2020 Draft Thread

[TB]

I have to lol every time a poster says something like, “So and so has stiff hips” Lol

To be fair, I think everyone can agree Looney has stiff hips. Although they may have been replaced with less stiff hips.

I’m not pointing to the hips comment based on injury issues. It’s just that we as posters can judge a guys jump shot and see how he dribbles the ball. We can watch and then look at the numbers in rebounding, etc.

But stiff hips? Lol

Just some of the stuff that a normal poster will say just sounds ridiculous. Now that could have been pulled from a draft or scouting source, but I laugh at some of those sources as well, based on some of the things they come up with. It’s bs.

Totally agree. A lot of draft lingo thrown around. I can't even read Stepian scouting reports because they annoy me with their lingo lol.

I mostly was just poking fun at my guy Loon's old man hips.

[Warriors Analyst]

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Obviously Poku's body needs work, but my god, the ball-handling ability and the court vision at his size is intoxicating.

[TB]

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Obviously Poku's body needs work, but my god, the ball-handling ability and the court vision at his size is intoxicating.

Everyone talks about Ball as the highest IQ player in this draft, but I really think it's Poku. Why i've had him between 1-5 on my board basically all year.

I don't know enough about his character, work ethic, etc. But if all of those boxes were checked by Bob, i'd be totally fine with him at 2.

Yes I know that will not happen, but I can dream.

[Warriors Analyst]

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Obviously Poku's body needs work, but my god, the ball-handling ability and the court vision at his size is intoxicating.

Everyone talks about Ball as the highest IQ player in this draft, but I really think it's Poku. Why i've had him between 1-5 on my board basically all year.

I don't know enough about his character, work ethic, etc. But if all of those boxes were checked by Bob, i'd be totally fine with him at 2.

Yes I know that will not happen, but I can dream.

Trade down trade down trade down. I'd take that risk for Poku. You just don't see guys his size move like that. The passing is what sold me. You can improve a body. You can't create creative genius in a player. You have it or you don't.

[TB]

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Obviously Poku's body needs work, but my god, the ball-handling ability and the court vision at his size is intoxicating.

Everyone talks about Ball as the highest IQ player in this draft, but I really think it's Poku. Why i've had him between 1-5 on my board basically all year.

I don't know enough about his character, work ethic, etc. But if all of those boxes were checked by Bob, i'd be totally fine with him at 2.

Yes I know that will not happen, but I can dream.

Trade down trade down trade down. I'd take that risk for Poku. You just don't see guys his size move like that. The passing is what sold me. You can improve a body. You can't create creative genius in a player. You have it or you don't.

Yup, goes back to my favorite trade down: Pick up Kennard moving back with Detroit, snag Poku or Okongwu. Just need them to fall in love with someone at 2.

[Little Digger]

with the No. 2 pick?

The situation: The Warriors had the league's worst record after injuries ruined their chances of extending their run of five consecutive NBA Finals appearances. Now armed with the second pick, Golden State has a choice: Draft a young prospect to try to extend a bridge to the next great Warriors team or attempt to trade for a star who can help now.

What league insiders are saying: People around the league are unanimous in thinking that the Warriors will do their best to pull off a trade. But finding the right trade is the problem.

Booker isn't available. Neither is Washington Wizards guard Bradley Beal. Despite a first-round playoff exit, Philadelphia 76ers general manager Elton Brand has declared Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid off limits as well. The best package Golden State has to attract a star -- forward Andrew Wiggins, the No. 2 pick and Minnesota's lightly protected 2021 first-round pick -- would almost assuredly be available if any of those players do hit the trade market.

The most gettable name might wind up being New Orleans Pelicans guard Jrue Holiday, but he turned 30 in June and can hit free agency in 2021. Celtics guard Marcus Smart was mentioned as another good fit, yet it's hard to see Boston being willing to move him.

While a Beal deal isn't available now, collecting pieces to try to acquire him before next season's trade deadline was among the most popular suggestions.

