I would personally just hope steph is up to date with his vaccinations and taking proper precautions rather than having him get infected to get it out of the way. That is very obviously not how this virus works and to assume it does is just bad faith and quite frankly irresponsible imo.


Are you under the impression that I was assuming anything by asking a question?
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Post#31 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Jan 3, 2022 11:25 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
ShootersShoot wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Has there been a recorded case of Omicron re-infecting someone who had Omicron?


There have been documented cases of people being re-infected by covid, including catching omicron after previously catching a different strain. Omicron hasn't been around long enough to definitively say one can't be re-infected by that same strain either if that's what you are getting at. Also, other variants can emerge as well. Unless its proven one cant get re-infected I would personally just hope steph is up to date with his vaccinations and taking proper precautions rather than having him get infected to get it out of the way. That is very obviously not how this virus works and to assume it does is just bad faith and quite frankly irresponsible imo.


Are you under the impression that I was assuming anything by asking a question?


I was referring to the guy that stated he would rather have steph catch covid now instead of later which is probably one of the most illogical ways of looking at it. Even if there are no recorded cases of re-infection regarding only omicron, which was a weird way to frame the question as there are other existing strains and there can be other strains of covid yet to emerge, is there evidence that a person cannot catch it twice? People have been re-infected with covid even if its not specifically catching omicron twice. That information alone would lead me to at least make a reasonable guess that having someone catch covid, regardless of strain, is not exactly going to prevent them from catching it again.

Let's say there arent currently any documented cases of a person catching omicron twice. Then what? Would you say it is safe/better to let steph get infected now? Would you still rather have him err on the side of caution regardless?
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Post#32 » by shza » Mon Jan 3, 2022 11:35 pm

and1GS wrote:I don't think SGA has much of a chance. His shooting numbers are waaaay down and the Thunder stink.


Agree SGA won’t make it, but KAT definitely will ahead of Wiggins. I think the FC (starters and reserves) are most likely: Jokic, LeBron, Draymond, PG13, KAT, Gobert. Pretty hard to make a case for Wiggins against any of those guys unless you’re really going to penalize KAT for being with a crap organization. (I have nevertheless put in some homer votes for Wigs over LeBron — with Jokic and Draymond in the other two slots.)
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Post#33 » by GunnerWRX » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:13 am

SGA has 0% chance just like Monta never got serious consideration. SGA and OKC will grunt and complain but semi-Stars on crappy teams have never been rewarded with a NBA AS spot since forever.

The exception is you are like Zion/AD level on a losing team, which SGA is not.
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Post#34 » by GunnerWRX » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:28 am

Jokic
LeBron
AD
Luka
Steph

g Booker
g CP3
f Draymond
f Gobert
f PG13/KAT/Wiggins
wc Ja
wc Mitchell

To me, the other starting guard, 2 WC. and 2 guard spots are locked in by Booker/CP3/Ja/Mitchell/Luka.

Draymond and Gobert are also a lock as well.

This makes 1 final F spot available for PG13/KAT/Wiggins, which the coaches will decide.

I would say PG13 and KAT are more deserving than Wiggins, but Wiggins are clearly ahead of the others like Ingram/Mikal/Ayton etc.

If there are injury replacements, Wiggins should have a good chance to get selected.

On a side note, Dame's play doesn't deserve to be an AS this season, but if the coaches don't pick him, and an injury replacement is needed, and Silver doesn't select Dame, that will be the nail in the coffin for Dame staying in Portland I believe.

Big decision for Silver if a replacement is needed.
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Post#35 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:53 am

ShootersShoot wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
ShootersShoot wrote:
There have been documented cases of people being re-infected by covid, including catching omicron after previously catching a different strain. Omicron hasn't been around long enough to definitively say one can't be re-infected by that same strain either if that's what you are getting at. Also, other variants can emerge as well. Unless its proven one cant get re-infected I would personally just hope steph is up to date with his vaccinations and taking proper precautions rather than having him get infected to get it out of the way. That is very obviously not how this virus works and to assume it does is just bad faith and quite frankly irresponsible imo.


