Is it time for Curry to ask for a trade?

[GswStorm3]

According to some, it's jk that should request a trade because he's better than steph...

Who?

I feel like i'm one of JK's biggest supporters here and have never seen anyone remotely suggest that.

On the other hand, you crack on JK every chance you get....like you just did in a thread about Curry.

Neither have I.

[KevinMcreynolds]

joe lacob is the luckiest mf in the history of sports....he won a lottery and thinks he earned the money because he is good at this business. he will get the ugly truth when Curry retires..actually if he is smart with his money he should sell his stake now and take the money and run.

He has his faults but he’s been willing to spend obscene amounts of money to help this club win over the years, so he’s a pretty good owner to have on our side.

[floppymoose]

It would certainly simplify things if Curry was traded. But I doubt it happens. I'd rather see a come to jesus moment where Curry and the FO both agree that a rebuild is needed, and Curry decides he is happy mentoring the youth in his final years in the league.

[HiRez]

According to some, it's jk that should request a trade because he's better than steph...

Who?

I feel like i'm one of JK's biggest supporters here and have never seen anyone remotely suggest that.

On the other hand, you crack on JK every chance you get....like you just did in a thread about Curry.

Neither have I.

Not to mention "Hate to say, but jk isnt the second coming of giannis." or putting him "on a hof pedestal". If anyone did say that, I'd agree with you, but I don't recall anyone saying anything of the sort. Mostly people, me included, are just saying yes his game is a hot mess at times, but he's a top 1% athlete, barely 22 years old, who didn't play any college ball (and might have actually been hurt more than helped by his Ignite experience), got less runway than his peers in the NBA, and got thrown into Kerr's strict system with at best erratic minutes/games/roles. Who the hell is saying he's a Hall Of Famer? The point is no one can say for sure what he is yet. If you don't think he's made progress in the last 3 years despite all the jerking around and injuries, I don't think you're really looking.

On the other hand, I think it's fair to criticize him for turning down an offer supposedly for $150M over 5 years. Whether he ends up being worth more than that is unknown, but that's on him if he's not because I did think that was a fair offer, all things considered.

[Jester_]

joe lacob is the luckiest mf in the history of sports....he won a lottery and thinks he earned the money because he is good at this business. he will get the ugly truth when Curry retires..actually if he is smart with his money he should sell his stake now and take the money and run.

Lacob plus some of the dumb mfs on this forum

[TB]

There are 15 games before the deadline, so if we can find a way to go 9-6 or 8-7 we should be keeping pace somewhat with the top 6 and able to assess what moves might be available. It's a bloodbath in the NBA as expected... so if every superstar flirting with 500 asked for a trade the whole league would just be swapping all-stars outside of a few teams.

Enjoy the carnage and let's grind out some wins this month to hopefully set up a playoff run for Steph where he is wearing the only jersey he ever has.

[Jax_23]

According to some, it's jk that should request a trade because he's better than steph...

Not just here, but other places as well. Jk is put on a hof pedestal and any criticism on him is taken as a fabricated crack. I'm not sure he even goes 7th in a redraft. That's not hate, it's fact.

Haven't seen anyone put him on a hof pedestal. They just think he's decent and has a high ceiling. I'm a JK fan, but even I know it's 100% possible he doesn't reach his potential.

[Romulus]

At this point, I think anyone looking objectively at this would conclude it's in the best interest of Curry and the organization that he play elsewhere. Lacob wants to keep Kuminga & Podz and build around them. That's his choice and trading Curry would unquestionably land draft picks and talent. He'd be doing a solid for Steph and he'd ultimately help his own team down the road.

Would he catch some heat? I honestly don't think he would IF Curry, Kerr, and Lacob held a press conference and simply announced that all were in agreement this was best for everyone.

Do it. This is painful to watch. Very painful in fact.

[Jax_23]

joe lacob is the luckiest mf in the history of sports....he won a lottery and thinks he earned the money because he is good at this business. he will get the ugly truth when Curry retires..actually if he is smart with his money he should sell his stake now and take the money and run.

