Andrew Wiggins one of Warriors' 'core four' players, Bob Myers says

[KevinMcreynolds]

His perimeter defense on Lebron in the final minutes was all-defense level

[tarantism]

His perimeter defense on Lebron in the final minutes was all-defense level

Yes. He also kept us in the game for a stretch with those threes. I don't really even mind if he has some games where he's invisible offensively as long as he keeps playing defense like this honestly.

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[vagelis]

His perimeter defense on Lebron in the final minutes was all-defense level

Yes. He also kept us in the game for a stretch with those threes. I don't really even mind if he has some games where he's invisible offensively as long as he keeps playing defense like this honestly.

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All these games that he played for Warriors this year, would have been named as games he was invisible in his Minesota era.
These are his invisible games and if he still played in Minesota, those performances would all be loses for the Wolves.
He had multiple 30 and 40 point games for the Wolves and these was his good games.
When he had 16 point games all the blame went to him.
Warriors have not had big games from Wiggins yet. He is not given the role to have big games.
He gets less touches and he does not get any screens.
Warriors don't use his full strengths but ok I hope he will earn a bigger role until the playoffs

[tarantism]

His perimeter defense on Lebron in the final minutes was all-defense level

Yes. He also kept us in the game for a stretch with those threes. I don't really even mind if he has some games where he's invisible offensively as long as he keeps playing defense like this honestly.

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All these games that he played for Warriors this year, would have been named as games he was invisible in his Minesota era.
These are his invisible games and if he still played in Minesota those performances would all be loses for the Wolves.
He had multiple 30 and 40 point games for the Wolves and these was his good games.
When he had 16 point games all the blame went to him.
Warriors have not had big games from Wiggins yet. He is not given the role to have big games.
He gets less touches and he does not get any screens.
Warriors don't use his full strengths but ok I hope he will earn a bigger role until the playoffs

I mean, personally I'm in for the defense and hustle. He hits enough shots, its more important that he stays efficient. If he scores 40 points on good efficiency, great! But the defense and hustle is more important to me and he has brought that consistently, and his three point stroke has been nice too.

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[Crazy-Canuck]

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Kerr shouldnt be afraid to go to this more often, especially when we see the offense struggle. It could help open the floor and take some of the heat off of curry. Watching oubre, wannamaker, baze, etc..trying to iso isnt scaring anyone.

[vagelis]

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Kerr shouldnt be afraid to go to this more often, especially when we see the offense struggle. It could help open the floor and take some of the heat off of curry. Watching oubre, wannamaker, baze, etc..trying to iso isnt scaring anyone.

So, we are two from the Wolves forum who follow the Warriors now:)

[Crazy-Canuck]

Nah, i follow about 3 or 4 teams.

[TB]

This is sorta captain obvious status, but I thought it was interesting....

When looking at our 5 leading scorers, I was curious whose shooting really seems to be making a massive difference in wins vs losses.

Wiggins and Wiseman have the smallest gap in TS% in wins and losses. Which shows that they have been fairly consistent shooting, and in Wiggins case I do feel like his defense has been consistently solid. We kind of know what we are getting from Wiggins, which has been a nice bonus for the year.

Just to finish up this thought with the other players, its also fairly obvious but here was the results on other top scorers:
Steph - 66 TS% in wins. 55% in losses. obviously we are lethal when he is on, but he's solid almost always.
Paschall - Up at 63 TS% in our wins, drops to 53 in losses. He's been very good all year.
Oubre - this is probably the one that impacts us the most. In our wins he's at 50 TS% (still not good at all), and down at an abysmal 36 TS% in losses. For his career hes 57/50 in W/L splits. This is simplifying things, but its a simple game... if Oubre gets back to normal scoring results, we are infinitely better.

[Mylie10]

What that stat showed me is that Edwards is tough in one on one matchups. Who knew?

[vagelis]

Give him the ball more. He is the second best player of this team.
Warriors try to use him like a role player while they have noone except Curry to rely in offense.

He has worked a lot the last years.
He is ready for a big role for a winning team now.
Warriors use Wiggins like there is a healthy Thompson or Durant in the team.But there is not.
Use him at sg position and give him screens and touches, he can be a 25ppg scorer for Warriors

[cpower]

Give him the ball more. He is the second best player of this team.
Warriors try to use him like a role player while they have noone except Curry to rely in offense.

