Trade Oubre PRONTO.

[marthafokker]

I really only want to see Oubre and Dray on the court together if its at the 4/5.

It's time for Oubre to go to the bench, and play a bit more PF. Those two switches should help get his rhythm back. Playing against more backups, not getting in stephs way, and playing at a position he has a clear attacking advantage at.

As for Dray, i think he's been bad enough on offense that he also needs more time shifting up a position. His entire career our "winning" time has been with him at center, and his two best season he played like 20% of the regular season at center as well. Now we spend the regular season "saving" his body for the playoffs... but we don't have that luxury this year.

This really isn't rocket science...

- Move Oubre to the bench and free up time for Lee and Bazemore.
- More Oubre at the 4.
- More Dray at the 5.
- Oubre please stop shooting corner 3s.
- Wiggins please stop shooting midrange 2s.

We don't know the non-rocket science part.
1. Is Kerr too stubborn to change?
2. Maybe Kerr thinks management wants him to keep starting Oubre? IMO, that would be stupid if Kerr did not ask management.
3. Management ordered Kerr to keep starting Oubre.

So the drama will keep going until Oubre/Green lineup is changed. Or Oubre/Green suddenly forces teams to stop raping Curry.

[TB]

I really only want to see Oubre and Dray on the court together if its at the 4/5.

It's time for Oubre to go to the bench, and play a bit more PF. Those two switches should help get his rhythm back. Playing against more backups, not getting in stephs way, and playing at a position he has a clear attacking advantage at.

As for Dray, i think he's been bad enough on offense that he also needs more time shifting up a position. His entire career our "winning" time has been with him at center, and his two best season he played like 20% of the regular season at center as well. Now we spend the regular season "saving" his body for the playoffs... but we don't have that luxury this year.

This really isn't rocket science...

- Move Oubre to the bench and free up time for Lee and Bazemore.
- More Oubre at the 4.
- More Dray at the 5.
- Oubre please stop shooting corner 3s.
- Wiggins please stop shooting midrange 2s.

We don't know the non-rocket science part.
1. Is Kerr too stubborn to change?
2. Maybe Kerr thinks management wants him to keep starting Oubre? IMO, that would be stupid if Kerr did not ask management.
3. Management ordered Kerr to keep starting Oubre.

So the drama will keep going until Oubre/Green lineup is changed. Or Oubre/Green suddenly forces teams to stop raping Curry.

Number 2 and 3 are definitely not reality. I'm almost sure neither of those are true.

1, maybe, but I think Kerr is just really into trying to keep players chin up and thinking that they are being rewarded for effort. He doesn't want to punish Oubre for a shooting slump nor does he want Oubre to go into more of a spiral from being benched.

I don't agree with it, and I think it does Oubre more harm staying in the lineup playing awful, but thats just my guess for how Kerr sees it. He's hoping to build his confidence up without benching him.

[sonnyhill]

Fascinating thread.

Oubre is both frustrating, yet, also pretty intriguing: Oubre's offensive game in the half-court set, especially when he is on the perimeter, hurts the team; Oubre's defense, transition game, finishing around the basket, are all positives.

Board brothers and sisters, is it feasible to see Oubre play the "stretch 4" position as a more athletic, quicker, longer, and (dare I say) better offensive player than Draymond (hard for me to ask this question, as Draymond has been my personal favorite Warrior to watch play)?

Definitely not. Firstly, Oubre isn't a "stretch" anything. Teams leave him wide open for a reason. Its nice that he's hit a few lately but he's still a liability out there until proven otherwise.

Also this absolutely would kill our ball movement and defense. Draymond can defend bigger fours and some fives extremely well, Oubre is best against guards and smaller wings. Draymond plays a pivotal role as our secondary playmaker, Oubre is a black hole.

While the idea would potentially allow us to get another shooter on the floor it would kill us on both sides of the ball.

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Your analysis makes lots of sense and leads me to ask the following:

1. What was the reasoning behind trading for Oubre?

2. Did, Bob Myers react out of fear (with Klay's injury) and make a poor decision?

3. Should Myers have waited until the season had started to potentially pick up a better shooter?

I, personally, like Oubre's motor, but am having a difficult time seeing how he fits into the lineup.

Oubre, with the small ball lineup, looked good at the stretch 4 last night vs the Mavs. With space and an open lane, Oubre has a role in a small ball lineup. He also demonstrated an ability to play tenacious defense and block out so that larger power forwards are not destroying the Warriors on rebounds.

My question is how does he fit in when Wiseman, Looney, and Paschall return?

[ILOVEIT]

Hate to admit it....but I THINK he's actually starting to get how to play in the Warriors system.

In fact...and don't hate me for this...I'm starting to get that twinkle in the brain of "can he actually be better than Wiggins????"

I know...I know...next game will completely cure me of this insanity.

[sonnyhill]

Hate to admit it....but I THINK he's actually starting to get how to play in the Warriors system.

In fact...and don't hate me for this...I'm starting to get that twinkle in the brain of "can he actually be better than Wiggins????"

I know...I know...next game will completely cure me of this insanity.

The whole "Oubre vs Wiggins" discussion is amusing; however, they are different types of players. The real question, in my mind, is "will Steve Kerr be able to adapt-adjust his system so that the team can optimize both Oubre and Wiggins?"

