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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#21 » by powerball1373 » Thu May 8, 2025 6:17 am

Romulus wrote:Hope I'm wrong but I think they're done. Miracle win without Steph in Game 1 (because the Wolves were miserable). I just don't get why they don't simply say he's out for Game 2 and will evaluate day by day? How do they know he won't be ready for Game 3? Obviously won't be ready if they don't even look at him for a week.

Again, hope I'm wrong. And if they manage to just win one of the next three, they still have a shot. Let's hope Buddy never wakes up from this two game dream.


Everyone knows what a hamstring strain is, and that a week is the absolute best case scenario. No point playing the will-he or won't-he game. Now the guys know what the deal is and what they need to get done.

I would not count out Jimmy and Dray. Jimmy is only a couple seasons removed from dragging guys like Caleb Martin, Duncan Robinson, Gabe Vincent, and Max Strus to the NBA Finals. It's going to be tough, but they can win a game or two without Steph.
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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#22 » by superunknown » Thu May 8, 2025 7:20 am

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Romulus wrote:Hope I'm wrong but I think they're done. Miracle win without Steph in Game 1 (because the Wolves were miserable). I just don't get why they don't simply say he's out for Game 2 and will evaluate day by day? How do they know he won't be ready for Game 3? Obviously won't be ready if they don't even look at him for a week.

Again, hope I'm wrong. And if they manage to just win one of the next three, they still have a shot. Let's hope Buddy never wakes up from this two game dream.


Everyone knows what a hamstring strain is, and that a week is the absolute best case scenario. No point playing the will-he or won't-he game. Now the guys know what the deal is and what they need to get done.

I would not count out Jimmy and Dray. Jimmy is only a couple seasons removed from dragging guys like Caleb Martin, Duncan Robinson, Gabe Vincent, and Max Strus to the NBA Finals. It's going to be tough, but they can win a game or two without Steph.


although dubs supporting cast play better D, the issue is that those players right there, althought not better overall players, could hit the 3 ball well and torch the opponents from deep. def more consistently than what podz, moody, green, even buddy have shown so far.
ofc if buddy keeps his current shooting form and podz/moody/post start hitting 3s at a decent clip, then yes, jimmy can lead this roster to an upset. but they need to start hitting shots like martin, robinson, strus and vincent did, which ain't that easy.
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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#23 » by powerball1373 » Thu May 8, 2025 7:30 am

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powerball1373 wrote:
Romulus wrote:Hope I'm wrong but I think they're done. Miracle win without Steph in Game 1 (because the Wolves were miserable). I just don't get why they don't simply say he's out for Game 2 and will evaluate day by day? How do they know he won't be ready for Game 3? Obviously won't be ready if they don't even look at him for a week.

Again, hope I'm wrong. And if they manage to just win one of the next three, they still have a shot. Let's hope Buddy never wakes up from this two game dream.


Everyone knows what a hamstring strain is, and that a week is the absolute best case scenario. No point playing the will-he or won't-he game. Now the guys know what the deal is and what they need to get done.

I would not count out Jimmy and Dray. Jimmy is only a couple seasons removed from dragging guys like Caleb Martin, Duncan Robinson, Gabe Vincent, and Max Strus to the NBA Finals. It's going to be tough, but they can win a game or two without Steph.


although dubs supporting cast play better D, the issue is that those players right there, althought not better overall players, could hit the 3 ball well and torch the opponents from deep. def more consistently than what podz, moody, green, even buddy have shown so far.
ofc if buddy keeps his current shooting form and podz/moody/post start hitting 3s at a decent clip, then yes, jimmy can lead this roster to an upset. but they need to start hitting shots like martin, robinson, strus and vincent did, which ain't that easy.


Those were not shooting it well at all that season, they just kind of caught fire in the playoffs.

Martin 35.6% -> 42.3%
Vincent 33.4% -> 37.8%
Robinson 32.8 -> 44.2%

Point is, Jimmy was able to get them open looks and elevate their game. Let's see if he's able to do the same with Podz, Moody, etc, who pretty much all shot a better regular season % than the 3 guys listed above did in 22-23.
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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#24 » by HiRez » Thu May 8, 2025 9:14 am

powerball1373 wrote:Point is, Jimmy was able to get them open looks and elevate their game. Let's see if he's able to do the same with Podz, Moody, etc, who pretty much all shot a better regular season % than the 3 guys listed above did in 22-23.

