2020 Draft Thread

[DAWill1128]

I think Wiggins will continue to fill out and get stronger which will help him play the 4 more. Wiggins also has a lot more hip wiggle to play shooting guard than Barnes ever had. Also Wiggins is much more lethal off the bounce, he would be a nightmare for power forwards to defend.

But I am really more so holding out hope that Paschall continues to develop and plays the 4 in a small ball line up. I think we will have a great offensive blend of shooting, passing, speed, and ability off the bounce.

[ILOVEIT]

Important to see more vid of Wiseman....no...he's not necessarily the next hoops god

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[Coxy]

Important to see more vid of Wiseman....no...he's not necessarily the next hoops god

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Haha, great vid, NOT. The kid has had no top level coaching yet.

Send this to Minnesota to look at. Maybe they'll fall for it and pass on him.

[MrMean]

Atlanta: nothing changed. They think Edwards, Wiseman, and Ball are off the board. Atlanta will be extremely active on draft night. I am not sure we know what expect from Atlanta. He did say what he's hearing is still true. Atlanta still wants to get another 1st. He thinks Atlanta could really hold multiple cards in this draft due to our cap space.

Washington will try to move up for Wiseman but they will need luck. They do have fear that Atlanta could potentially take Okongwu who they are targeting as well.

Boston is open to trading one of their 1st round picks but not selling it. Booooo!

These are the three teams that the front office should be talking to. There could be a lot of different options available.

Atlanta trades either Collins or Huerter and #6 for #2. Warriors take Vassell or Haliburton.

Washington trades #9 and a future 1st for #2. Warriors take Vassell, Haliburton, or Patrick Williams.

Celtics trade #14 and Marcus Smart for #2. Warriors take Patrick Williams, Pokusevski or Achiuwa.

I’m not sold on Edwards or Wiseman and I definitely don’t want Ball. Haliburton and Vassell would be solid picks and would contribute immediately in my opinion. Vassell would be home run pick despite not being a sexy pick so to speak. Williams and Pokusevski are two players worth taking a chance on if we trade lower.

[ShayDee]

I've been thinking about this. Forget the obvious very good jump shooting for his size, but I believe Wiseman could produce 75% of his skillset with better defense(I hope) and rim protection from day 1 if he is allowed to handle and create for himself. If you knew he could do this with potential of getting a good enough jumper for teams to respect, would he alleviate alot of hesitancy from fans as being the best player with potential in the draft? Wiseman is also way stronger than him

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[ChuckDurn]

Atlanta: nothing changed. They think Edwards, Wiseman, and Ball are off the board. Atlanta will be extremely active on draft night. I am not sure we know what expect from Atlanta. He did say what he's hearing is still true. Atlanta still wants to get another 1st. He thinks Atlanta could really hold multiple cards in this draft due to our cap space.

Washington will try to move up for Wiseman but they will need luck. They do have fear that Atlanta could potentially take Okongwu who they are targeting as well.

Boston is open to trading one of their 1st round picks but not selling it. Booooo!

These are the three teams that the front office should be talking to. There could be a lot of different options available.

Atlanta trades either Collins or Huerter and #6 for #2. Warriors take Vassell or Haliburton.

Washington trades #9 and a future 1st for #2. Warriors take Vassell, Haliburton, or Patrick Williams.

Celtics trade #14 and Marcus Smart for #2. Warriors take Patrick Williams, Pokusevski or Achiuwa.

I’m not sold on Edwards or Wiseman and I definitely don’t want Ball. Haliburton and Vassell would be solid picks and would contribute immediately in my opinion. Vassell would be home run pick despite not being a sexy pick so to speak. Williams and Pokusevski are two players worth taking a chance on if we trade lower.

I love every bit of this - not sure any of those teams would bite on those trades, but I'd try all of them. And at those draft slots, that's exactly who I'd target (except Achiuwa at 14).

