Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards

[CDM_Stats]

Can he learn to switch and stay? Sure, the same way Lebron could become a 90% ft shooter. Is it likely? Probably not. People comparing him to looney, looney was playing the top of a 3-2 zone in college as a freshman and causing havoc. He’s always had great feet even though he moves like molasses.

Looney was not good at that in college mind you (and it really was a 2-1-2 as Looney would sink into the middle and pop out as necessary).. and it was mainly because he was being treated as a combo forward, leaning towards PF

I dont think TJD will ever get to Looney's level, or close to it, but can he tangibly improve his mobility as a 6'8 245 guy? I'd think so.. I honestly wouldnt want a single player over 240# unless they were over 7' tall

[Onus]

Can he learn to switch and stay? Sure, the same way Lebron could become a 90% ft shooter. Is it likely? Probably not. People comparing him to looney, looney was playing the top of a 3-2 zone in college as a freshman and causing havoc. He’s always had great feet even though he moves like molasses.

Looney was not good at that in college mind you (and it really was a 2-1-2 as Looney would sink into the middle and pop out as necessary).. and it was mainly because he was being treated as a combo forward, leaning towards PF

I dont think TJD will ever get to Looney's level, or close to it, but can he tangibly improve his mobility as a 6'8 245 guy? I'd think so.. I honestly wouldnt want a single player over 240# unless they were over 7' tall

I just think expecting anyone to be looney on switches isn’t going to be meet expectations.

Tjd does have heavy feet though, but we’ll see. Hell really need to be able to anticipate and read the offensive player.

[Coxy]

I am seeing a cross between 2 parts Chris Birman Anderson, 1 part Zach Randolph, 1 part his dad Dale Davis and 1 part Amare Stodamire.

You could have just said Jordan Bell. Much easier comp.

Not your finest moment here Evan. Bell could barely bounce a ball.

[Old_Blue]

I just think expecting anyone to be looney on switches isn’t going to be meet expectations.

Tjd does have heavy feet though, but we’ll see. Hell really need to be able to anticipate and read the offensive player.

Poor Trayce. He is getting the full Wiseman treatment that begins with hyping the big man to an unrealistic degree.

[EvanZ]

I am seeing a cross between 2 parts Chris Birman Anderson, 1 part Zach Randolph, 1 part his dad Dale Davis and 1 part Amare Stodamire.

You could have just said Jordan Bell. Much easier comp.

Not your finest moment here Evan. Bell could barely bounce a ball.

Uh, he actually could do it just as well as TJD. Neither of them should really be handling a ball much. I like TJD, but he pretty much has every weakness that Bell had, and is a worse athlete. I guess people didn’t watch much of Jordan Bell or TJD in college though. Similar prospects imo. Doesn’t mean TJD can’t be better, but I wouldn’t expect a world beater.


Of course it won’t stop anyone here from expecting exactly that even after repeatedly being disappointed by the Bells, Paschalls, etc of the world.

[michaelm]

I just think expecting anyone to be looney on switches isn’t going to be meet expectations.

Tjd does have heavy feet though, but we’ll see. Hell really need to be able to anticipate and read the offensive player.

Poor Trayce. He is getting the full Wiseman treatment that begins with hyping the big man to an unrealistic degree.

That is true. He doesn't need to be a franchise player though, just come off the bench and do things the team needs. Setting screens and rebounding would be a good start.

[Coxy]

You could have just said Jordan Bell. Much easier comp.

Not your finest moment here Evan. Bell could barely bounce a ball.

Uh, he actually could do it just as well as TJD. Neither of them should really be handling a ball much. I like TJD, but he pretty much has every weakness that Bell had, and is a worse athlete. I guess people didn’t watch much of Jordan Bell or TJD in college though. Similar prospects imo. Doesn’t mean TJD can’t be better, but I wouldn’t expect a world beater.


Of course it won’t stop anyone here from expecting exactly that even after repeatedly being disappointed by the Bells, Paschalls, etc of the world.

Paschall was what he was, I don't think the ex[ecation was ever much of him other than slamma jamma's. Same with Bell, he was a stiff athlete, and didn't even look like a basketball player to me. I think TJD has way more skill than both of them combined from the limited amount I've seen of him, but it's the off ball stuff that makes me get positive on his chances to be a solid rotation guy.

In saying that, I thought Smiley had a tonne of skill as well, just in the body of an accountant.

We shall see. I need some hope after our recent disasters of draft picking.

[whatisacenter]

I just think expecting anyone to be looney on switches isn’t going to be meet expectations.