Problem is Moody and Podz ARE getting open looks and just clanking them. Just hoping the slump ends like it did for Buddy.
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Post#25 » by superunknown » Thu May 8, 2025 9:50 am

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powerball1373 wrote:Point is, Jimmy was able to get them open looks and elevate their game. Let's see if he's able to do the same with Podz, Moody, etc, who pretty much all shot a better regular season % than the 3 guys listed above did in 22-23.

Problem is Moody and Podz ARE getting open looks and just clanking them. Just hoping the slump ends like it did for Buddy.


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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#26 » by statsman » Thu May 8, 2025 2:08 pm

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powerball1373 wrote:Point is, Jimmy was able to get them open looks and elevate their game. Let's see if he's able to do the same with Podz, Moody, etc, who pretty much all shot a better regular season % than the 3 guys listed above did in 22-23.

Problem is Moody and Podz ARE getting open looks and just clanking them. Just hoping the slump ends like it did for Buddy.

If Moody can hit his first 3 or two, he turns into a different player.
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Post#27 » by Impuniti » Thu May 8, 2025 3:40 pm

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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#28 » by wco81 » Thu May 8, 2025 4:47 pm

It will likely be more like at least 2 weeks, if not more.

Saying 1 week, be back by game 5 or 6 may be giving false hope.
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Post#29 » by HiRez » Thu May 8, 2025 5:00 pm

wco81 wrote:It will likely be more like at least 2 weeks, if not more.

Saying 1 week, be back by game 5 or 6 may be giving false hope.

They're saying game 5 as a possibility, but I think realistically he's back for game 6 at the earliest, that gives him 4 extra days to recover. Not a doctor but from what I've read hamstring strains are pretty susceptible to re-injury/aggravation if not fully rested.

So the Dubs need to find a way to win 1 of the next 4 games at a minimum, that gives them a 2-3 deficit with 2 games they have to win to close it out in 7. Not a great situation but there's a glimmer of hope. But for sure they need to have the mentality that they need to finish the Wolves off without Steph at all. It's a long shot but they have the 1 game advantage and a bunch of guys who we know have been underperforming. If Jimmy asserts himself and Hield is locked in again and Podz, Moses, Post, Kuminga start hitting shots, there are some difficult things for Minnesota to defend. A lot of "if"s but not impossible.

Minnesota was at their worst in game 1, everyone knows they aren't that bad. But...I'm not terrified of them either. That Houston series helped toughen up the Warriors on both ends, and mentally. If there's 1 team remaining in the playoffs I think the Warriors have an outside chance to beat without Steph, this is it.
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Post#30 » by Impuniti » Thu May 8, 2025 5:25 pm

wco81 wrote:It will likely be more like at least 2 weeks, if not more.

Saying 1 week, be back by game 5 or 6 may be giving false hope.

You don't know any of this, whatsoever.
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Post#31 » by AirP. » Thu May 8, 2025 6:19 pm

wco81 wrote:It will likely be more like at least 2 weeks, if not more.

Saying 1 week, be back by game 5 or 6 may be giving false hope.

A grade one with the best medical services at his disposal 24/7?

I think there is very little chance for Curry coming back game 5 even though it's 8 days since the injury but game 6 is 12 days since the injury.

Watching Curry move after the injury didn't seem too bad, it looked more like he was dealing with mostly pain tolerance and of course disappointment, meaning I think he could play through the pain if he had to in a few days but I think the fear of it getting reinjured or becoming worse is what the medical staff will be watching but I could see Curry demand to come back "early" if GS were to be down 1-3 in game 5. He'll have all summer to heal up if he were to make it worse and that might be worth the risk to him.

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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#33 » by Onus » Thu May 8, 2025 6:30 pm

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wco81 wrote:It will likely be more like at least 2 weeks, if not more.

Saying 1 week, be back by game 5 or 6 may be giving false hope.