[TB]

Watching Dort play defense this postseason has been amazing. Whats interesting is how similar he is built to Edwards. Also, when Edwards has locked in on man defense, he HAS looked like Dort on defense. The issue is obviously that Dort is mentally built like Dray/Smart/Bev in that he is a dawg in attack mode at all times.

Edwards interestingly has that mentality at times too, but I get a sense that 1) he has gotten a bit of a superstar ego and 2) he is probably tired half the time due to his usage.

If there is anyway Kerr/Adams can harness a defensive mentality like Dort for important stretches of the game (lets be honest its fine for a star to coast at times).... he probably becomes the best player from the draft.

[ShayDee]

These are the three teams that the front office should be talking to. There could be a lot of different options available.

Atlanta trades either Collins or Huerter and #6 for #2. Warriors take Vassell or Haliburton.

Washington trades #9 and a future 1st for #2. Warriors take Vassell, Haliburton, or Patrick Williams.

Celtics trade #14 and Marcus Smart for #2. Warriors take Patrick Williams, Pokusevski or Achiuwa.

I’m not sold on Edwards or Wiseman and I definitely don’t want Ball. Haliburton and Vassell would be solid picks and would contribute immediately in my opinion. Vassell would be home run pick despite not being a sexy pick so to speak. Williams and Pokusevski are two players worth taking a chance on if we trade lower.

Atlanta: They won't do it for Collins, Huerter is not enough to move down from 2, would need an additional asset

WAS: This is realistic given the draft strength but I will hate it very much because in a different draft moving from 2-9 would require more than 1 future 1st. Will hate it ALOT. Maybe add Troy Brown + #37 + 2021 1st (Top 5 protected). Might alleviate the pain

BOS: I know people might think this is worth it straight up but if you read behind the lines, We are gifting Boston a franchise C that will grow with their core of Tatum and Brown. Boston was hit tremendously by the pandemic and lack of fans I believe and their payroll is abysmal. They may love smart for his energy and defense but currently he is an offensive liability while being undersized some in this league that is growing bigger. We are releiving them off salary that will help their tax situation which should involve them adding an asset to us. Smart + 14 is not enough to move down from 2 imo.

Maybe:
Smart + 14 + 26 + 2021 1st( top 14 protected) for #2 + Paschall maybe? . I might be a bit greedy but that is me. The FO has to be convinced if they are going to absorb any money this coming offseason. We are currently top 3 in payroll in the league and I am not sure smart on his own is enough to convince them. Just look at his stats in the playoffs and what he is putting up in 35 mpg

[MrMean]

I don’t think the Warriors would be gifting Boston a franchise center because I don’t believe Wiseman is a franchise changing center. And if the Warriors make that trade then don’t think he is either. Smart and Vassell would solidly the perimeter next year and have us right back in the title hunt. Edwards or Wiseman do not do that for us in my opinion.

[KevinMcreynolds]

no way is Williams lasting to 14

[Onus]

Nate Hinton seems very similar to Marcus smart to me

[ILOVEIT]

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Haha, great vid, NOT. The kid has had no top level coaching yet.

Send this to Minnesota to look at. Maybe they'll fall for it and pass on him.

Oh I see....so he's a rough diamond that needs coaching? Below is KD in his first year...19 years old. That is what a baller looks like...not a guy that moves around not sure what they are supposed to be doing.

If you are in favor of bringing on a super athletic project, then let's call it like it is. But if you expect him to come in year one and really help the Warriors win a chip....I think the likelyhood of that is super low. I'm not good with that.

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[azwfan]

Important to see more vid of Wiseman....no...he's not necessarily the next hoops god

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Haha, great vid, NOT. The kid has had no top level coaching yet.

Send this to Minnesota to look at. Maybe they'll fall for it and pass on him.

Oh I see....so he's a rough diamond that needs coaching? Below is KD in his first year...19 years old. That is what a baller looks like...not a guy that moves around not sure what they are supposed to be doing.

