Time to blow it up?

[GQ Hot Dog]

Not until Kuminga and Podz are back. I still consider us a playoff team when healthy until proven otherwise.

People don't realize how good Kuminga is and how much he affects winning. We're a dangerous team with his attacking the bucket. I appreciate Wiggins heroism trying to provide that with Kuminga out, but he's just not nearly as good.

[Twinkie defense]

Best case scenario is squeaking into the playoffs and experiencing an early exit. That may have been good enough for the 1990's Warriors but this Warriors team should have higher expectations. If there is no foreseeable path to a Championship over the next 3 years I think they should tear it down so they can start fresh.

[HiRez]

Best case scenario is squeaking into the playoffs and experiencing an early exit.

Then they better finish at least 6 seed because I have zero confidence this team can win a play-in game.

[floppymoose]

I think they will finish 11th or 12th in the west. Which is a huge change from where I was after the curry olympics and replacing Klay with Hield/Melton/SLowmo. Back then I thought they had a 50/50 chance at 50 wins.

[RUN-TJM]

I think they will finish 11th or 12th in the west. Which is a huge change from where I was after the curry olympics and replacing Klay with Hield/Melton/SLowmo. Back then I thought they had a 50/50 chance at 50 wins.

Melton blowing out his knee was the key to our decline. He ticked so many boxes for us on both sides. I wasn’t thrilled when I found out that Hield was coming over but was intrigued as to what Slowmo could do as a play making big. Both Hield and Slowmo have added very little after a positive start.

JK’s ankle injury hasn’t helped either. We are so one dimensional at the moment.

[cdubbz]

Not quite the same as the other time-to-trade threads, which seem to be about how GSW will be a juggernaut if they can just get Vucevic.

This is the blow it up thread.

The Warriors need to blow it up! Why it's time to trade Stephen Curry and Draymond Green

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-warriors-need-to-blow-it-up-why-its-time-to-trade-stephen-curry-and-draymond-green-183726649.html

There are a bunch of hypothetical blow-up trades in that article.

I've always liked listening to KOC, but he was annoying with his angle of trading Steph on his latest podcasts. Felt he never explored the other options and was pushing this idea. I get it's for content and he's zagging on this idea, but as a Warrior fan wasn't a fan of it.

[HiRez]

It sure looks like they're headed down the worst possible path, a sad, pathetic end to Curry's career with no competitive teams, and no additional young players or picks to build a future on, except for some mid-range picks for their treadmill tanking while the house slowly crumbles around them.

I know they have excuses: trades are hard, financial limitations, injuries/suspensions/absences, young guys weren't ready, whatever. But the bottom line is they've now squandered 3 good years of Curry and it sure looks like they're heading for a 4th next year because they are unwilling to make the tough decisions necessary. I think we can reasonably disagree about what decisions should be made, but they are paralyzed.

[DutchManDanFan]

The only way we can properly blow it up is to trade Steph for a gazillion 1sts.

If you trade Steph for meaningfull picks then Steph has to go to a bad team. You don't want to do that, I think. You want to give him a chance to compete. Or you keep him.
And you won't get picks for Dray.

So again the idea I posted in the Q Post thread:
Steph + Drey for Dame + Middleton + Portis. Without emotional obligations you can trade these players to any team you want. You should be able to get some good picks for them.

[Jester_]

The only way we can properly blow it up is to trade Steph for a gazillion 1sts.

If you trade Steph for meaningfull picks then Steph has to go to a bad team. You don't want to do that, I think. You want to give him a chance to compete. Or you keep him.
And you won't get picks for Dray.

So again the idea I posted in the Q Post thread:
Steph + Drey for Dame + Middleton + Portis. Without emotional obligations you can trade these players to any team you want. You should be able to get some good picks for them.

What's the point of this trade... how is Dame a better trade asset than Steph?

And why would Bucks even do this

[DutchManDanFan]

The only way we can properly blow it up is to trade Steph for a gazillion 1sts.

If you trade Steph for meaningfull picks then Steph has to go to a bad team. You don't want to do that, I think. You want to give him a chance to compete. Or you keep him.
And you won't get picks for Dray.

