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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#2381 » by Little Digger » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:26 am

Mylie10 wrote:Let’s look at this for a minute.

Love played 56 games this year. 32 minutes per game.

Shot 45% from the field even though he took 7 threes per game. He shot nearly 38% from 3, on those 7 attempts per. 85% from the line which is money.

Almost 10 rebounds per game. 18 points. 3.5 assists.

I’d imagine his assists would go up here with Steph and Klay shooting the ball.

The defense would be rough, and he literally blocks no shots. But rebounding is an important stat for us and he’s a fantastic passer to start the break. Him and Draymond are both great passers to start breaks.

We’d still need to add another defensive center, but the starting lineup would score on everyone.





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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#2382 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:42 am

Mylie10 wrote:Let’s look at this for a minute.

Love played 56 games this year. 32 minutes per game.

Shot 45% from the field even though he took 7 threes per game. He shot nearly 38% from 3, on those 7 attempts per. 85% from the line which is money.

Almost 10 rebounds per game. 18 points. 3.5 assists.

I’d imagine his assists would go up here with Steph and Klay shooting the ball.

The defense would be rough, and he literally blocks no shots. But rebounding is an important stat for us and he’s a fantastic passer to start the break. Him and Draymond are both great passers to start breaks.

We’d still need to add another defensive center, but the starting lineup would score on everyone.


Love's rebounding has slipped a ton in the only area it really matters, on offense. He was close to 5orb per 36 to start his career and now he's barely over 1. For perspective Curry got 1orb per 36 last year.
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Post#2383 » by whatisacenter » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:19 am

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just to be clear I don't believe this is legit at all. I just thought it was funny on friday the 13th.
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Post#2384 » by Mylie10 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:55 am

Might as well be April’s Fools
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Post#2385 » by cdubbz » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:49 am

If the Suns are targeting CP3 we don’t have a shot at Kelly Oubre
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Post#2386 » by jamesnamida » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:58 am

cdubbz wrote:If the Suns are targeting CP3 we don’t have a shot at Kelly Oubre

Oubre needs to be in LA or NYC for that modeling career.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#2387 » by Mylie10 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:51 am

cdubbz wrote:If the Suns are targeting CP3 we don’t have a shot at Kelly Oubre


Well the rumor to the rumor said that OKC wasn’t interested in taking back Rubio and Oubre in the real to match money.

So the thought would be for GS to offer up the TPE to make the deal, and GS would ask for #10 for going to the trouble of the cost and Oubre is a one year rental.

But OKC would definitely want their number ten pick, so the rumor is crap.
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Post#2388 » by clyde21 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:18 am

softest player in the league, stay the heck away from Love, wouldn't even trade Wiggins for him
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Post#2389 » by azwfan » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:18 am

Mylie10 wrote:
cdubbz wrote:If the Suns are targeting CP3 we don’t have a shot at Kelly Oubre


Well the rumor to the rumor said that OKC wasn’t interested in taking back Rubio and Oubre in the real to match money.

So the thought would be for GS to offer up the TPE to make the deal, and GS would ask for #10 for going to the trouble of the cost and Oubre is a one year rental.

But OKC would definitely want their number ten pick, so the rumor is crap.

I'd take Rubio and a future 1st if OKC takes Smiley.

OKC out:
CP3

OKC in:
Oubre
Smiley
Why: OKC saves a ton of money and takes a flier on Oubre

PHX out:
Rubio
Oubre
2024 FRP

PHX in:
CP3

Why: Going for playoff push with CP3.

GSW out:
Smiley

GSW* in:
Rubio (17m, 17m)
PHX 2024 FRP

GSW why: Rubio is a playoff rotation quality player and would be one of the best backup PGs in the league. Our backcourt is all of a sudden the best in the league (not just the best starters). The future 1st is to open up more trade possibilities in the future.

Draft Wiseman.

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Post#2390 » by clyde21 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:45 am

i would approach Phoenix:

#2 + Andrew Wiggins/Kevon Looney

for

#10 + Cam Johnson/Kelly Oubre

only question is if there is anyone at 2 that Phoenix would fall in love with
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Post#2391 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:58 pm

Why are so many people including Smiley in their trade proposals? He's not worth much on the cap or on the floor at the moment, but why not send out a 2nd round pick instead of the development project the team has invested 2 2nd round picks and 2 years on?
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Post#2392 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:16 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
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Total BS lol


just to be clear I don't believe this is legit at all. I just thought it was funny on friday the 13th.


