2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

[Mylie10]

Jokic and Luka are tough. But the rest of them? Name some others then.

Few of them are great defenders because they simply lack the physical attributes like quickness.

Kirilenko

Tough Dragić. Also Deni is half Serbian from his dads side who played professional basketball

OK, so a couple more.

But out of all the international players who've come into the league, you're talking a total of 4?

I'm sure we could come up with more but overall it's a small percentage.

Ginobili, Gasol brothers, Bogut, Baynes, Steven Adams, Sarunas, Sabonis, etc

[Scoots1994]

Jokic and Luka are tough. But the rest of them? Name some others then.

Few of them are great defenders because they simply lack the physical attributes like quickness.

Kirilenko

Tough Dragić. Also Deni is half Serbian from his dads side who played professional basketball

OK, so a couple more.

But out of all the international players who've come into the league, you're talking a total of 4?

I'm sure we could come up with more but overall it's a small percentage.

You started with Euro players then included Manute and Mutombo ... so international players is what you meant.

Tim Duncan was pretty good as was Hakeem Olajuwon. Yao Ming was certainly a good defender if not as good as the other two.

[ShayDee]

Some might have seen me mention this dude before. I think if he has gotten stronger during this time and improved his ball handling and shooting, I wouldn't mind him being the back up PG, ahead of Poole and Bowman. With more strength he could maybe defend 1-4, but early in his carrier 1-3(smaller). He might be available as undrafted FA because he is projected around 40-undrafted in most mocks. We could maybe promise his back up PG minutes and guaranteed contract to go undrafted

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[shazam_guy]

- Has everybody given up on Poole? He was MUCH better in the latter part of the season. Stupid to put him in a box already, dumber still to use a high pick on a back up PG. Next year is NOT the only year we can compete, and JP was showing me things in late season. I've watched too many Warriors players get judged (wrongly) after a single season. Poole is capable of being a really good shooter, unlike Jacob Evans and Patrick McCaw who were never going to be more than fourth/fifth options.

- "Euro" or "International" doesn't mean much by itself. Plenty of excellent players outside the States who have been great in the NBA. That doesn't make a Deni a can't-miss, however. I worry about his speed and his shot, but I can see ways he might work well with GS.

- Still massively unimpressed by Ball as a high pick. After his own bad shooting and Lonzo's fair-to-middling showing in the Association despite similar skills, Melo's going to have to do something big to impress me and that hasn't happened yet. Wouldn't risk him for us, but he might be someone else's golden dream and get us something useful and a decent pick in exchange.

- I'm not sold on Wiseman, but comparing him to mostly useless offensive players like DeAndre or JaVale seems pretty picky, and if he was comparable to Kwame, Thabeet, or Milicic nobody would be talking about him as a poential #1 -- not these days. Those guys were all largely inert, bad footwork, slow, but they were drafted at a time when everybody thought, "You can't teach someone to be seven feet tall" without looking much at other aspects of their game. Whatever Wiseman's weaknesses are, that's not true of him.

[Mylie10]

We’re trying to win a Chip. Is Poole ready for Playoff basketball?

He might think he is, but Kerr might think differently. Lol

[whatisacenter]

There don't seem to be many Edwards fans here but if the Warriors keep the pick and he is available, I would take him. He is an elite athlete with a long wingspan, he has handles and he has good mechanics with his shot. His FG% is bad because he takes bad shots but his FT% is high and I would trust the teams staff to get the most out of him.

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[Coxy]

I'm really not sold on Edwards. He doesn't come accross as a really passionate guy to me, and answering these questions seems like a forced evaluation of himself. He see's himself as Bradley Beal, fine, I guess that's a good ladder to climb, good luck to him, but he could also end up DIon Waiters.

Give me Wiseman.

[Onus]

I do have a feeling that if the wolves don’t select Edwards we will most likely take him. He has all the tools but does he have that competitive fire to be the best? Is he willing to just settle to be in the nba? How has he never been on a winning team?