The acquisition of the Warriors by Joe Lacob was a pivotal moment in NBA history. Joe Lacob changed a SH*T CULTURE and a team that was the laughing stock of the league for 15+ years and turned them into one of the best dynasties ever. He hired Jerry West, Bob Meyers, Mark Jackson, Steve Kerr, etc, who drafted Curry, Draymond, Klay, and brought in Bogut, Iggy, KD, etc. He stood at center court while his azz was getting booed by 15,000 fans (for trading Montaaaa ) and proclaimed we're winning the championship (something that hadn't been done since the 70's). That took balls, that took courage, that took a dude who knows how to build excellence. Don't understand why anyone would call Lacob "lucky." Damn, where's the gratitude? I'll always have an appreciation and ton of respect for Lacob for how he single-handedly changed the course of this franchise by buying the team. You're not gonna always hit home runs, but at least - unlike the previous owner - I know that Lacob's intentions are in the right place... doing whatever it takes to WIN.

Also, 6 other teams deliberately passed on picking Curry. I guess that was just "luck."

Wtf are you smoking lmao

[Jax_23]

We know this FO is incapable of making any trades before the deadline. We also know this team isn't good enough, period.

So what's the point of Curry staying here?

Is it time for Steph to finally go to the FO and ask for a trade?

Dumbleavy is too stupid and scared to understand when to seize the moment. I'm saying this now -- he BETTER trade for an all-star or big difference maker or Curry and/or Dray may very well request a trade sooner than later. This team isn't going anywhere and we have enough pieces for a trade. Bob Meyers would've been signaling by now that the Warriors need to bring in a star. The only thing I agree with MDJ doing is dropkicking Poole outta the Bay. So far, MDJ as a GM is as mediocre and complacent as he was as an NBA player. I'll change my mind if he's able to bring in someone like Jimmy Butler or an upper-caliber player THIS SEASON before the trade deadline, and before it's too late to convince Curry and Draymond to stay and watch their NBA golden years fade into irrelevancy.

[Jester_]

joe lacob is the luckiest mf in the history of sports....he won a lottery and thinks he earned the money because he is good at this business. he will get the ugly truth when Curry retires..actually if he is smart with his money he should sell his stake now and take the money and run.

The acquisition of the Warriors by Joe Lacob was a pivotal moment in NBA history. Joe Lacob changed a SH*T CULTURE and a team that was the laughing stock of the league for 15+ years and turned them into one of the best dynasties ever. He hired Jerry West, Bob Meyers, Mark Jackson, Steve Kerr, etc, who drafted Curry, Draymond, Klay, and brought in Bogut, Iggy, KD, etc. He stood at center court while his azz was getting booed by 15,000 fans (for trading Montaaaa ) and proclaimed we're winning the championship (something that hadn't been done since the 70's). That took balls, that took courage, that took a dude who knows how to build excellence. Don't understand why anyone would call Lacob "lucky." Damn, where's the gratitude? I'll always have an appreciation and ton of respect for Lacob for how he single-handedly changed the course of this franchise by buying the team. You're not gonna always hit home runs, but at least - unlike the previous owner - I know that Lacob's intentions are in the right place... doing whatever it takes to WIN.

Also, 6 other teams deliberately passed on picking Curry. I guess that was just "luck."

Wtf are you smoking lmao

curry was drafted well before lacob took over you dork

[cpower]

joe lacob is the luckiest mf in the history of sports....he won a lottery and thinks he earned the money because he is good at this business. he will get the ugly truth when Curry retires..actually if he is smart with his money he should sell his stake now and take the money and run.

The acquisition of the Warriors by Joe Lacob was a pivotal moment in NBA history. Joe Lacob changed a SH*T CULTURE and a team that was the laughing stock of the league for 15+ years and turned them into one of the best dynasties ever. He hired Jerry West, Bob Meyers, Mark Jackson, Steve Kerr, etc, who drafted Curry, Draymond, Klay, and brought in Bogut, Iggy, KD, etc. He stood at center court while his azz was getting booed by 15,000 fans (for trading Montaaaa ) and proclaimed we're winning the championship (something that hadn't been done since the 70's). That took balls, that took courage, that took a dude who knows how to build excellence. Don't understand why anyone would call Lacob "lucky." Damn, where's the gratitude? I'll always have an appreciation and ton of respect for Lacob for how he single-handedly changed the course of this franchise by buying the team. You're not gonna always hit home runs, but at least - unlike the previous owner - I know that Lacob's intentions are in the right place... doing whatever it takes to WIN.