COULD THIS BE RELATED TO A SIMMONS TRADE???

Think of it....Warriors can not have both Simmons and Draymond on the Warriors.

So if they are going to bring in Simmons, moving Draymond as part of that trade or in addition to that (instead sending Wiggins and #2 pick for Simmons).

Curry, Klay, Simmons, Love, Marc Gasol (MLE)

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Post#2393 » by azwfan » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:25 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:Why are so many people including Smiley in their trade proposals? He's not worth much on the cap or on the floor at the moment, but why not send out a 2nd round pick instead of the development project the team has invested 2 2nd round picks and 2 years on?

Cause in the age of Covid roster spots are important and frankly he’s a waste of a roster spot. Save ownership a tiny bit of money and move on. The 2nd rd picks are sunk cost.
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Post#2394 » by jason bourne » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:21 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Might as well be April’s Fools


What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#2395 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:44 pm

azwfan wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:Why are so many people including Smiley in their trade proposals? He's not worth much on the cap or on the floor at the moment, but why not send out a 2nd round pick instead of the development project the team has invested 2 2nd round picks and 2 years on?

Cause in the age of Covid roster spots are important and frankly he’s a waste of a roster spot. Save ownership a tiny bit of money and move on. The 2nd rd picks are sunk cost.


I don't think it's a good idea to throw away development players for 1 of 17 roster spots. Good teams stay good by developing players and by getting lucky in finding cheap young players other teams give up on too quickly.

Teams generally don't play much more than 12 players big minutes during the season, that leaves 5 spots for light minute development prospects.
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Post#2396 » by ChuckDurn » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:47 pm

jason bourne wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Might as well be April’s Fools


What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#2397 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pm

Lets just draft the obvious choice in Wiseman. Both our 2020 #2 and Wiggins are untradeable. So, everyone, stop with these hypotheticals and trades that won't ever go down.
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Post#2398 » by whatisacenter » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:36 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Lets just draft the obvious choice in Wiseman. Both our 2020 #2 and Wiggins are untradeable. So, everyone, stop with these hypotheticals and trades that won't ever go down.


It's a trade thread...and yes, most if not all will never happen, but it is fun to spitball.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#2399 » by vagelis » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:38 pm

ChuckDurn wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Might as well be April’s Fools


What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?


Tucker has 8m/year contract and Covington 11m/year. These are not big contracts.
So, I don't think that if they want to trade them it is to save money. Maybe they don't believe in those two players anymore.
Tucker is 35 yo and he has declined the last years.
Covington is a role player who plays good defense but has no talent in offense. Rockets may try to build a new roster around Harden
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Post#2400 » by jason bourne » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:55 pm

ChuckDurn wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Might as well be April’s Fools


What about this one? The Rockets may trade RoCo + PJ Tucker and the Bucks are interested ( probably offering Eric Bledsoe, #24). The Rox have no picks in the 2020 draft at all. Is there anyway the Ws could get one or both? Obviously, the TPE will have to come into play, but how can the Ws get either one of those players for #48 and #51? Will you deal Andrew Wiggins for both (I think it would have to be separate deals(?))

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/bucks-eyeing-robert-covington-pj-tucker/

Deep thoughts:
1. If the Rockets are trying to trade Tucker and/or Covington, it’s purely to save money, so getting Wiggins back would be the absolute last thing they would consider.
2. Related, getting Bledsoe wouldn’t save the Rockets much money (at all), and they already have Harden, Gordon, and Westbrook (at least for now) in the backcourt, so why would they trade 2 frontcourt starters for another player going into an already crowded backcourt?
3. The Rockets would trade Covington/Tucker to whoever made the best offer, and you’d have to be an idiot to think none of the other 28 teams would offer something better than #48 and/or #51.

A serious question - when you think about trades to make with other teams, do you take even 2 seconds to consider what that other team is trying to accomplish? And do you consider what other teams might try to do to offer a better package than the Warriors?


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