A grade one with the best medical services at his disposal 24/7?

I think there is very little chance for Curry coming back game 5 even though it's 8 days since the injury but game 6 is 12 days since the injury.

Watching Curry move after the injury didn't seem too bad, it looked more like he was dealing with mostly pain tolerance and of course disappointment, meaning I think he could play through the pain if he had to in a few days but I think the fear of it getting reinjured or becoming worse is what the medical staff will be watching but I could see Curry demand to come back "early" if GS were to be down 1-3 in game 5. He'll have all summer to heal up if he were to make it worse and that might be worth the risk to him.

If Butler wants to protect Curry at all costs, Butler going into carry mode to allow Curry to rest would be the best way to protect him.

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Re: Shames: Curry Grade 1, will miss at least one week 

Post#34 » by AirP. » Thu May 8, 2025 6:34 pm

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wco81 wrote:It will likely be more like at least 2 weeks, if not more.

Saying 1 week, be back by game 5 or 6 may be giving false hope.

A grade one with the best medical services at his disposal 24/7?

I think there is very little chance for Curry coming back game 5 even though it's 8 days since the injury but game 6 is 12 days since the injury.

Watching Curry move after the injury didn't seem too bad, it looked more like he was dealing with mostly pain tolerance and of course disappointment, meaning I think he could play through the pain if he had to in a few days but I think the fear of it getting reinjured or becoming worse is what the medical staff will be watching but I could see Curry demand to come back "early" if GS were to be down 1-3 in game 5. He'll have all summer to heal up if he were to make it worse and that might be worth the risk to him.

If Butler wants to protect Curry at all costs, Butler going into carry mode to allow Curry to rest would be the best way to protect him.

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The problem it's not just a pain tolerance thing. It can lead to a more serious injury compensating.

Sure, but as of right now I think he had to, he could play on it, that doesn't mean he should since there are longer term risks at this time. I don't know how the odds drop of reinjuring it the closer it gets to being healed up 100%, but I doubt it's as high day 2 as it is day 4, 7 or even 10. If this were the regular season he'd be out a long time, probably longer then he needed to be, to be safe but if it's a win or go home situation, he may try to overrule the medical staff to play and then heal over the summer.

Butler probably shouldn't be playing still since his fall in game 2 of the 1st round but he is, Curry came back early from his contusion about 6 weeks ago, there's a risk some people are willing to take to succeed.

BTW, here's Curry saying he was going to come back (play with the pain) but with it being soft tissue and it could cause more issues he didn't. So, I still go with Curry willing to risk playing before the medical staff wants him too so obviously winning another game or even 2 would make it easier for Curry to just wait to come back. It seemed odd to see Curry jogging back to the locker room after the injury occurred once he got to the tunnel, seems like he was expecting to get back into the game.
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Post#35 » by powerball1373 » Thu May 8, 2025 8:18 pm

superunknown wrote:
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powerball1373 wrote:Point is, Jimmy was able to get them open looks and elevate their game. Let's see if he's able to do the same with Podz, Moody, etc, who pretty much all shot a better regular season % than the 3 guys listed above did in 22-23.

Problem is Moody and Podz ARE getting open looks and just clanking them. Just hoping the slump ends like it did for Buddy.


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Point was, again, that Jimmy has done it on his own with a bunch of scrubs. I'm saying to forget what's happened up until now, and let's see what happens going forward. Like those Heat players shooting poorly all season, then all of a sudden flipping a switch (oh yeah, coincidentally after Herro went down in the playoffs).
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Post#39 » by wco81 » Fri May 9, 2025 7:00 pm

Even if they can win one of the games, teams which have a 3-2 lead after 5 games in a 7-game series have an overwhelming probability of winning the series.

So even coming back 2-3, in some uncertain condition, is far from optimal.
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Post#40 » by statsman » Fri May 9, 2025 7:09 pm

wco81 wrote:Even if they can win one of the games, teams which have a 3-2 lead after 5 games in a 7-game series have an overwhelming probability of winning the series.

So even coming back 2-3, in some uncertain condition, is far from optimal.

Especially if Draymond ends up suspended for a game, which I fully expect if this series goes beyond 5 games.

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