2021 Draft Thread

[Onus]

They arent gonna go for more picks.. and I doubt they're making win now trades. They want whatever can get them long-term, cost-controlled assets. We just dont have what theyd want

but what if cleveland wants more picks in this draft? OKC is looking to move up and having more high end picks rather than future picks that may be in the 20s is worth more to cleveland

And I circle back to my original post: if they trade SGA, its for the #1 pick only. They arent gonna deal him just to move up 3 spots

That really depends on your evaluation of the prospects. I'd take Mobley no 1.

[FNQ]

but what if cleveland wants more picks in this draft? OKC is looking to move up and having more high end picks rather than future picks that may be in the 20s is worth more to cleveland

And I circle back to my original post: if they trade SGA, its for the #1 pick only. They arent gonna deal him just to move up 3 spots

That really depends on your evaluation of the prospects. I'd take Mobley no 1.

If they did, they'd be talking to CLE instead of Detroit.. significant value difference there and they probably have the pick capital to make it happen without SGA. They could pelt them with 1sts, or try and take bad salary from them

Bottom line, if SGA is available at all, which is highly suspect, we're not in play there. I'd imagine only a couple of teams are at all

[Onus]

And I circle back to my original post: if they trade SGA, its for the #1 pick only. They arent gonna deal him just to move up 3 spots

That really depends on your evaluation of the prospects. I'd take Mobley no 1.

If they did, they'd be talking to CLE instead of Detroit.. significant value difference there and they probably have the pick capital to make it happen without SGA. They could pelt them with 1sts, or try and take bad salary from them

Bottom line, if SGA is available at all, which is highly suspect, we're not in play there. I'd imagine only a couple of teams are at all

They have talked to Cleveland, there was no rumor that SGA was a part of those discussions but they've tried to move up.

If SGA is available, we should be in play. OKC is not looking for players, they're looking for lottery tickets

[Jester_]

What's the deal with Cameron Thomas? Don't get why he's not being brought up at 14

Hard to imagine that kind of scoring damage at his age not projecting in this league

[mos_def]

Why would we trade up for Suggs? We should be trading for SGA

Because he's a multi-skilled, tough-nosed winner - and you can't have enough of those guys.

And on a rookie contract were SGA is about to get paid

[TB]

Did we work out Garuba?

I think he's a great fit to play right away as a bench PF/C. Basically the defensive version of the Paschall role. The difference being he has upside of a Millsap role with glimmers of Draymond (his shot mechanics hilariously looks identical to Dray). I wouldn't doubt if he has a rookie year similar to what Pistons got with Stewart where everyone goes "why did everyone pass on such a sure thing?".

[DevinVassell]

u addressed nothing in my post and made no good points of your own

congrats on a terrible post.

So now Bouknight is undersized? Jesus H Christ.... and what is the average NBA height for a sg these days?

and Bouknights off ball movement is one of his strengths... your just making stuff up.

I'm seeing this come up a lot... is it? He was brutal at catch and shoot, slightly above average on cuts.. and as noted, he cuts a bit like Oubre - only to get the ball, never to latch a defender. That could be a UCONN issue more than a Bouknight issue, but its still a concern.

https://www.indycornrows.com/2021/6/8/22451227/james-bouknight-and-the-art-of-off-ball-movement

I linked this "rando" article before. Just some guys opinion obviously. Not an expert like some keyboard warriors I could mention.

"Bouknight is a fantastic off-ball mover, among the best in college basketball, and to me, it’s his major swing skill in translating to the NBA. He is a highly skilled player, but the movement skills are his elite tool that he’ll leverage at the next level to unlock other aspects of his game"

[Onus]

Why would we trade up for Suggs? We should be trading for SGA

Because he's a multi-skilled, tough-nosed winner - and you can't have enough of those guys.

And on a rookie contract were SGA is about to get paid

I'm not high on Suggs at all. He can be a starting pg, but I don't see all star in his future

[mos_def]

Because he's a multi-skilled, tough-nosed winner - and you can't have enough of those guys.

And on a rookie contract were SGA is about to get paid

I'm not high on Suggs at all. He can be a starting pg, but I don't see all star in his future

I have him ranked 5th on my board. I think he can be better than Olapdipo or Jrue Holiday.

