Timberwolves vs Warriors - Game 5 - Cancun time?

[Onus]

It wasn't though. Anyone who actually watched Jimmy and not the nostalgic idea of playoff Jimmy from 3 years ago saw it. I warped on this alot, I think cdm did as well. He was always going to be a small ball 4 in our system.

But he can’t even guard Randle. It’s not even guarding ant it’s guarding anyone that has size on him. He struggled against Paulo. He struggled against Gordon. He wanted no part of guarding Randle. How can he be a 4 when he can’t guard 4s.

I still think he's a smaer and good positional defender, even at the 4 and vs some 3s, especially with help defenders (which we lack)Defensively, the wing spot on this team has always been the most difficult and hardest position to fill and play. I think kerr realized early that Jimmy couldn't fill that role, yet needed him on the floor. Our sf has to be able to switch 1 through 4 and be able to cover alot ground and needs to synergize with dray. That's what they will be hunting for in the off season.

It’s going to have to be done by trade. I don’t think there’s anyone in free agency that could do it. Which makes it harder because we have to willing to trade jk and that team has to want jk.

[Crazy-Canuck]

still want Johnson who can avg 22 with us and Curry can relax in regular season. Wiggins dont help your offense in playoffs

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.

too much pressure on steph again. they would again blitz him crazy and he will be 38...CAM will make Green much useful too.

Cam is another 4, part time 3. He cant start at sg. You can't start Jimmy at sg. And Cam is another on ball defender and not a help defender. Give me a wing that can guard 1 - 4 rather than a 3/4 hybrid. Although the shooting would absolutely make a difference next to Jimmy, dray, and probably podz. But man we'd be small with no athleticism.

[cpower]

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.

too much pressure on steph again. they would again blitz him crazy and he will be 38...CAM will make Green much useful too.

We have seen What happens with 3 elite shooters. That’s why I’d be happy to go get Beasley as well.

i just think we will need a good enough offensive player to score 20 in playoffs so that Steph does not have to carry too much. CAM 20, Curry 23, Butler 18 would be good enough to anchor a playoff offense. Hield Podz can get 10-15 each and you will have yourself a contender.

[Onus]

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.

too much pressure on steph again. they would again blitz him crazy and he will be 38...CAM will make Green much useful too.

Cam is another 4, part time 3. He cant start at sg. You can't start Jimmy at sg. And Cam is another on ball defender and not a help defender. Give me a wing that can guard 1 - 4 rather than a 3/4 hybrid. Although the shooting would absolutely make a difference next to Jimmy, dray, and probably podz. But man we'd be small with no athleticism.

Really it’s probably og that we want in a dream scenario. Smh How long will it take for Carter Bryant to be ready? Haha

[Crazy-Canuck]

But he can’t even guard Randle. It’s not even guarding ant it’s guarding anyone that has size on him. He struggled against Paulo. He struggled against Gordon. He wanted no part of guarding Randle. How can he be a 4 when he can’t guard 4s.

I still think he's a smaer and good positional defender, even at the 4 and vs some 3s, especially with help defenders (which we lack)Defensively, the wing spot on this team has always been the most difficult and hardest position to fill and play. I think kerr realized early that Jimmy couldn't fill that role, yet needed him on the floor. Our sf has to be able to switch 1 through 4 and be able to cover alot ground and needs to synergize with dray. That's what they will be hunting for in the off season.

It’s going to have to be done by trade. I don’t think there’s anyone in free agency that could do it. Which makes it harder because we have to willing to trade jk and that team has to want jk.

Yeah, that would be my plan A.

Look for any gettable wing that can shoot and defend 1-4. Then try to extend jk based on those wings available to sign and trade.

There's really no other way to get it done. Unless moody takes a leap or we get lucky in the draft.

Imo, that's the one missing piece to give steph another run at a chip next year.