It’s scary to have a low motor player that you have to constantly tell them to attack and get better. We already have Wiggins who struggled with this in Minnesota, having another player with the same problem is tough.

[whatisacenter]

I'm really not sold on Edwards. He doesn't come accross as a really passionate guy to me, and answering these questions seems like a forced evaluation of himself. He see's himself as Bradley Beal, fine, I guess that's a good ladder to climb, good luck to him, but he could also end up DIon Waiters.

Give me Wiseman.

What if wiseman goes #1 and is off the board?

[ShayDee]

I'm really not sold on Edwards. He doesn't come accross as a really passionate guy to me, and answering these questions seems like a forced evaluation of himself. He see's himself as Bradley Beal, fine, I guess that's a good ladder to climb, good luck to him, but he could also end up DIon Waiters.

Give me Wiseman.

What if wiseman goes #1 and is off the board?

I applaud minny or whoever traded up for this cuz they figured out the BPA in this draft. We would just take Edwards and hope he has the motor to defend AD/Lebron next year

[Coxy]

I'm really not sold on Edwards. He doesn't come accross as a really passionate guy to me, and answering these questions seems like a forced evaluation of himself. He see's himself as Bradley Beal, fine, I guess that's a good ladder to climb, good luck to him, but he could also end up DIon Waiters.

Give me Wiseman.

What if wiseman goes #1 and is off the board?

I applaud minny or whoever traded up for this cuz they figured out the BPA in this draft. We would just take Edwards and hope he has the motor to defend AD/Lebron next year

I'd be on the phones and really trying to find out who has a hard on for Edwards. I'm thinking that Charlotte might want him, they need a guard, but they might be high on drugs and want Ball. The thought process is to actually draft Deni Avdija and nabbing a further asset back in the process.

[Little Digger]

obviously you guys didn’t watch Georgia much last season..

otherwise you’d know exactly who he is

By 28 he’ll be 313 lbs and starring in the Ukrainian pro league


But Yes ..he’s easily the most talented prospect in this 2020 draft..now all you have to do is teach him to actually care

I currently have Edwards at #9 on the BIG BOARD of Big Boards...even though this dude is a lazier version of Isiah Rider..long shot pick..

Drafting him 1 or 2 overall? ..95% chance 1 GM will be getting his a** fired

[whatisacenter]

obviously you guys didn’t watch Georgia much last season..

otherwise you’d know exactly who he is

By 28 he’ll be 313 lbs and starring in the Ukrainian pro league


But Yes ..he’s easily the most talented prospect in this 2020 draft..now all you have to do is teach him to actually care

I currently have Edwards at #9 on the BIG BOARD of Big Boards...long shot pick..

I watched a lot of his games at Georgia and remember one of his games that Joe Lacob attended that he played pretty poorly in which may turn the Warriors off from the start. Your line about him weighing over 300lbs is just silly. He looks like one of those guys who is a solid rock naturally. For me with all of the top prospects in this draft it comes down to actually being able to meet with them in person to get a feel for who has the hunger and who will be happy just to be drafted high.

[Little Digger]

So you get a feel for a players hunger by meeting with him?

What I love about basketball is what you do on the court tells all..

[Senchu]

Deni is riding that luka doncic hype train. I don't buy it. Suns, Kings and some commentators got it wrong with Luka because he was a euro and now they are overcompensating with Deni because he is a "euro" (i know he is from Israel).

I remember Evan Turner having that Brandon Roy hype and now it is happening with Deni.
I forgot almost about Jimmer being the next Curry.

[Little Digger]

Deni is riding that luka doncic hype train. I don't buy it. Suns, Kings and some commentators got it wrong with Luka because he was a euro and now they are overcompensating with Deni because he is a "euro" (i know he is from Israel).

I remember Evan Turner having that Brandon Roy hype and now it is happening with Deni.
I forgot almost about Jimmer being the next Curry.

All I care about is how guys play..getting caught up on the color of their skin or where they’re from is total horsesh*t..