[SAKURABA216]

Starting to think more and more that Kuminga may be there at 7 and someone from Wagner, Murphy, Mitchell, Moody, Sengun, Giddey, JJ, Keon will be there at 14, and while Kuminga is not a polished player I think it's looking likely to be a hell of a draft.

Kuminga and Keon have massive bust potential. Their floors are both pretty low and they could end up being Sekou Dombouye 2.0 and Hamidou Diallo 2.0. We are better off drafting a couple dudes that can actually shoot. Moody and Kispert are way safer and better trade bait.

[HiRez]

Did we work out Garuba?

I think he's a great fit to play right away as a bench PF/C. Basically the defensive version of the Paschall role. The difference being he has upside of a Millsap role with glimmers of Draymond (his shot mechanics hilariously looks identical to Dray). I wouldn't doubt if he has a rookie year similar to what Pistons got with Stewart where everyone goes "why did everyone pass on such a sure thing?".

I like Garuba a lot but I just don't see us taking a defensive specialist when we already have 2 offensively-challenged starters at the same positions Garuba plays. Love his relentless energy though and if they do pick him at 14, I won't be disappointed.

[mos_def]

https://www.indycornrows.com/2021/6/8/22451227/james-bouknight-and-the-art-of-off-ball-movement

I linked this "rando" article before. Just some guys opinion obviously. Not an expert like some keyboard warriors I could mention.

"Bouknight is a fantastic off-ball mover, among the best in college basketball, and to me, it’s his major swing skill in translating to the NBA. He is a highly skilled player, but the movement skills are his elite tool that he’ll leverage at the next level to unlock other aspects of his game"

I didnt write that article, but i agree with it. The thing Bouk does really bad tho is that right now he does not chase or run through screens well at all

[GS Warriors 1]

Seeing a lot of Franz Wagner.

[Onus]

:lol:

And on a rookie contract were SGA is about to get paid

I'm not high on Suggs at all. He can be a starting pg, but I don't see all star in his future

I have him ranked 5th on my board. I think he can be better than Olapdipo or Jrue Holiday.

So fringe all star. Yea I think SGA is going to be better than that.

[DonaldSanders]

but what if cleveland wants more picks in this draft? OKC is looking to move up and having more high end picks rather than future picks that may be in the 20s is worth more to cleveland

And I circle back to my original post: if they trade SGA, its for the #1 pick only. They arent gonna deal him just to move up 3 spots

That really depends on your evaluation of the prospects. I'd take Mobley no 1.

I feel like we're all going to look back and wonder how people didn't rush to try to snag Mobley. I'd give a hefty package to get Mobley on this team. A big man with great defense and decent shooting and a clear knack for the game. He is the biggest lock of the draft to be a star and who I'd take #1.

Cleveland can be dumb, we should really try to work some kind of prayer trade out. Mobley would set us for Steph's prime.

[Onus]

And I circle back to my original post: if they trade SGA, its for the #1 pick only. They arent gonna deal him just to move up 3 spots

That really depends on your evaluation of the prospects. I'd take Mobley no 1.

I feel like we're all going to look back and wonder how people didn't rush to try to snag Mobley. I'd give a hefty package to get Mobley on this team. A big man with great defense and decent shooting and a clear knack for the game. He is the biggest lock of the draft to be a star and who I'd take #1.

Cleveland can be dumb, we should really try to work some kind of prayer trade out. Mobley would set us for Steph's prime.

Mobley has everything you want in a modern day center outside of the heft right now. You can run offense through him because he can pass. He can shoot it a little bit. He can guard 1-5 and he protects the rim. He's a 7' that you can play 40+mpg and not really give up anything. I'm not sure he has no 1 type option to carry an offense by himself like a Lebron, Luka, Jokic but he's going to be a high level impact player in every facet.