[cpower]

But he helps your defense. And really Steph can handle the offense. Maybe not for 82 games but definitely in the playoffs.

I mean either or works for me. But if we get cam we’d need a way to lessen the load on dray as well. Dray needs to be used in spurts. His no offense kills our offense.

too much pressure on steph again. they would again blitz him crazy and he will be 38...CAM will make Green much useful too.

Cam is another 4, part time 3. He cant start at sg. You can't start Jimmy at sg. And Cam is another on ball defender and not a help defender. Give me a wing that can guard 1 - 4 rather than a 3/4 hybrid. Although the shooting would absolutely make a difference next to Jimmy, dray, and probably podz. But man we'd be small with no athleticism.

we will be fine. We can now play Curry Hield Butler CAM Green or Podz if you want more defense. I cant find a team that can match with this on both side of the floor

[Romulus]

This roster needs a major over-haul. Staying pat should not be an option. Moves need to be made. Everyone should be available not named Steph and Jimmy.

Now, will they actually do anything? Knowing this FO, color me very skeptical.

[Ilovethebay]

Heat fans would probably trade wiggins for Beal.

That’s crazy

Its reality… He was bad on Warriors too in last seasons. Two seasons in a row we played way better w/o him.

Crazy how people don't know this. He a had a worse +- than everyone’s least favorite player this year. And he was paid 3 x as much at that. We can do better.

[Crazy-Canuck]

This roster needs a major over-haul. Staying pat should not be an option. Moves need to be made. Everyone should be available not named Steph and Jimmy.

Now, will they actually do anything? Knowing this FO, color me very skeptical.

They just pulled off a blockbuster trade mid season.

[Onus]

I still think he's a smaer and good positional defender, even at the 4 and vs some 3s, especially with help defenders (which we lack)Defensively, the wing spot on this team has always been the most difficult and hardest position to fill and play. I think kerr realized early that Jimmy couldn't fill that role, yet needed him on the floor. Our sf has to be able to switch 1 through 4 and be able to cover alot ground and needs to synergize with dray. That's what they will be hunting for in the off season.

It’s going to have to be done by trade. I don’t think there’s anyone in free agency that could do it. Which makes it harder because we have to willing to trade jk and that team has to want jk.

Yeah, that would be my plan A.

Look for any gettable wing that can shoot and defend 1-4. Then try to extend jk based on those wings available to sign and trade.

There's really no other way to get it done. Unless moody takes a leap or we get lucky in the draft.

Imo, that's the one missing piece to give steph another run at a chip next year.

What’s weird is that usually it’s not the point of attack defense that we rely on it’s the help and not getting over powered that is most important. But not being able to contain Randle so dray could roam was an issue since dray was needed to guard Randle. That was really the biggest issue which is why Kerr was starting tjd on Randle. But tjd is terrible. I wonder if key would’ve been able to handle him to allow Jimmy help the helper. That’s Jimmys best asset on defense.

[BayAreaDub]

Jimmy clearly ill still, no Steph

It is what it is. Just sucks bc this wolves team was so beatable.

Offseason time!

[powerball1373]

S&T Kuminga to bring Wiggins back... who says no?

Probably the heat. But I would do that in a heartbeat. Seriously need someone like Wiggins who can guard ant or Randle

Jimmy was asking out going into the season. Rumors were a deal centered around CP3 contract + Kuminga for Butler. Warriors did not want to pursue and focused on Paul George which fell through. Then near the deadline they traded Wiggins for Butler because we needed to include a large contract.

It would have cost significantly more than CP3+Kuminga for Jimmy going into the season. The Warriors were only able to get him for relatively cheap because he totally tanked his trade value.

[Crazy-Canuck]

It’s going to have to be done by trade. I don’t think there’s anyone in free agency that could do it. Which makes it harder because we have to willing to trade jk and that team has to want jk.

Yeah, that would be my plan A.

Look for any gettable wing that can shoot and defend 1-4. Then try to extend jk based on those wings available to sign and trade.