[Onus]

obviously you guys didn’t watch Georgia much last season..

otherwise you’d know exactly who he is

By 28 he’ll be 313 lbs and starring in the Ukrainian pro league


But Yes ..he’s easily the most talented prospect in this 2020 draft..now all you have to do is teach him to actually care

I currently have Edwards at #9 on the BIG BOARD of Big Boards...even though this dude is a lazier version of Isiah Rider..long shot pick..

Drafting him 1 or 2 overall? ..95% chance 1 GM will be getting his a** fired

What if Edwards is like Simmons who wasn’t very good and lazy at LSU?

[whatisacenter]

So you get a feel for a players hunger by meeting with him?

What I love about basketball is what you do on the court tells all..

Yeah, I think getting a player in for a meeting and workout are helpful especially in a year when there is no clear top 1-2 players in the draft. He stayed home and played basketball for a football school and went up against a few top programs as the best player on a bad team. When you know you are going to school for a year while playing on a bad team before jumping to the NBA you just might not play every minute of every game with the energy and focus a fan might expect. I thought he showed some elite offensive skills while being the focus of the opposing teams defensive strategy.

[TB]

obviously you guys didn’t watch Georgia much last season..

otherwise you’d know exactly who he is

By 28 he’ll be 313 lbs and starring in the Ukrainian pro league


But Yes ..he’s easily the most talented prospect in this 2020 draft..now all you have to do is teach him to actually care

I currently have Edwards at #9 on the BIG BOARD of Big Boards...even though this dude is a lazier version of Isiah Rider..long shot pick..

Drafting him 1 or 2 overall? ..95% chance 1 GM will be getting his a** fired

What if Edwards is like Simmons who wasn’t very good and lazy at LSU?

Ben Simmons was so much better at LSU than Edwards was at Georgia. Do a player comp at Tankathon and the difference is that while Ben Simmons definitely coasted, he was still incredibly efficient and productive on both ends of the floor.

But I do get your general point of a player that was fairly bored and disinterested or discouraged in college that went to NBA and locked in.

I like Edwards, but he's playing a risky game... I keep using the Harden comparison because current Harden is who he plays like. Only he doesn't make shots or draw enough fouls. The difference is Harden didn't start playing that way until he could succeed doing it. In college Harden was a do-it-all efficient scorer/defender that let the game come to him. Same with in OKC. As his skills developed he became a 40 usage gunner. Edwards is skipping all the fundamentals and team play and going straight to being a gunner. Lets see if it works out.

[Onus]

obviously you guys didn’t watch Georgia much last season..

otherwise you’d know exactly who he is

By 28 he’ll be 313 lbs and starring in the Ukrainian pro league


But Yes ..he’s easily the most talented prospect in this 2020 draft..now all you have to do is teach him to actually care

I currently have Edwards at #9 on the BIG BOARD of Big Boards...even though this dude is a lazier version of Isiah Rider..long shot pick..

Drafting him 1 or 2 overall? ..95% chance 1 GM will be getting his a** fired

What if Edwards is like Simmons who wasn’t very good and lazy at LSU?

Ben Simmons was so much better at LSU than Edwards was at Georgia. Do a player comp at Tankathon and the difference is that while Ben Simmons definitely coasted, he was still incredibly efficient and productive on both ends of the floor.

But I do get your general point of a player that was fairly bored and disinterested or discouraged in college that went to NBA and locked in.

I like Edwards, but he's playing a risky game... I keep using the Harden comparison because current Harden is who he plays like. Only he doesn't make shots or draw enough fouls. The difference is Harden didn't start playing that way until he could succeed doing it. In college Harden was a do-it-all efficient scorer/defender that let the game come to him. Same with in OKC. As his skills developed he became a 40 usage gunner. Edwards is skipping all the fundamentals and team play and going straight to being a gunner. Lets see if it works out.

I mean I wouldn't pick him personally but I get his appeal and wouldn't be too mad if we do select him. There's 3 players I'm prepared for us to pick Wiseman, Deni, Edwards. If we select anyone other than those 3 without trading down I would be extremely shocked. Not my big board, just what I'm expecting.