[clyde21]

So now Bouknight is undersized? Jesus H Christ.... and what is the average NBA height for a sg these days?

and Bouknights off ball movement is one of his strengths... your just making stuff up.

what the **** are you talking about? of course he's undersized. he logged in 6-3 at combine without shoes, yes, of course that's undersized, especially in our scheme where as a 2 he'll be asked to switch up to guard 3s, he won't be able to, he's a single-position defender, if that.

and lmao @ Bouk's strength being off-ball movement...just like Oubre off-ball movements were his strength, right? until you realize he's a one read cutter who has no clue how to relocate, make himself consistently available to the passer, or has any pick or screen setting juice.

it's bad enough I have to teach people on the general board about what the Warriors like to do and what kind of offense/players we've put on the court the last half a dozen years...but it's actually unbelievable that I have to consistently explain it to Dubs fans on this board. comical that ya'll still haven't learned your lesson after Wiseman.

i'll put this Bouknight BS to bed once and for all: we're talking about an undersized, heliocentric, ISO-heavy 2 guard who has piss poor vision/passing instincts, who shot 29% from 3 overall, shot 22% on spot up 3s (8-37), who's at best a single-position defender who won't be able to switch with a poor decision making history as a "lead" guard.

ya'll **** deserve Myers and the hellhole he's turned this team into...going from one of the best passing, highest IQ teams of all time to bringing on players like Oubre and Wiseman, and now seeing yall want him to take Bouknight. all yall care about is how cool he looks on a step 3 highlight because derp sportscenter derp without realizing he's a non-winning archetype in today's NBA and has ZERO historic fit in this scheme or with our personnel.

#2 and #7 overall picks in 2 consecutive drafts...only to come away with Wiseman and Bouknight...lmfao. yall really do deserve Myers.

You know the level of arrogance you need to write a statement like that is actually quite funny. But we do appreciate that you have dedicated 20 posts a day for the last 7 years to "teach" us simpletons what the warriors like to do. Truly impressive....

I say get your foot in the door and then you can turn this Myers created hellhole around.

https://www.teamworkonline.com/basketball-jobs/warriors/golden-state-warriors-careers/assistant-manager-kitchen-operations-1987629

i expected a non response to this because u got nothing, wasn't disappointed.

[whatisacenter]

finally the draft is tomorrow! I have a feeling Kuminga will be on the board at 7 which should make things interesting as far as trading him in a package, trading back or picking him for the team. If they pass they will have their pick of Moody, Wagner or Giddey. So far there has been silence in regards to Beal or any other player asking out before the draft. Tomorrow should be crazy!!! They Dubs could pick Bouknight and we would all be treated to Clyde losing his mind!

[mos_def]

finally the draft is tomorrow! I have a feeling Kuminga will be on the board at 7 which should make things interesting as far as trading him in a package, trading back or picking him for the team. If they pass they will have their pick of Moody, Wagner or Giddey. So far there has been silence in regards to Beal or any other player asking out before the draft. Tomorrow should be crazy!!! They Dubs could pick Bouknight and we would all be treated to Clyde losing his mind!

I will have the welcome to the bay thread ready Bouk...and waiting for a few to drop their disapproval, lol

[DonaldSanders]

That really depends on your evaluation of the prospects. I'd take Mobley no 1.

I feel like we're all going to look back and wonder how people didn't rush to try to snag Mobley. I'd give a hefty package to get Mobley on this team. A big man with great defense and decent shooting and a clear knack for the game. He is the biggest lock of the draft to be a star and who I'd take #1.

Cleveland can be dumb, we should really try to work some kind of prayer trade out. Mobley would set us for Steph's prime.

Mobley has everything you want in a modern day center outside of the heft right now. You can run offense through him because he can pass. He can shoot it a little bit. He can guard 1-5 and he protects the rim. He's a 7' that you can play 40+mpg and not really give up anything. I'm not sure he has no 1 type option to carry an offense by himself like a Lebron, Luka, Jokic but he's going to be a high level impact player in every facet.

I completely agree. It's just unfortunate there doesn't appear to be a route for us to get him, he is perfect. I'd probably give up what seems like an overpay to get it done, as long as we don't lose our starting 5 (with Mobley being the 5, and I'd be OK with a Wiggins swap for a similar player). With Draymond we need a big who can hit some shots, and on defense we'd just go on another level considering our upper third D rating last season (plus Klay).

It's almost frustrating just being stuck behind a keyboard with no way to sway management to go get Mobley!