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Might as well bring Jessup over.
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Twinkie defense wrote:Next season Klay and Kelly can yak to prac together.
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GswStorm3 wrote:Might as well bring Jessup over.
Oh, that's a good idea!
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timlin500 wrote:I actually liked Chriss. Sad he got injured. He's still super young and has been solid and developing a 3 point shot
Same. Tough to see him go but I get why the dubs traded him away. Don't know much about the guy they got back but its not someone who's rostered so that saves them some luxury tax
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Chriss won't be able to play this season, and becomes an unrestricted free agent this summer, so not much sense in keeping him around.
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FNQ wrote:tal57 wrote:FNQ wrote:
So our deadline was 100% to save Lacob money
Looks like it. But look at it this way. Getting read of 2.5 mil that is going to now permanently rot on the bench with his playing time allocated to Mannion or Poole, but save Lacob 10 mil is a no brainer, especially for Lacob.
Oh no - I’m not disappointed in the moves individually. They were smart
Disappointed that we’re not keeping Oubre’s salary slot but that we are keeping Oubre, instead of giving our bench players more opportunity to carve out a role for next year
Mannion, Poole and Wiseman will get their minutes regardless. I don't think they have anyone else to develop. Oubre's minutes would have likely gone to Bazemore or Lee. In that case I prefer Oubre. Especially if they want to make the push into the play in game.
The play in game is not such a lock as it seemed. NO and Sacto are breathing on their necks. They are playing the next 3 games without Curry, Without him they can loose to anyone. Who knows if he is going to be out for only 3 games. The 4 games after that seems like the murderous row for the mediocre team like GS.
Where I am torn apart is between making the play in game and getting into the lottery. Doubling up on the opportunity to land in the top 4 in the draft.
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tal57 wrote:FNQ wrote:tal57 wrote:Looks like it. But look at it this way. Getting read of 2.5 mil that is going to now permanently rot on the bench with his playing time allocated to Mannion or Poole, but save Lacob 10 mil is a no brainer, especially for Lacob.
Oh no - I’m not disappointed in the moves individually. They were smart
Disappointed that we’re not keeping Oubre’s salary slot but that we are keeping Oubre, instead of giving our bench players more opportunity to carve out a role for next year
Mannion, Poole and Wiseman will get their minutes regardless. I don't think they have anyone else to develop. Oubre's minutes would have likely gone to Bazemore or Lee. In that case I prefer Oubre. Especially if they want to make the push into the play in game.
The play in game is not such a lock as it seemed. NO and Sacto are breathing on their necks. They are playing the next 3 games without Curry, Without him they can loose to anyone. Who knows if he is going to be out for only 3 games. The 4 games after that seems like the murderous row for the mediocre team like GS.
Where I am torn apart is between making the play in game and getting into the lottery. Doubling up on the opportunity to land in the top 4 in the draft.
I’m fine with the idea of not trying to win, but Oubre leaving opens up a starting spot (Poole) as well as giving guys like Mulder, Lee, and JTA an extended audition for next year as depth.
I agree that we’re no lock for the playoffs and if I were to bet right now, I’d say we’re on the wrong side of 50/50.
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You're not gonna see Poole as a regular starter alongside Steph Curry, it's just not gonna happen. If Poole is a starter-level player, and he may well be, I think you are more likely to see him traded than start in a backcourt with Curry.
And the roster is never going to be manipulated with the aim of getting Mulder, Lee, or JTA more minutes. They are there just to plug holes.
And the roster is never going to be manipulated with the aim of getting Mulder, Lee, or JTA more minutes. They are there just to plug holes.
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Twinkie defense wrote:You're not gonna see Poole as a regular starter alongside Steph Curry, it's just not gonna happen. If Poole is a starter-level player, and he may well be, I think you are more likely to see him traded than start in a backcourt with Curry.
And the roster is never going to be manipulated with the aim of getting Mulder, Lee, or JTA more minutes. They are there just to plug holes.
If you are going to use him as trade bait, no better situation than putting the two highest gravity healthy Warriors together
At least the trio above fit with the roster / have contributed more than the guy we kept and are likely not to re-sign.. but who knows, maybe our FO can’t see how poorly Oubre fits
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Twinkie defense wrote:Commodor wrote:FNQ wrote:
If they do, they jump right back into the tax. Anyone they sign will cost 4x their salary.. so I doubt it.
Was thinking JTA gets one spot.
The other is for DPE flexibility if anyone comes along, but may not be used.
Juan Toscano already has a roster spot, don't need to trade anyone to keep him on the roster this season.
I thought he was still on 2-way deal.
If not him I believe Manion could be eligible for an upgrade to full time roster spot too. Could be wrong though.
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Commodor wrote:Twinkie defense wrote:Commodor wrote:
Was thinking JTA gets one spot.
The other is for DPE flexibility if anyone comes along, but may not be used.
Juan Toscano already has a roster spot, don't need to trade anyone to keep him on the roster this season.
I thought he was still on 2-way deal.
If not him I believe Manion could be eligible for an upgrade to full time roster spot too. Could be wrong though.
JTA and Mannon on 2 ways. These moves better be to put us in play with our DPE. I’d hate to see us just waste this chance to improve.