Tjd does have heavy feet though, but we’ll see. Hell really need to be able to anticipate and read the offensive player.

Poor Trayce. He is getting the full Wiseman treatment that begins with hyping the big man to an unrealistic degree.

I think Warriors' fans are just desperate for a "big man". Trayce has a better shot as a rookie to contribute due to him being a year older than Wiseman and he has a ton of more experience(although not at the pro level) than James as well.

But, yes, expecting veteran Looney level defense out of TJD is asking way too much.

[CDM_Stats]

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I just think expecting anyone to be looney on switches isn’t going to be meet expectations.

Should go without saying

I think he plays more like a better defending Nemo in year 1, and the 2nd year offseason will tell me all I need to know.. he needs to be closer to Looney's weight if he wants to have a long NBA career

[michaelm]

I just think expecting anyone to be looney on switches isn’t going to be meet expectations.

Tjd does have heavy feet though, but we’ll see. Hell really need to be able to anticipate and read the offensive player.

Poor Trayce. He is getting the full Wiseman treatment that begins with hyping the big man to an unrealistic degree.

I think Warriors' fans are just desperate for a "big man". Trayce has a better shot as a rookie to contribute due to him being a year older than Wiseman and he has a ton of more experience(although not at the pro level) than James as well.

But, yes, expecting veteran Looney level defense out of TJD is asking way too much.

A better defending Nemo would be great for the team. Nemo was a highly savvy vet though.

Along with others I do feel better already about the roster construction than last year, there is some chance of TJD and Saric fitting with the team as Nemo and OPJ did, and both Wiggins and GPII being healthy and available would further add to the 2022 title winning team vibes. I remain hopeful about Moody although more doubtful about Kuminga. Also again hopefully the core trio has something left, and the medical team can nurse CP3 through a season as they did OPJ.

[Twinkie defense]

Whether they have prototypical size or are undersized, are athletic freaks or not very athletic, prototypical position or tweeners, underclassmen or upperclassmen, I like guys who know how to play basketball. Many of these guys don't know how to play basketball. If they can play, you can find a role for them. It's very early but TJD seems like he has some NBA basketball skills. That and toughness and BBIQ can go a long way.

[Twinkie defense]

Looney is so good now but it's funny seeing people sing his praises, considering what a nonfactor he was for so long.

[KevinMcreynolds]

TJD and Jordan Bell are nothing alike

[EvanZ]

TJD and Jordan Bell are nothing alike

They are very much alike. TJD may be a better or worse version, that remains to be seen.

[Twinkie defense]

Draymond was a big Jordan Bell mentor on the court. Jordan Bell had some issues unrelated to his play - remember when he got suspended for charging shite to Mike Brown's hotel room?

Bell was a pleasant surprise for the Warriors last season, but he hasn’t taken the next step this year while there have continued to be questions about his professionalism. He reportedly missed an optional practice during the playoffs last year, which veteran teammates took exception to, and also got into a heated sideline argument with head coach Steve Kerr this season — which Kerr later said was a “total misinterpretation of what I said.”

[tarantism]

TJD and Jordan Bell are nothing alike

Yeah I don't see it at all. TJD has a way better feel for the game, and he's less of a run/jump athlete. But I haven't seen him a ton, though my initial impressions confirmed a lot of what I read in the scouting reports.

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[CS707]

I think with players like Bell or TJD, it's as much about attitude and work ethic as it is physical abilities. Bell could have had a role in the league, IMO, he just had visions of a bigger role and lacked the work ethic to even be good at the role he was actually suited for. If TJD becomes even a 10 minute player, it's a win considering the investment.

[watch1958]

TJD and Jordan Bell are nothing alike

They are very much alike. TJD may be a better or worse version, that remains to be seen.

This actually makes me a little optimistic about TJD. Bell was a serviceable role player his first year. He got totally eclipsed by Kevon the next year, when Looney made huge improvements while JB partied.

If TJD is kinda like Bell, but with discipline and willingness to be coached, he could be a useful bench guy over 82 games.

Doesn’t make him likely to sniff the playoffs, but saving wear and tear on Draymond and Looney while banking RS wins is a good thing.

He looked a smidge puffy in SL, compared to March. I hope professional trainers and coaches will sharpen his body and game. Have Dejan teach him some tricks to use against bigger players.

[floppymoose]

I don't remember Bell making the kind of passes TJD makes.

[EvanZ]

I don't remember Bell making the kind of passes TJD makes.

You haven't seen TJD actually make any passes in an NBA game, but here's Jordan Bell making plenty:

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Easy for people to forget or maybe they never noticed in the first place.