Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

[donkeylips]

I will cry if that happens

[jason bourne]

Do you listen to yourself? In regards to sleaze? The kid got courted by an NBA legend that was investing in the kid to make it big. You think James Wiseman is the 1st young athletic star to be given money to help them along, which in turn is an investment in the kid? You didn't see Lebron James driving around in a yellow hummer at 16 years old?

That video is just some random dudes thoughts. He doesn't know James, or Anfernee, and is throwing his poop at a wall in hope it sticks. Quite ironic though, because the video he put together was to rubbish Wiseman, which you happily lapped up, but he yammers on about Wiseman being "nothing more than a taller Giannis". .

You'll believe anything.

I don't think it's I who believes anything. It's you and the Wiseman d*ck suckers. Everything I've said has been true for the most part. What Wiseman was caught up in does sound sleazy. If Wiseman was what you think he is, then he wouldn't have quit on his team and played the season out after coming back from suspension. That shows he's got character and was trying to clear up his name. Instead, he gives an excuse that he can't pay back the money. I'm sure he would've gotten help in getting a job to do that.

Anyway, I've looked at the other two consensus picks and made my selections. The third one will probably be a BUST. Ideally, it would be nice for the Ws to trade down and get a vet and a pick, but I doubt other teams will give up much. Maybe the Knicks would give up Mitchell Robinson for the #2 pick if LaMelo is there. The Ws could hold out and get their #27 pick, in addition. That isn't too bad.

Mitchell Robinson and the 27th pick for the number 2 pick overall.

Mmmmkay I'm done responding to your muck. Pretty sure your just a trolling bot or something now anyway.

Don't go away. I was probing to see who believes anything haha.

I'm not sure if MRob + #8 pick will be worth it. It really depends who one thinks will be there at #8. The Knicks like Wiseman, so take either LaMelo or Wiseman, i.e. whoever is left for trade if they're looking to trade. The Celtics may trade Marcus Smart + #14 pick for the TPE + Wiseman.

The Pacers hired a new coach, so he may want to look at Myles Turner, TJ Warren, and Victor Oladipo. The Pacers seem up-in-the-air now for trades.

[HiRez]

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Vucevic would be interesting (only if their #15 is coming back to us) but then you have the same problem if Wiggins is moving, who is playing SF for us? No, not Klay. Also, Vucevic turns 30 years old today so not exactly setting up for the future.

[Coxy]

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I was luke warm on that idea, until Paul Pierce announced he thought it would be a good idea. We now know it's a terrible idea.

[basketballRob]

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Vucevic would be interesting (only if their #15 is coming back to us) but then you have the same problem if Wiggins is moving, who is playing SF for us? No, not Klay. Also, Vucevic turns 30 years old today so not exactly setting up for the future.

Vucevic's father played professionally into his 40's. That doesn't make him any younger, but he may have the genetic makeup to play for a while.

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[Quazza]

I like Vuc, but hard pass

[Ducklett]

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I was luke warm on that idea, until Paul Pierce announced he thought it would be a good idea. We now know it's a terrible idea.

This made me laugh.

Zach Lowe and Bill Simmons were discussing something like this too. I thought the same thing you thought about Pierce when Simmons said it

[cpower]

Vucevic is better than Wiggins. Good contract too. I am not sure what Orlando wants to do with Wiggins though

[Scoots1994]

Vucevic is better than Wiggins. Good contract too. I am not sure what Orlando wants to do with Wiggins though

Is a 31 year old Vucevic and a gaping hole at SF better than Wiggins and Wiseman (or other #2 pick)? I don't think so.

[Roddy B for 3]

I'm interested in this trade for GSW in particular to matchup with LAL (imo next seasons heavy favorite)

GSW in: Turner, Dort, Schroeder, Roberson
GSW out: Wiggins, trade exemption, #2, Minny pick
Indy in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
Indy out: Turner
OKC in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
OKC out: Dort, Roberson, Schroeder

GSW rotation:
Turner/Looney/Chris
Green/Pascall/Chris
Dort/Roberson/Klay
Klay/Schroder/Poole
Steph/Schroder/FA

Turner has been top 3 DPOY
Green is a former DPOY
Dort is an elite perimeter defender

Steph+Klay+Dennis will probably give you more offense than AD + LBJ. And the #4-#15 on GSw and #3-#15 on LAL have very similar offensive output.

Idk if I'd favor that GSW team vs LAL but I'd like them a LOOOT more than now in that matchup.

If anyone wants to rip apart this suggestion that'd be interesting to me. Just please tell me specifically if you think that team would be worse, better or 50/50 against whoever you have as the #1 title contender next season.