Also, 6 other teams deliberately passed on picking Curry. I guess that was just "luck."

Wtf are you smoking lmao

it's all about that one player. Curry who is a top 10 player of all time is responsible for 80% of all our success. You can only build a winning team with a guy like Curry, MJ or Duncan. With a generational player, I would say most of the team will end up winning multiple championships, with KG being the only exception , well its the Wolves.....As you can see, a good FO or coach only matters that much when comes to winning because 1 guy means so much on the court and NBA players are generally very talented so it's not that hard to find good pieces to pair with your generational player. It's actually quite easy to prove this, lets see where this team lands when Curry retires, if Lacob is that great we should see a few more rings in the next decade right?

[Onus]

joe lacob is the luckiest mf in the history of sports....he won a lottery and thinks he earned the money because he is good at this business. he will get the ugly truth when Curry retires..actually if he is smart with his money he should sell his stake now and take the money and run.

The acquisition of the Warriors by Joe Lacob was a pivotal moment in NBA history. Joe Lacob changed a SH*T CULTURE and a team that was the laughing stock of the league for 15+ years and turned them into one of the best dynasties ever. He hired Jerry West, Bob Meyers, Mark Jackson, Steve Kerr, etc, who drafted Curry, Draymond, Klay, and brought in Bogut, Iggy, KD, etc. He stood at center court while his azz was getting booed by 15,000 fans (for trading Montaaaa ) and proclaimed we're winning the championship (something that hadn't been done since the 70's). That took balls, that took courage, that took a dude who knows how to build excellence. Don't understand why anyone would call Lacob "lucky." Damn, where's the gratitude? I'll always have an appreciation and ton of respect for Lacob for how he single-handedly changed the course of this franchise by buying the team. You're not gonna always hit home runs, but at least - unlike the previous owner - I know that Lacob's intentions are in the right place... doing whatever it takes to WIN.

Also, 6 other teams deliberately passed on picking Curry. I guess that was just "luck."

Wtf are you smoking lmao

Single handedly is a wild take. Joe gets credit for spending money. But he also gets blame for this 2 timeline mess that we’re in. Joe will most likely be the next reinsdorf. Great with Steph and then irrelevant once Steph is gone just like mj.

[CDM_Stats]

It did take big balls to trade the confusingly popular Monta Ellis for an injured center.. he's not done well for the 2nd timeline, which is not post-Steph, but post-peak-Steph. But the 1st timeline, be it him or Kerr or Myers or whoever people want to credit? Was done nearly flawlessly. Created an expectation of them knowing exactly what they are doing. But the reality is that they're probably above average, which is still good, but not the lightyears chest-thumping stuff they claimed. Keep in mind - someone, I think it was Kerr, said the Wiseman pick was partially made because they thought the window was closed. That admission really stuck with me... they didnt even know they had a contender a few years ago

[Onus]

. Keep in mind - someone, I think it was Kerr, said the Wiseman pick was partially made because they thought the window was closed. That admission really stuck with me... they didnt even know they had a contender a few years ago

This is the most frustrating part about this franchise. They gave up on Steph twice. I really don’t think they know what they have. They’re constantly downplaying Steph from the owner to the coach. And when he overcomes them they go right back to giving up on him.

[Jester_]

. Keep in mind - someone, I think it was Kerr, said the Wiseman pick was partially made because they thought the window was closed. That admission really stuck with me... they didnt even know they had a contender a few years ago

This is the most frustrating part about this franchise. They gave up on Steph twice. I really don’t think they know what they have. They’re constantly downplaying Steph from the owner to the coach. And when he overcomes them they go right back to giving up on him.

this is it right here. This has always been the case. reminds me of Klank calling KD the best player in the world

only one who knew what Stephs real value was is Iggy. And he’s said more than once the entire org ain’t ****

everything is Steph and always has been. we are in for a brutal post Steph era

[Romulus]

. Keep in mind - someone, I think it was Kerr, said the Wiseman pick was partially made because they thought the window was closed. That admission really stuck with me... they didnt even know they had a contender a few years ago

This is the most frustrating part about this franchise. They gave up on Steph twice. I really don’t think they know what they have. They’re constantly downplaying Steph from the owner to the coach. And when he overcomes them they go right back to giving up on him.

this is it right here. This has always been the case. reminds me of Klank calling KD the best player in the world

only one who knew what Stephs real value was is Iggy. And he’s said more than once the entire org ain’t ****

everything is Steph and always has been. we are in for a brutal post Steph era

I was reading Wikipedia's bio on Steph Curry. This line stood out to me:

"In 2012, Golden State included Curry in a trade offer to the Milwaukee Bucks for Andrew Bogut, which the Bucks rejected due to Curry's history with bad ankles. Ellis was traded instead."

