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also its not a matter of passing and shooting...its a matter of winning. C.J. contributes to our victories.
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Hopper15 wrote:I think all of this is coming from Payton's camp.
I tend to agree... used to be the whole block knew what was going on before, I dont know how word always leaked... the MIL trade, the BOS signing, the Lakers... we were always in the loop. Now all we hear is crickets... I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'll be a CJ hater again... sorry again for those offended by the truth...
CJ's not a PG... never has been, never will be. He's got about the 5th or 6th best court vision on the team. He has proven time and again that the only assists he will get are garbage time assists and passes to wide open players for 3s...
At the end of the Bucks game, CJ the PG cracked me up... wanted to get the ball to Beli, drove weakside and tried to pass over the entire MIL defense... high schoolers get benched for that crap...
CJ was brought into score. Unfortunately he doesn't move without the ball well enough to be a legit factor, and he's not quick/good enough to draw fouls consistently either... while he has some potential in our offense, you wonder if we couldn't just pull another good shooter from anywhere and call them a PG too.
And dont even start with me on defense.... CJ's about as essential to our success as Pattycakes is.
CJ's not a PG... never has been, never will be. He's got about the 5th or 6th best court vision on the team. He has proven time and again that the only assists he will get are garbage time assists and passes to wide open players for 3s...
At the end of the Bucks game, CJ the PG cracked me up... wanted to get the ball to Beli, drove weakside and tried to pass over the entire MIL defense... high schoolers get benched for that crap...
CJ was brought into score. Unfortunately he doesn't move without the ball well enough to be a legit factor, and he's not quick/good enough to draw fouls consistently either... while he has some potential in our offense, you wonder if we couldn't just pull another good shooter from anywhere and call them a PG too.
And dont even start with me on defense.... CJ's about as essential to our success as Pattycakes is.
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Whatever happened to Aaron Miles? Dude wasn't that great, but at least he never played outside of his strengths and at least he could run the offense. Isn't that all we really need right now from a 3rd string PG along with decent enough D?
Edit: I always hate posting about this topic for fear of McDew showing up, because we said "backup PG" a few times. The guy is seriously like
Candyman
or BeatleJuice
incarnated into
RealGM poster form.
Edit: I always hate posting about this topic for fear of McDew showing up, because we said "backup PG" a few times. The guy is seriously like
Candyman
or BeatleJuice
incarnated into
RealGM poster form.

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Right now Stephen Jackson is our second best assist man and Monta (who's not really a point gets 3-5 a game). Even Belli would get more assists than CJ. To me what defines a point guards is his ability to not just pass to his teammates, but to get scores off those passes. Reggae is right, the way CJ's played, he's not really playing like a point guard which is why I'd prefer someone like GP over him. We've got shooters on this team, they're a dime a dozen. Basically we don't have a real point to back up Baron and although we're doing pretty good without one, I'd think we'd be a little bit better with one. Does he have the ability to play like a "true" point? Maybe so, but I haven't seen it thus far. He's got the speed and the quickness, and his handles seem ok, so I don't know why he isn't more adept at his passing skills. Some of you talk about Monta not making it because he's too small to make it 2 and not skilled enough at the point, then CJ might as well forget it pretty much.
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Really? What did he do? He was never really offensive, just really really annoying and unbelievably dense.
Not sure.
Floppy mentioned it in the Aruond the NBA thread a couple weeks ago, but no one seemed to know why. I didn't think he was that bad either but he probably posted on the wrong board a few too many times.
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I know that I wouldn't dream of posting on the Sac board, those F&^*ers are crazy sensitive. I'd guess Indiana is the other one, although I posted there a couple times over the summer. It actually had nothing to do with the trade, but the replies were ridiculously rude and unreasonable. I think it's calmed down over their some now, but I still won't post there.
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I like CJ, and he does SET UP players well. He does make that "extra pass" and understands getting spot up shooters square.
Though I haven't seen him deliver anything close to the hoop, that's fine. He's fast enough that Baron can guard the slow guy and do his thing.
CJ has one advantage over GP which is his shot. He's got a Kleenx Azibuke (whom I think will only get resigned for like 1 mill) stroke.
GP is dope. I think him defending a slower guy is fine, and it should be good with him there. He'll make the team even more competitive, make the youngin's work harder, and even jokingly stated prior here, make the bigs better.
Or at least their BBIQ in the sense as to where to cut.
Best GP quote? Someone after a game runs up to him with a gun and everyone is running out or something, then they ask him about it later like "why didn't you run?" He says "man I'm from East Oakland, it aint nothing new"
:LOL:
It was something along those lines (it's actually pretty terrible).
Though I haven't seen him deliver anything close to the hoop, that's fine. He's fast enough that Baron can guard the slow guy and do his thing.
CJ has one advantage over GP which is his shot. He's got a Kleenx Azibuke (whom I think will only get resigned for like 1 mill) stroke.
GP is dope. I think him defending a slower guy is fine, and it should be good with him there. He'll make the team even more competitive, make the youngin's work harder, and even jokingly stated prior here, make the bigs better.
Or at least their BBIQ in the sense as to where to cut.
Best GP quote? Someone after a game runs up to him with a gun and everyone is running out or something, then they ask him about it later like "why didn't you run?" He says "man I'm from East Oakland, it aint nothing new"
:LOL:
It was something along those lines (it's actually pretty terrible).
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I'd like a guy that can be backup 2-4 years for some continuity. BD could move on at the end of the season so I don't see GP as all that valuable to us.
If we are doing this "for Gary" sign him to 10 day contracts and do a nice promoted sendoff.
I see Lue, Stoudemire, Lowry, Aroyo, Blake, JJack, ...just so many players that could be a 2-3 year addition, ...yeah a couple are 1 year guys but sign & trades happen.
Who helps us most is the question here.
If we are doing this "for Gary" sign him to 10 day contracts and do a nice promoted sendoff.
I see Lue, Stoudemire, Lowry, Aroyo, Blake, JJack, ...just so many players that could be a 2-3 year addition, ...yeah a couple are 1 year guys but sign & trades happen.
Who helps us most is the question here.
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I'm thinking the trade exception might be very attractive to the clips.
They have Livingston coming back next year with Brand (unless he opts out).
They have Kaman. They have a nice young player in Thorton. Mobley will still be there, so the money might be something they'd like along with a pick.
Sam is the one PG out there that is rumored, affordable, and hits big time shots. He's still got enough left in the tank to make a great addition for a team making a run.
I'll sign off on the Payton addition after it's a for sure no with Sam.
They have Livingston coming back next year with Brand (unless he opts out).
They have Kaman. They have a nice young player in Thorton. Mobley will still be there, so the money might be something they'd like along with a pick.
Sam is the one PG out there that is rumored, affordable, and hits big time shots. He's still got enough left in the tank to make a great addition for a team making a run.
I'll sign off on the Payton addition after it's a for sure no with Sam.
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Is a pick worth a part-season rental? Does LA deal with the Warriors? Does Dun Sr. help Nellie? He makes $6.15 mil. Not sure how that would effect the cap this year. Also would Sam be a backup? He's planning on starting alongside Carmelo and AI next season.
edit: also I believe the Clips are (a little) under the luxury tax threshold, so it's not as important that they shed slary.
edit: also I believe the Clips are (a little) under the luxury tax threshold, so it's not as important that they shed slary.
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