If people are against this trade because the picks are more valuable to them long-term than the players short term, I understand that. I will preventively ask would moderate draft pick compensation from okc and Indy coming back ease those concerns enough to send this trade through? (Think 2021 unprotected indy coming back, #23 from OKC this year, maybe a Clippers pick and/or some 2nds etc.)

[xdrta+]

I'm interested in this trade for GSW in particular to matchup with LAL (imo next seasons heavy favorite)

GSW in: Turner, Dort, Schroeder, Roberson
GSW out: Wiggins, trade exemption, #2, Minny pick
Indy in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
Indy out: Turner
OKC in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
OKC out: Dort, Roberson, Schroeder

GSW rotation:
Turner/Looney/Chris
Green/Pascall/Chris
Dort/Roberson/Klay
Klay/Schroder/Poole
Steph/Schroder/FA

Turner has been top 3 DPOY
Green is a former DPOY
Dort is an elite perimeter defender

Steph+Klay+Dennis will probably give you more offense than AD + LBJ. And the #4-#15 on GSw and #3-#15 on LAL have very similar offensive output.

Idk if I'd favor that GSW team vs LAL but I'd like them a LOOOT more than now in that matchup.

If anyone wants to rip apart this suggestion that'd be interesting to me. Just please tell me specifically if you think that team would be worse, better or 50/50 against whoever you have as the #1 title contender next season.

If people are against this trade because the picks are more valuable to them long-term than the players short term, I understand that. I will preventively ask would moderate draft pick compensation from okc and Indy coming back ease those concerns enough to send this trade through? (Think 2021 unprotected indy coming back, #23 from OKC this year, maybe a Clippers pick and/or some 2nds etc.)

Roberson is a FA. If OKC or Indy is taking Wiggins they need to send out about $24M in salary. The Warriors could absorb Schroeder's salary into the trade exception, but the trade exceptions themselves are never traded.

[Roddy B for 3]

I'm interested in this trade for GSW in particular to matchup with LAL (imo next seasons heavy favorite)

GSW in: Turner, Dort, Schroeder, Roberson
GSW out: Wiggins, trade exemption, #2, Minny pick
Indy in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
Indy out: Turner
OKC in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
OKC out: Dort, Roberson, Schroeder

GSW rotation:
Turner/Looney/Chris
Green/Pascall/Chris
Dort/Roberson/Klay
Klay/Schroder/Poole
Steph/Schroder/FA

Turner has been top 3 DPOY
Green is a former DPOY
Dort is an elite perimeter defender

Steph+Klay+Dennis will probably give you more offense than AD + LBJ. And the #4-#15 on GSw and #3-#15 on LAL have very similar offensive output.

Idk if I'd favor that GSW team vs LAL but I'd like them a LOOOT more than now in that matchup.

If anyone wants to rip apart this suggestion that'd be interesting to me. Just please tell me specifically if you think that team would be worse, better or 50/50 against whoever you have as the #1 title contender next season.

If people are against this trade because the picks are more valuable to them long-term than the players short term, I understand that. I will preventively ask would moderate draft pick compensation from okc and Indy coming back ease those concerns enough to send this trade through? (Think 2021 unprotected indy coming back, #23 from OKC this year, maybe a Clippers pick and/or some 2nds etc.)

Roberson is a FA. If OKC or Indy is taking Wiggins they need to send out about $24M in salary. The Warriors could absorb Schroeder's salary into the trade exception, but the trade exceptions themselves are never traded.

Trade exemption + pick = Schroder + Dort (+???maybe?)
Wiggins + pick for Turner (give or take a late first or a second round pick, etc)

Roberson as FA I think is a good pick up for GSW, as y'all need bodies to put on LBJ.

[ShayDee]

I'm interested in this trade for GSW in particular to matchup with LAL (imo next seasons heavy favorite)

GSW in: Turner, Dort, Schroeder, Roberson
GSW out: Wiggins, trade exemption, #2, Minny pick
Indy in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
Indy out: Turner
OKC in: #2 (or Minny pick), Wiggins (or trade exemption)
OKC out: Dort, Roberson, Schroeder

GSW rotation:
Turner/Looney/Chris
Green/Pascall/Chris
Dort/Roberson/Klay
Klay/Schroder/Poole
Steph/Schroder/FA

Turner has been top 3 DPOY
Green is a former DPOY
Dort is an elite perimeter defender

Steph+Klay+Dennis will probably give you more offense than AD + LBJ. And the #4-#15 on GSw and #3-#15 on LAL have very similar offensive output.

Idk if I'd favor that GSW team vs LAL but I'd like them a LOOOT more than now in that matchup.

If anyone wants to rip apart this suggestion that'd be interesting to me. Just please tell me specifically if you think that team would be worse, better or 50/50 against whoever you have as the #1 title contender next season.