So again the idea I posted in the Q Post thread:
Steph + Drey for Dame + Middleton + Portis. Without emotional obligations you can trade these players to any team you want. You should be able to get some good picks for them.

What's the point of this trade... how is Dame a better trade asset than Steph?

And why would Bucks even do this

The point is you can trade Dame to any team. You can't do that with Steph, if you want to do him a favour (trade him to a contender).
The Bucks do this if they don't trust Khris' health in May. And because Dray is a significant upgrade for Portis on D. And ofcourse Steph > Dame.

[Jester_]

If you trade Steph for meaningfull picks then Steph has to go to a bad team. You don't want to do that, I think. You want to give him a chance to compete. Or you keep him.
And you won't get picks for Dray.

So again the idea I posted in the Q Post thread:
Steph + Drey for Dame + Middleton + Portis. Without emotional obligations you can trade these players to any team you want. You should be able to get some good picks for them.

What's the point of this trade... how is Dame a better trade asset than Steph?

And why would Bucks even do this

The point is you can trade Dame to any team. You can't do that with Steph, if you want to do him a favour (trade him to a contender).
The Bucks do this if they don't trust Khris' health in May. And because Dray is a significant upgrade for Portis on D. And ofcourse Steph > Dame.

Hmmm true

[marthafokker]

This the Kobe saga over again. Future HoF doesn't have the skills like the past. Want his salary and have no one to build around him. Can't even tank properly, just a fringe team until he is way off the books, and then a few more years of sucking to get valuable draft picks, if lucky.

[watch1958]

If you trade Steph for meaningfull picks then Steph has to go to a bad team. You don't want to do that, I think. You want to give him a chance to compete. Or you keep him.
And you won't get picks for Dray.

So again the idea I posted in the Q Post thread:
Steph + Drey for Dame + Middleton + Portis. Without emotional obligations you can trade these players to any team you want. You should be able to get some good picks for them.

Since Giannis is off the table, the only guy I want is Rollins.

What's the point of this trade... how is Dame a better trade asset than Steph?

And why would Bucks even do this

The point is you can trade Dame to any team. You can't do that with Steph, if you want to do him a favour (trade him to a contender).
The Bucks do this if they don't trust Khris' health in May. And because Dray is a significant upgrade for Portis on D. And ofcourse Steph > Dame.

[Onus]

https://youtu.be/AegApU5_vgI?si=2w55g37SNDUFL3G2&t=686

2 wins against okc
1 win against bos
2 wins hou
2 wins mem

7 wins against top 6 records in the nba
11 wins against top 10 in point differential which is the 3rd most in the league.

[floppymoose]

And yet they are a 500ish team and in danger of not even making the playin. If they do make it they are likely out without getting a series. Regular season wins are not the same as playoff wins. Don't get sucked in by this mediocre team.

[marthafokker]

Don't forget Dubbs also lost to some really bad teams too. Just a 500 team.

The last big trade the Dubbs really did was Wiggins. Durant doesn't count. He chose Dubbs, not a trade. So don't expect anything coming in. Best case, trading away a spare part away during the deadline.... like maybe Waters, as usual.

[Onus]

I think it shows that the ceiling is that we could contend while the floor is lottery bound. Quite a range of outcomes. But if we could find a consistent no 2 which buddy was fulfilling at the start of the season we’re actually pretty close to contending.

I don’t expect us to make a trade though because our front office is not into taking risks and refuse to trade curry, dray, jk, and bp. So I expect them to straddle the middle like they’ve done.

[KevinMcreynolds]

The best option to get some value in return is to package Wiggs and JK.

[Jester_]

https://youtu.be/AegApU5_vgI?si=2w55g37SNDUFL3G2&t=686

2 wins against okc
1 win against bos
2 wins hou
2 wins mem

7 wins against top 6 records in the nba
11 wins against top 10 in point differential which is the 3rd most in the league.

we saw what this team COULD be when Buddy was on fire to start the season

as usual, you give Steph a slightly above average supporting cast and he'll take us to the WCF at least

[whatisacenter]

The best option to get some value in return is to package Wiggs and JK.

Curious, what trade target you would go after?

The Warriors would be losing all their athleticism sending those two out and the team would be so slow and unathletic.