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It seems that two things worked against us making a more significant move today:
1) No one really wanted to entertain a deal without getting one of our young assets or picks. Other GMs kind of have to know that GSW is facing pressure re: Curry's window and can't really load up a team with Wiseman and two first round picks next year. Why let us off the hook in a trade without one of those assets today when they kind of know we will be putting one of those assets into play next year.
2) I think Myers is reading the Oubre terrain and via the offers he fielded & decided that if no one else was really willing to invest something of value in securing Kelly Oubre's bird rights that there might not be a lot of teams lining up to pay him 4 years at $20M after this erratic season either
If they can bring him back on a shorter deal than Wiggins then I guess he's still in play for a trade later but his value is what it is...not valuable. I guess the thinking is that with a training camp and more time to culture him up he will either be more valuable in trade or more valuable on the court, but that's continuing to put a lot of stock in our "culture" which seems to be eroding day by day.
Don't know that he passed up any good options that were ever real, but if they end up taking the cap cut in the offseason I'm gonna be kinda pissed.
1) No one really wanted to entertain a deal without getting one of our young assets or picks. Other GMs kind of have to know that GSW is facing pressure re: Curry's window and can't really load up a team with Wiseman and two first round picks next year. Why let us off the hook in a trade without one of those assets today when they kind of know we will be putting one of those assets into play next year.
2) I think Myers is reading the Oubre terrain and via the offers he fielded & decided that if no one else was really willing to invest something of value in securing Kelly Oubre's bird rights that there might not be a lot of teams lining up to pay him 4 years at $20M after this erratic season either
If they can bring him back on a shorter deal than Wiggins then I guess he's still in play for a trade later but his value is what it is...not valuable. I guess the thinking is that with a training camp and more time to culture him up he will either be more valuable in trade or more valuable on the court, but that's continuing to put a lot of stock in our "culture" which seems to be eroding day by day.
Don't know that he passed up any good options that were ever real, but if they end up taking the cap cut in the offseason I'm gonna be kinda pissed.
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I know we can't let him walk for nothing but I really don't know how I feel locking up Oublander for a long term deal. Yuk
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Sleepy51 wrote:Don't know that he passed up any good options that were ever real, but if they end up taking the cap cut in the offseason I'm gonna be kinda pissed.
There were signs that this was always the plan barring a sweetheart deal:
- when we ran out of centers, we did nothing
- rumors of Lacob being cash poor, looking for investors
- the guys we were rumored to be interested in were almost exclusively expirings
We got used to the idea that Lacob's spending was limitless, but ultimately, I think Oubre walking was the probable option all along
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FNQ wrote:Sleepy51 wrote:Don't know that he passed up any good options that were ever real, but if they end up taking the cap cut in the offseason I'm gonna be kinda pissed.
There were signs that this was always the plan barring a sweetheart deal:
- when we ran out of centers, we did nothing
- rumors of Lacob being cash poor, looking for investors
- the guys we were rumored to be interested in were almost exclusively expirings
We got used to the idea that Lacob's spending was limitless, but ultimately, I think Oubre walking was the probable option all along
If they really wanted to save money they would have traded him for picks instead of keeping him.
They may be setting themselves up to add a buyout player with the dpe but time will tell
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FNQ wrote:Sleepy51 wrote:Don't know that he passed up any good options that were ever real, but if they end up taking the cap cut in the offseason I'm gonna be kinda pissed.
There were signs that this was always the plan barring a sweetheart deal:
- when we ran out of centers, we did nothing
- rumors of Lacob being cash poor, looking for investors
- the guys we were rumored to be interested in were almost exclusively expirings
We got used to the idea that Lacob's spending was limitless, but ultimately, I think Oubre walking was the probable option all along
If they really wanted to save money they would have traded him for 2nd round picks instead of keeping him.
They may be setting themselves up to add a buyout player with the dpe but time will tell
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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whatisacenter wrote:FNQ wrote:Sleepy51 wrote:Don't know that he passed up any good options that were ever real, but if they end up taking the cap cut in the offseason I'm gonna be kinda pissed.
There were signs that this was always the plan barring a sweetheart deal:
- when we ran out of centers, we did nothing
- rumors of Lacob being cash poor, looking for investors
- the guys we were rumored to be interested in were almost exclusively expirings
We got used to the idea that Lacob's spending was limitless, but ultimately, I think Oubre walking was the probable option all along
If they really wanted to save money they would have traded him for picks instead of keeping him.
They may be setting themselves up to add a buyout player with the dpe but time will tell
Only 2 teams had the ability to do that. One got Fournier, who's better. And the other has a lot of wings and just invested a top 10 pick in a player very similar to Oubre. Toppin, Barrett, Bullock, Burks.. the Knicks just didnt have the need. And is Oubre going to pick up the system in NYK quickly? Thibs would murder him
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Bob myers getting murdered by his GM peers lmao. Nobody will deal with us unless Curry is traded or retired.. Light years ahead umm
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cpower wrote:Bob myers getting murdered by his GM peers lmao. Nobody will deal with us unless Curry is traded or retired.. Light years ahead umm
Well....the only players I wanted were Nikola and Oladipo. The rest in trash.
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