"That's the argument for drafting the guy with the broadest appeal and [the Warriors] trying to position themselves to trade for Beal later," an Eastern Conference executive said.

Barring a trade, Wiseman was the predicted pick.

"I think Wiseman fits better than people think," a Western Conference executive said. "I think [the pick is] more likely to be traded, but I don't hate Wiseman there."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29793884/nba-draft-buzz-league-insiders-warriors-trades-top-prospects?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

[ShayDee]

with the No. 2 pick?

The situation: The Warriors had the league's worst record after injuries ruined their chances of extending their run of five consecutive NBA Finals appearances. Now armed with the second pick, Golden State has a choice: Draft a young prospect to try to extend a bridge to the next great Warriors team or attempt to trade for a star who can help now.

What league insiders are saying: People around the league are unanimous in thinking that the Warriors will do their best to pull off a trade. But finding the right trade is the problem.

Booker isn't available. Neither is Washington Wizards guard Bradley Beal. Despite a first-round playoff exit, Philadelphia 76ers general manager Elton Brand has declared Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid off limits as well. The best package Golden State has to attract a star -- forward Andrew Wiggins, the No. 2 pick and Minnesota's lightly protected 2021 first-round pick -- would almost assuredly be available if any of those players do hit the trade market.

The most gettable name might wind up being New Orleans Pelicans guard Jrue Holiday, but he turned 30 in June and can hit free agency in 2021. Celtics guard Marcus Smart was mentioned as another good fit, yet it's hard to see Boston being willing to move him.

While a Beal deal isn't available now, collecting pieces to try to acquire him before next season's trade deadline was among the most popular suggestions.

"That's the argument for drafting the guy with the broadest appeal and [the Warriors] trying to position themselves to trade for Beal later," an Eastern Conference executive said.

Barring a trade, Wiseman was the predicted pick.

"I think Wiseman fits better than people think," a Western Conference executive said. "I think [the pick is] more likely to be traded, but I don't hate Wiseman there."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29793884/nba-draft-buzz-league-insiders-warriors-trades-top-prospects?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

This is exactly what I predict will happen and why I am not falling for the Deni hype. This is also the best thing we can do in the offseason. at 2 it is either Wiseman or Edwards. They are by far the best prospects and have the highest trade Value in this draft and both players fit right with this team, more so Wiseman. We are not trading out of #2 without getting a star back. None of this Aaron Gordon stuff writers are pushing out. We are not trading down unless we get picks back, specifically a 2021 1st lightly protected, which no team is willing to part.

So end of the day the best thing to do, Draft Wiseman/Edwards. Give them many minutes while winning games and racking up stats. Same with Wiggins, while trying to raise his negative value because right now Wiggins will require many assets alone to give up which would be stupid for us to do with our aging stars.

I think we can have a good mid season before the deadline with Steph Klay Wiggins Dray Wiseman. There might be someone available for trade by then, like Beal, one of the Philly boys, or even Giannis. So it's best to stay put and raise the trade value of our assets. And who knows, if we are unstoppable even better for us lmao. We don't have to trade anything

[Little Digger]

I’m getting higher and higher on Patrick Williams..he’s strong like bull and athletic enough to defend multiple positions

Doubt we’re going to get much in a trade ..but hoping I’m wrong

[Mylie10]

I’m praying some cash strapped team is really looking to cut salary and we get a nice asset out of the TPE.

[Mav_Carter]

I’m getting higher and higher on Patrick Williams..he’s strong like bull and athletic enough to defend multiple positions

Doubt we’re going to get much in a trade ..but hoping I’m wrong

and he has a very important quality...thickness...

[Mylie10]

I’m getting higher and higher on Patrick Williams..he’s strong like bull and athletic enough to defend multiple positions

Doubt we’re going to get much in a trade ..but hoping I’m wrong

and he has a very important quality...thickness...

So did Hilton Armstrong

[jason bourne]

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I'm getting more excited about Warriors KEEPING their 2020 #2 draft pick. Comparison is Luka.