Are you under the impression that I was assuming anything by asking a question?


I was referring to the guy that stated he would rather have steph catch covid now instead of later which is probably one of the most illogical ways of looking at it. Even if there are no recorded cases of re-infection regarding only omicron, which was a weird way to frame the question as there are other existing strains and there can be other strains of covid yet to emerge, is there evidence that a person cannot catch it twice? People have been re-infected with covid even if its not specifically catching omicron twice. That information alone would lead me to at least make a reasonable guess that having someone catch covid, regardless of strain, is not exactly going to prevent them from catching it again.

Let's say there arent currently any documented cases of a person catching omicron twice. Then what? Would you say it is safe/better to let steph get infected now? Would you still rather have him err on the side of caution regardless?


If you were replying to another user you should probably reply to the other user.

I assume Curry will be as safe as he can reasonably be.
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Post#36 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:55 am

shza wrote:
and1GS wrote:I don't think SGA has much of a chance. His shooting numbers are waaaay down and the Thunder stink.


Agree SGA won’t make it, but KAT definitely will ahead of Wiggins. I think the FC (starters and reserves) are most likely: Jokic, LeBron, Draymond, PG13, KAT, Gobert. Pretty hard to make a case for Wiggins against any of those guys unless you’re really going to penalize KAT for being with a crap organization. (I have nevertheless put in some homer votes for Wigs over LeBron — with Jokic and Draymond in the other two slots.)


PG13 may miss out due to injury. I wonder how many players will miss the ASG after being named this year ... could be a significant factor in Wiggins making it.
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Post#37 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:56 am

GunnerWRX wrote:Jokic
LeBron
AD
Luka
Steph

g Booker
g CP3
f Draymond
f Gobert
f PG13/KAT/Wiggins
wc Ja
wc Mitchell

To me, the other starting guard, 2 WC. and 2 guard spots are locked in by Booker/CP3/Ja/Mitchell/Luka.

Draymond and Gobert are also a lock as well.

This makes 1 final F spot available for PG13/KAT/Wiggins, which the coaches will decide.

I would say PG13 and KAT are more deserving than Wiggins, but Wiggins are clearly ahead of the others like Ingram/Mikal/Ayton etc.

If there are injury replacements, Wiggins should have a good chance to get selected.

On a side note, Dame's play doesn't deserve to be an AS this season, but if the coaches don't pick him, and an injury replacement is needed, and Silver doesn't select Dame, that will be the nail in the coffin for Dame staying in Portland I believe.

Big decision for Silver if a replacement is needed.


AD may make it because Lakers, but don't think he'll "earn" it.
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Post#38 » by ShootersShoot » Tue Jan 4, 2022 11:16 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
ShootersShoot wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Are you under the impression that I was assuming anything by asking a question?


I was referring to the guy that stated he would rather have steph catch covid now instead of later which is probably one of the most illogical ways of looking at it. Even if there are no recorded cases of re-infection regarding only omicron, which was a weird way to frame the question as there are other existing strains and there can be other strains of covid yet to emerge, is there evidence that a person cannot catch it twice? People have been re-infected with covid even if its not specifically catching omicron twice. That information alone would lead me to at least make a reasonable guess that having someone catch covid, regardless of strain, is not exactly going to prevent them from catching it again.

Let's say there arent currently any documented cases of a person catching omicron twice. Then what? Would you say it is safe/better to let steph get infected now? Would you still rather have him err on the side of caution regardless?


If you were replying to another user you should probably reply to the other user.

I assume Curry will be as safe as he can reasonably be.


You literally replied in the same convo chain. I replied to his initial statement and brought up reinfection. Then you asked your question. Not my responsibility to keep you up to date on what was being discussed when you replied to the thread and the original comment was one response ago. If it was not obvious I was referring to him while responding to you then my apologies.
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Post#40 » by and1GS » Thu Jan 6, 2022 6:39 pm

Holy **** Wiggins fourth in frontcourt voting!? I know fan vote has been nerfed but WOW. I'm surprised people realize how good he's been.
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