There's really no other way to get it done. Unless moody takes a leap or we get lucky in the draft.

Imo, that's the one missing piece to give steph another run at a chip next year.

What’s weird is that usually it’s not the point of attack defense that we rely on it’s the help and not getting over powered that is most important. But not being able to contain Randle so dray could roam was an issue since dray was needed to guard Randle. That was really the biggest issue which is why Kerr was starting tjd on Randle. But tjd is terrible. I wonder if key would’ve been able to handle him to allow Jimmy help the helper. That’s Jimmys best asset on defense.

Very true. You are starting to read like cdm .

It's not the poa, it was wiggins and drays ability to switch and help that allowed the Warriors to match up with everyone. Have to hope an off season for Jimmy can help him develop that synergy and regain the athleticism to be switchable. That would be huge. Then a guy like cam johnson would be ideal.

[vvoland]

It’s going to have to be done by trade. I don’t think there’s anyone in free agency that could do it. Which makes it harder because we have to willing to trade jk and that team has to want jk.

Yeah, that would be my plan A.

Look for any gettable wing that can shoot and defend 1-4. Then try to extend jk based on those wings available to sign and trade.

There's really no other way to get it done. Unless moody takes a leap or we get lucky in the draft.

Imo, that's the one missing piece to give steph another run at a chip next year.

What’s weird is that usually it’s not the point of attack defense that we rely on it’s the help and not getting over powered that is most important. But not being able to contain Randle so dray could roam was an issue since dray was needed to guard Randle. That was really the biggest issue which is why Kerr was starting tjd on Randle. But tjd is terrible. I wonder if key would’ve been able to handle him to allow Jimmy help the helper. That’s Jimmys best asset on defense.

I wanted to see more jk on randle but the way he was shooting the 3 and finishing through contact, it may not have mattered. Jk did well enough against ant, at times, that we had some hope defensively but randle tore us a new one, again. Not a good series from dray and there will come a time where that decision will be the most immediate one. Might be as soon as this summer.

Obviously the biggest issue was the hammy. We might sweep if Steph wasn't hurt. But beyond that, it's Jimmy that was the problem, not randle. If he was hurt, sick, or both. Fine, just double bad luck. If this is the Jimmy we'll see the next two years, this trade went from a home run to a single, overnight.

[Crazy-Canuck]

The was kerrs first ever loss at the hands of a gentleman's sweep? Impressive considering his tenure.

[vvoland]

If I said we'd get 54 points from JK and podz on >50% shooting and 7/15 from 3, we'd all like our chances. Unfortunately, Jimmy took 11 shots in 41 minutes and buddy looked like he never made out of California.

To really hammer the point home, the wolves shot 63% from the field. It wasn't our night and we all knew it the minute Steph started grabbing the back of his thigh. At least it wasn't an Achilles or ACL.

[ILOVEIT]

I absolutely hate the fact that Podz had a good shooting game. I'm guessing that half of the makes came when the team was already down 20 lol.

Kuminga showed up in the minutes he was given. Podz and Buddy are really a joke if you consider how often they actually show up. Yes Buddy helped win game 7 and game one. But he's clearly unreliable.

[ILOVEIT]

Let's not no forget that AGE was a huge factor .... and Warriors will be older next year. Currry pulled the hammy for the first time in his career. Draymond got worse as the post season went on. When he lashes out, it's because he's being owned.

I pray that Jimmy was hurt. 11 shots in an elimination game????!!!

[brandon87]

Dubs in 6 without the Curry injury but that's life. To me it still all goes back to Houston game 5, that was the original sin that set the dominoes in motion.

Anyway, congrats, Wolves! Arooooooooooooooo

Dubs in 5 likely, this Wolves team is the worst team I’ve ever seen make the West finals since last years Wolves team that made it to the West finals.

[Zvaart]

unfortunate.