[wco81]

That video says it's only in the last season he got any kind of minutes. Luka was getting a lot of minutes for years before he got drafted.

[ChuckDurn]

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I'm getting more excited about Warriors KEEPING their 2020 #2 draft pick. Comparison is Luka.

Demi might become a nice player, but comparing him to Luka is a dis-service to him.

Luka was dominating the best European League. He had obvious genius skill level. When he was 17, he led Slovenia to the European championship; Goran Dragic was on the team, and was deferring to Doncic, because he could tell how good he was.

I’ve seen others make this comparison (Deni to Doncic), but it’s lazy. Yes, he’s a skilled white wing who was playing overseas. But Doncic was dominating teams, completely imposing his will, with stats that jumped off the page. Deni had some good games, but against inferior competition, and his best stats were nowhere close to an average game for Luka.

I would consider and probably take Deni at #4, but there’s no what in hell I would consider him above Wiseman, Edwards, or Ball (for trade value, rather than fit).

[jason bourne]

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I'm getting more excited about Warriors KEEPING their 2020 #2 draft pick. Comparison is Luka.

Demi might become a nice player, but comparing him to Luka is a dis-service to him.

Luka was dominating the best European League. He had obvious genius skill level. When he was 17, he led Slovenia to the European championship; Goran Dragic was on the team, and was deferring to Doncic, because he could tell how good he was.

I’ve seen others make this comparison (Deni to Doncic), but it’s lazy. Yes, he’s a skilled white wing who was playing overseas. But Doncic was dominating teams, completely imposing his will, with stats that jumped off the page. Deni had some good games, but against inferior competition, and his best stats were nowhere close to an average game for Luka.

I would consider and probably take Deni at #4, but there’s no what in hell I would consider him above Wiseman, Edwards, or Ball (for trade value, rather than fit).

Bulls have the #4, but may trade WCJ + #4 for #2 + filler. WCJ ins't in the level of MRob nor Thomas Bryant, but is serviceable. Taking Deni at #4 would be a win.

[ChuckDurn]

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I'm getting more excited about Warriors KEEPING their 2020 #2 draft pick. Comparison is Luka.

Demi might become a nice player, but comparing him to Luka is a dis-service to him.

Luka was dominating the best European League. He had obvious genius skill level. When he was 17, he led Slovenia to the European championship; Goran Dragic was on the team, and was deferring to Doncic, because he could tell how good he was.

I’ve seen others make this comparison (Deni to Doncic), but it’s lazy. Yes, he’s a skilled white wing who was playing overseas. But Doncic was dominating teams, completely imposing his will, with stats that jumped off the page. Deni had some good games, but against inferior competition, and his best stats were nowhere close to an average game for Luka.

I would consider and probably take Deni at #4, but there’s no what in hell I would consider him above Wiseman, Edwards, or Ball (for trade value, rather than fit).

Bulls have the #4, but may trade WCJ + #4 for #2 + filler. WCJ ins't in the level of MRob nor Thomas Bryant, but is serviceable. Taking Deni at #4 would be a win.

Carter is reasonable value for trading down, but I’m not sure how well he’d fit what the Warriors need. He doesn’t have good range (which is a problem offensively with Draymond around), he’s a bit undersized at the 5, and has had trouble staying on the court (I’d want to see his injury records). I’d have to think about him.

But if you’re convinced that the Bulls’ trading up was to take Deni, who would you be targeting at 4?

[wco81]

WCJ is 6-9 and more of a 4?

[ChuckDurn]

WCJ is 6-9 and more of a 4?

He plays the 5. That's what he did at Duke, and that's what he's done in the NBA (next to - primarily - Markkanen or Thaddeus Young at the 4). It's his comfortable position.

[TB]

I'm so sick of the Deni comparisons to Luka, even as a "Luka light".... no, just no.

[Mylie10]

I’d be so disappointed if Wendell Carter was some sort of prize this offseason.

Sounds like a Vlade move.