He has worked a lot the last years.
He is ready for a big role for a winning team now.
Warriors use Wiggins like there is a healthy Thompson or Durant in the team.But there is not.
Use him at sg position and give him screens and touches, he can be a 25ppg scorer for Warriors

Terrible idea. With these touches he barely on league 55%ts. Wiggins is playing the perfect role for us. We need to get the touches to our shooters (curry lee baze and mulder) if we want to get our offense to where we want to be. We are bottom three in the league and starting lineup is the worst due to lack of outside shooting

[vagelis]

Give him the ball more. He is the second best player of this team.
Warriors try to use him like a role player while they have noone except Curry to rely in offense.

He has worked a lot the last years.
He is ready for a big role for a winning team now.
Warriors use Wiggins like there is a healthy Thompson or Durant in the team.But there is not.
Use him at sg position and give him screens and touches, he can be a 25ppg scorer for Warriors

Terrible idea. With these touches he barely on league 55%ts. Wiggins is playing the perfect role for us. We need to get the touches to our shooters (curry lee baze and mulder) if we want to get our offense to where we want to be. We are bottom three in the league and starting lineup is the worst due to lack of outside shooting

If your team loses with 40pts difference then something is not good with the roles.
Wiggins shoots 41% 3p this year and he is more than capable to create his shot.
If you want to give more touches to Lee, Baze and Mulder than to Wiggins ok we have not much to discuss.

[ahmetmekin]

Give him the ball more. He is the second best player of this team.
Warriors try to use him like a role player while they have noone except Curry to rely in offense.

He has worked a lot the last years.
He is ready for a big role for a winning team now.
Warriors use Wiggins like there is a healthy Thompson or Durant in the team.But there is not.
Use him at sg position and give him screens and touches, he can be a 25ppg scorer for Warriors

Terrible idea. With these touches he barely on league 55%ts. Wiggins is playing the perfect role for us. We need to get the touches to our shooters (curry lee baze and mulder) if we want to get our offense to where we want to be. We are bottom three in the league and starting lineup is the worst due to lack of outside shooting

If your team loses with 40pts difference then something is not good with the roles.
Wiggins shoots 41% 3p this year and he is more than capable to create his shot.
If you want to give more touches to Lee, Baze and Mulder than to Wiggins ok we have not much to discuss.

If you give Wiggins more touches our starting lineup would probably improve because we have 3 players in our starting lineup worse than an inefficient version of Wiggins on offense. But the rational solution is to change the starting lineup, it is not to have a worse version of Wiggins.

[vagelis]

Terrible idea. With these touches he barely on league 55%ts. Wiggins is playing the perfect role for us. We need to get the touches to our shooters (curry lee baze and mulder) if we want to get our offense to where we want to be. We are bottom three in the league and starting lineup is the worst due to lack of outside shooting

If your team loses with 40pts difference then something is not good with the roles.
Wiggins shoots 41% 3p this year and he is more than capable to create his shot.
If you want to give more touches to Lee, Baze and Mulder than to Wiggins ok we have not much to discuss.

If you give Wiggins more touches our starting lineup would probably improve because we have 3 players in our starting lineup worse than an inefficient version of Wiggins on offense. But the rational solution is to change the starting lineup, it is not to have a worse version of Wiggins.

Wiggins is always better when he has a bigger role.
Trust me you will not get a worse version of Wiggins if he gets more touches.
The reason why he plays good as a spot up shooter this year is because he had 8 months in offseason to work his shooting.
But his strength was always attacking the basket and you get a better player if you give him the ball more and put him into position to create offense. Give him some screens at the top, you will see an attacking Wiggins then scoring and passing to open players.
He has become a better shooter this year, he can play in a higher level, just give him the bigger role

[cpower]

If your team loses with 40pts difference then something is not good with the roles.
Wiggins shoots 41% 3p this year and he is more than capable to create his shot.
If you want to give more touches to Lee, Baze and Mulder than to Wiggins ok we have not much to discuss.

If you give Wiggins more touches our starting lineup would probably improve because we have 3 players in our starting lineup worse than an inefficient version of Wiggins on offense. But the rational solution is to change the starting lineup, it is not to have a worse version of Wiggins.