If people are against this trade because the picks are more valuable to them long-term than the players short term, I understand that. I will preventively ask would moderate draft pick compensation from okc and Indy coming back ease those concerns enough to send this trade through? (Think 2021 unprotected indy coming back, #23 from OKC this year, maybe a Clippers pick and/or some 2nds etc.)

We are not trading the minny pick for peanuts. Yes Shroder and Dort are Peanuts. Fit of Draymond and Dort is very questionable. We need 3point shooting at the wing. Dort is only 6'4 he is not stopping Bron/AD nor is he helping our rebounding issue/ Shroder will be a rental. We will not give him anything more than the min

Only person worth anything is Turner and I will only give 1 lottery pick to attain him. Anything more is an overpay and I would rather keep Wiggins. We did not spend 1 year tanking and wasting Stephs prime just to throw away all the assets we gathered and end up with Dort, Turner and Shroder

[cdubbz]

would this work?

#2 pick to Celtics for Marcus Smart (TPE) & 14 & 26 pick?

I would Target Cole Anthony if he drops that low
and whoever at 26. Celtics hopefully want to cut costs but also Ainge gets another asset (if he hits then he's loaded). Warriors get a tested veteran plus two first rounders.

Curry/Cole Anthony
Klay/Smart/Poole
Wiggins/rookie/Lee
Green/Paschal
Quese/Looney/Smailagic

plus vet min on a wing or big

[ShayDee]

would this work?

#2 pick to Celtics for Marcus Smart (TPE) & 14 & 26 pick?

I would Target Cole Anthony if he drops that low
and whoever at 26. Celtics hopefully want to cut costs but also Ainge gets another asset (if he hits then he's loaded). Warriors get a tested veteran plus two first rounders.

Curry/Cole Anthony
Klay/Smart/Poole
Wiggins/rookie/Lee
Green/Paschal
Quese/Looney/Smailagic

plus vet min on a wing or big

I would take the deal at this point, although if there is a way to get BOS 21' pick

14 Bane

26 Tyler Bey/Robert Woodard

sign min Vet Big and min vet 3rd string SF

[cdubbz]

Cole Anthony is a BALLER. UNC didn't showcase him with their roster. He can score multiple ways, clutch, ball handler, good vision and defense. With teammates who can score Cole Anthony can be a beast. Dame Lillard type.

[ShayDee]

would this work?

#2 pick to Celtics for Marcus Smart (TPE) & 14 & 26 pick?

I would Target Cole Anthony if he drops that low
and whoever at 26. Celtics hopefully want to cut costs but also Ainge gets another asset (if he hits then he's loaded). Warriors get a tested veteran plus two first rounders.

Curry/Cole Anthony
Klay/Smart/Poole
Wiggins/rookie/Lee
Green/Paschal
Quese/Looney/Smailagic

plus vet min on a wing or big

I would take the deal at this point, although if there is a way to get BOS 21' pick

14 Bane

26 Tyler Bey/Robert Woodard

sign min Vet Big and min vet 3rd string SF

Actually there is some reports Warriors like Tillman. Issue with that is we have Chriss, Looney, Smailagic and Paschall. So we have to get rid of 1 of them to get Tillman on the roster. Unless they want Tillman as a starting C

But if we end up with Tillman and Bane/Bey from this draft I won't mind

[Onus]

would this work?

#2 pick to Celtics for Marcus Smart (TPE) & 14 & 26 pick?

I would Target Cole Anthony if he drops that low
and whoever at 26. Celtics hopefully want to cut costs but also Ainge gets another asset (if he hits then he's loaded). Warriors get a tested veteran plus two first rounders.

Curry/Cole Anthony
Klay/Smart/Poole
Wiggins/rookie/Lee
Green/Paschal
Quese/Looney/Smailagic

plus vet min on a wing or big

This would be a great trade not who I would target but the value is good

[kingcong95]

would this work?

#2 pick to Celtics for Marcus Smart (TPE) & 14 & 26 pick?

I would Target Cole Anthony if he drops that low
and whoever at 26. Celtics hopefully want to cut costs but also Ainge gets another asset (if he hits then he's loaded). Warriors get a tested veteran plus two first rounders.

Curry/Cole Anthony
Klay/Smart/Poole
Wiggins/rookie/Lee
Green/Paschal
Quese/Looney/Smailagic

plus vet min on a wing or big

I've gotten roasted on the main board for proposing Smart for #2 straight up. Boston is not adding on top of that.

[Mylie10]

Smart, Bane or Nesmith, and then Paul Reed or Vernon Carey.

Doubt Bey would be there at 26