If you are in favor of bringing on a super athletic project, then let's call it like it is. But if you expect him to come in year one and really help the Warriors win a chip....I think the likelyhood of that is super low. I'm not good with that.

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Did you watch the video?
Its of KG, not KD. And the beginning shows him screwing up worse than Wiseman in the other video. A couple wide open dunks and a few nice jumpers.

Furthermore, if “not as good as KG” is your requirement for whoever you take at 2... then there is nobody to take, cause nobody is guaranteed squat and likely none in this draft will be a good as KG ended up being.

The comparison should be to everyone else available in this draft. If theres someone you like more, speak on it. Good thing having the 2nd pick, only need a 2 man big board.

[Coxy]

Haha, great vid, NOT. The kid has had no top level coaching yet.

Send this to Minnesota to look at. Maybe they'll fall for it and pass on him.

Oh I see....so he's a rough diamond that needs coaching? Below is KD in his first year...19 years old. That is what a baller looks like...not a guy that moves around not sure what they are supposed to be doing.

If you are in favor of bringing on a super athletic project, then let's call it like it is. But if you expect him to come in year one and really help the Warriors win a chip....I think the likelyhood of that is super low. I'm not good with that.

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Did you watch the video?
Its of KG, not KD. And the beginning shows him screwing up worse than Wiseman in the other video. A couple wide open dunks and a few nice jumpers.

Furthermore, if “not as good as KG” is your requirement for whoever you take at 2... then there is nobody to take, cause nobody is guaranteed squat and likely none in this draft will be a good as KG ended up being.

The comparison should be to everyone else available in this draft. If theres someone you like more, speak on it. Good thing having the 2nd pick, only need a 2 man big board.

If we drafted KG and it took him 2-3 years to develop, I’m even more all in on drafting Wisey.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I don't think we'll be drafting Wiseman not because he isn't talented but because he's probably multiple years away from being playable. If he's teachable he'll be a 8-10 mpg player in year two but probably not capable of being a starter on a winning team until year 4 or 5.

There's two things that will be true of him guaranteed in years 1-3 or so. When the bullets are flying in a real NBA game 1. leapers will leap and 2. he'll be a disaster in the PnR.

He's not Tim Duncan, he's not an uber talented center coming in after 4 years of developing and dominating in college. He's raw as prison sex, he's going to jump out of the building at every pump fake he sees and every guard will run around him like his feet are glued to the ground. He's going to average a foul a minute.

If we draft him, he's unplayble in meaningful situations for 2-3 years.

[shazam_guy]

I love certainty. It amuses me.

[Scoots1994]

I love certainty. It amuses me.

Indeed.

[ShayDee]

Nate Hinton seems very similar to Marcus smart to me

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He is my candidate for Marcus Smart in this draft, in terms of size, defense, energy, some PnR ability

Edit: Also we should seriously conside picking him. He plays defense, can pass, if we can't get a back up PG in FA I would be happy if he is the one leading the 2nd unit.

My picks for rookies in this class.
1st round: James Wiseman, Desmond Bane and Saddiq Bey
2nd Round: Sam Merrill, Ty-Shon Alexander, Elijah Hughes and Tyler Bey

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[Onus]

Nate Hinton seems very similar to Marcus smart to me

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He is my candidate for Marcus Smart in this draft, in terms of size, defense, energy, some PnR ability

Edit: Also we should seriously conside picking him. He plays defense, can pass, if we can't get a back up PG in FA I would be happy if he is the one leading the 2nd unit.

My picks for rookies in this class.
1st round: James Wiseman, Desmond Bane and Saddiq Bey
2nd Round: Sam Merrill, Ty-Shon Alexander, Elijah Hughes and Tyler Bey

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I like Ty-Shon as well. I think Nate brings more energy and motor especially in regards to rebounding.

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[TB]

Nate Hinton seems very similar to Marcus smart to me

He's one of my favorites for our 2nd round picks.

As for comparisons, he reminds me a ton of a shorter Matt Barnes. Very similar college profile, size, movements, toughness, effort.