Wiggins is always better when he has a bigger role.
Trust me you will not get a worse version of Wiggins if he gets more touches.
The reason why he plays good as a spot up shooter this year is because he had 8 months in offseason to work his shooting.
But his strength was always attacking the basket and you get a better player if you give him the ball more and put him into position to create offense. Give him some screens at the top, you will see an attacking Wiggins then scoring and passing to open players.
He has become a better shooter this year, he can play in a higher level, just give him the bigger role

Wiggins has been showing worse efficiency when he is going iso. This is the first season he has ever cracked the league avg efficiency, let him keep the role and we will be fine when Klay is back. He is not a good finisher around the basket so i am not sure why you want him to keep attacking, his efficiency is coming from amazing 3% percentage ..

[Coxy]

I want more post Wiggins.

[Mylie10]

If Oubre is gonna stay starting then we have to switch Oubre and Wiggins in their roles. Much rather have Wiggins shooting these corner threes.

[vagelis]

If you give Wiggins more touches our starting lineup would probably improve because we have 3 players in our starting lineup worse than an inefficient version of Wiggins on offense. But the rational solution is to change the starting lineup, it is not to have a worse version of Wiggins.

Wiggins is always better when he has a bigger role.
Trust me you will not get a worse version of Wiggins if he gets more touches.
The reason why he plays good as a spot up shooter this year is because he had 8 months in offseason to work his shooting.
But his strength was always attacking the basket and you get a better player if you give him the ball more and put him into position to create offense. Give him some screens at the top, you will see an attacking Wiggins then scoring and passing to open players.
He has become a better shooter this year, he can play in a higher level, just give him the bigger role

Wiggins has been showing worse efficiency when he is going iso. This is the first season he has ever cracked the league avg efficiency, let him keep the role and we will be fine when Klay is back. He is not a good finisher around the basket so i am not sure why you want him to keep attacking, his efficiency is coming from amazing 3% percentage ..

He is a good finisher around the basket but this year he started bad for some reason around the basket.
Ok, the next year maybe things will be better if Thompson comes back healthy and in a good condition. But what about this year?

[pepe1991]

He is still very average player payed max contract.
17,4 ppg , 40,7% for 3 sounds good.
It's not bad, but his true shooting percentage is just at league's average. His shot is as valuable to offense as imaginary replacment level average nba player and his.
He is still poor mid range shooter, but at least he stopped taking 50% of all shots from there, but now he kind a can't finish around rim, being just 55% inside 3 feet.

Overall, as outside looking at Warriors, in my opinion, too many fans rely way way too much on notion Klay will be back and same player he was. But he flat out won't. Klay tore his ACL in what? July of 2019 and did not play basketball since?
it will be 2 full years gap. He will be 31 next year. Not old, but not that young. Sure, he will probably be able to shoot well, but days of him chasing guards through screens will 100% be over.

At some point this year it will become obvious you guys are not playoff team ( top 10 worst defense and offense , 8th worst net rating), give Wiseman time to develop and search for trades that would remove terrible burden of salary your GM put on you taking back D Lo, later Wiggins just to not lose Durant for nothing.
Regardless of Klay's return, without two way -super star wing, you won't compete for title any time soon. Not just you, but no nba team can compete without elite wing player.

[The-Power]

It's not bad, but his true shooting percentage is just at league's average. His shot is as valuable to offense as imaginary replacment level average nba player and his.

That's a fallacy. First, replacement level NBA players and average NBA player are worlds apart. So you'd have to clarify what you're actually talking about. Second, you can't compare opportunistic scorers to shot creators on decent volume or higher-volume scorers in terms of their percentages. That's bound to lead to incorrect conclusions.

Either way, as an outsider, you might want to hear what Warriors fans are actually arguing. First, nobody I know is claiming that Wiggins is worth his current contract. That's not our concern either, we don't really care about the owners' pockets. Second, most fans consider his defense to be a key reason for why Wiggins is useful to us, so that shouldn't be entirely neglected when evaluating him.

Also, we do not tend to evaluate him based his salary but on a) what we got out of the deal with Minnesota, b) whether he is useful for us or not, and c) what kind of expectations had, after everyone told us that Wiggins is a terrible player. Safe to say that he fares pretty well compared to those reference points thus far.