Now, I know there has been some serious back-tracking from the FO about this, but I have seen this same reporting over the years by numerous sources (that Curry, not Ellis was the Warriors first choice to be traded). And yes, Lacob bought the team in 2010 and was very much the owner and decision maker then as he is now. Also, Lacob wanted to offer Curry less than the max after his MVP seasons but Bob Myers talked him out of the insult, since Curry had signed a very team friendly contract because of his ankle injuries.

I do agree that even now it seems pretty obvious that Lacob is very insecure about Curry getting so much credit for these titles. It actually seems very similar to what occurred with Michael Jordan and the Bulls' ownership. At the end, they wanted to move on, to show everyone what a great organization they were WITHOUT MJ. I think at this point Lacob feels the same way. He loves Kuminga and Podz (it's not an act) and would love to show the world that he's a basketball genius. But, he's also afraid (understandably) of the severe backlash he'd get if he traded Curry.

In order for this to work, and for everyone to save face, the act of trading Curry has to begin with Curry himself. Is Curry frustated right now? Very much. He's starting to hear criticism that is beginning to approach what Klay endured. He's hearing the whispers that he's done, washed. Obviously, he doesn't think that he is.

What happens? 50/50 (imo) that Curry asks for a trade at some point, perhaps after this season (assuming they once again do nothing on the trade front and don't make the playoffs). It's stirring. It's happening, it's just a matter when enough is enough.

Just my opinion, but I think Lacob would love to move on -- if he feels he can get away with it without damaging the team's reputation (and his own).

Do it. It's past time.

[watch1958]

It did take big balls to trade the confusingly popular Monta Ellis for an injured center.. he's not done well for the 2nd timeline, which is not post-Steph, but post-peak-Steph. But the 1st timeline, be it him or Kerr or Myers or whoever people want to credit? Was done nearly flawlessly. Created an expectation of them knowing exactly what they are doing. But the reality is that they're probably above average, which is still good, but not the lightyears chest-thumping stuff they claimed. Keep in mind - someone, I think it was Kerr, said the Wiseman pick was partially made because they thought the window was closed. That admission really stuck with me... they didnt even know they had a contender a few years ago

To me, the two timelines thing came up around the 2021 draft. Curry had just exploded at the end of the 2021 season so they had to think about whether to trade to get him support, or to pick to build for the future.

I’ve always thought the Klay Achilles injury, right at the time of the draft screwed them mentally. Whatever sensible thought they had went out the window. Replaced by “swing for the fences!”

Also always thought that was a dumb metaphor to use in basketball.

[Onus]

It did take big balls to trade the confusingly popular Monta Ellis for an injured center.. he's not done well for the 2nd timeline, which is not post-Steph, but post-peak-Steph. But the 1st timeline, be it him or Kerr or Myers or whoever people want to credit? Was done nearly flawlessly. Created an expectation of them knowing exactly what they are doing. But the reality is that they're probably above average, which is still good, but not the lightyears chest-thumping stuff they claimed. Keep in mind - someone, I think it was Kerr, said the Wiseman pick was partially made because they thought the window was closed. That admission really stuck with me... they didnt even know they had a contender a few years ago

To me, the two timelines thing came up around the 2021 draft. Curry had just exploded at the end of the 2021 season so they had to think about whether to trade to get him support, or to pick to build for the future.

I’ve always thought the Klay Achilles injury, right at the time of the draft screwed them mentally. Whatever sensible thought they had went out the window. Replaced by “swing for the fences!”

Also always thought that was a dumb metaphor to use in basketball.

They have yet to make any type of big trade for curry.

[Jax_23]

curry was drafted well before lacob took over you dork

Got my dates wrong but I wouldn't call one year "well after." Doesn't negate any of his other accomplishments.