During the regular season, a small ball lineup can disrupt other teams, especially the first time that the teams meet in a season. In a playoff series, teams adjust (watch how the Lakers dismantled the Rockets when Houston had gone to a small ball lineup in the bubble) and the small ball lineup gets exposed.

[tarantism]

Its the Oubre shell game. He has games that flash great talent but he doesn't have the basketball brain to put it together consistently.

Obviously it would be great if he can mold himself into the guy that we need him to be. Passing up shots like he was last night was encouraging. I'm just not holding my breath, nor do I think its prudent to buy back in after one hot shooting night.

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[Old_Blue]

I hear a whole lot of trade Oubre talk. But, I don't hear much talk of who we can reasonably expect to get in return.

[tarantism]

I hear a whole lot of trade Oubre talk. But, I don't hear much talk of who we can reasonably expect to get in return.

Because those expectations vary wildly depending on if he's having one of his 9 bad games or 1 good one.

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[Old_Blue]

I hear a whole lot of trade Oubre talk. But, I don't hear much talk of who we can reasonably expect to get in return.

Because those expectations vary wildly depending on if he's having one of his 9 bad games or 1 good one.

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From now on, I'm referring to Oubre as "GameStop." The moniker works on many levels.

[TB]

I hear a whole lot of trade Oubre talk. But, I don't hear much talk of who we can reasonably expect to get in return.

Because those expectations vary wildly depending on if he's having one of his 9 bad games or 1 good one.

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From now on, I'm referring to Oubre as "GameStop." The moniker works on many levels.

Very well played.

To me, the Oubre trade is only as filler attached with Wiseman and/or Minny pick for someone like Beal. So its not really about expecting anything from Oubre, its about the pick and Wiseman.

The only trade ive seen involving Oubre as the "main piece" was the Lonzo rumor, but I cant possibly see Pelicans agreeing to that. And I have no desire to add any picks to someone on that level.

[Old_Blue]

Since Charlotte is now starting LaMelo, how about Oubre and our 2022 second round pick for Terry Rozier? He's signed through next year and could likely be flipped for a first round pick.

[floppymoose]

I gotta have a full season of KO. I think he can help us.

[Sleepy51]

I gotta have a full season of KO. I think he can help us.

He is going to set all our s on fire and shoot us in the butt cheek. Watch.

[floppymoose]

Well, either way he'll be gone after this year.

[vetmin]

I gotta have a full season of KO. I think he can help us.

Maybe he will steadily improve, but I still say trade him for a better fit, ideally someone we could hang on to for next season, like Lonzo.

[TrueFan420]

I gotta have a full season of KO. I think he can help us.

Maybe he will steadily improve, but I still say trade him for a better fit, ideally someone we could hang on to for next season, like Lonzo.

Lonzo is RFA. Oubre we have bird rights and could essentially match any offer he receives as long as he wants to stay. There’s not much difference contract wise. Player wise is much rather have Oubre than Lonzo.

[azwfan]

I gotta have a full season of KO. I think he can help us.

Maybe he will steadily improve, but I still say trade him for a better fit, ideally someone we could hang on to for next season, like Lonzo.

Lonzo is RFA. Oubre we have bird rights and could essentially match any offer he receives as long as he wants to stay. There’s not much difference contract wise. Player wise is much rather have Oubre than Lonzo.

I think i'd rather have Lonzo's playmaking than Oubre's... whatever.

[bwgood77]

Definitely not. Firstly, Oubre isn't a "stretch" anything. Teams leave him wide open for a reason. Its nice that he's hit a few lately but he's still a liability out there until proven otherwise.

Also this absolutely would kill our ball movement and defense. Draymond can defend bigger fours and some fives extremely well, Oubre is best against guards and smaller wings. Draymond plays a pivotal role as our secondary playmaker, Oubre is a black hole.

While the idea would potentially allow us to get another shooter on the floor it would kill us on both sides of the ball.

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Your analysis makes lots of sense and leads me to ask the following:

1. What was the reasoning behind trading for Oubre?

2. Did, Bob Myers react out of fear (with Klay's injury) and make a poor decision?

3. Should Myers have waited until the season had started to potentially pick up a better shooter?

I, personally, like Oubre's motor, but am having a difficult time seeing how he fits into the lineup.

Oubre, with the small ball lineup, looked good at the stretch 4 last night vs the Mavs. With space and an open lane, Oubre has a role in a small ball lineup. He also demonstrated an ability to play tenacious defense and block out so that larger power forwards are not destroying the Warriors on rebounds.

My question is how does he fit in when Wiseman, Looney, and Paschall return?

With the Suns last year, we originally started Oubre at the 3 and Saric at the 4. We ended up not being very good with that lineup. Later we tried Bridges at the 3 (previously he came off the bench) and Oubre at the 4 and ended up having a pretty absurd net rating with that lineup.

I think he plays best as a small ball 4. Now I wouldn't play him over Draymond but maybe when one of Draymond or Wiseman is at the 5, play Oubre at the 4, things may work better.

Overall, I wasn't much of an Oubre fan. Like others say, I liked his motor and energy, but he had a low bbiq and no court vision. He'd often drive against multiple defenders in the paint. He was a lot better 3 pt shooter last year overall though.

[TrueFan420]

Maybe he will steadily improve, but I still say trade him for a better fit, ideally someone we could hang on to for next season, like Lonzo.

Lonzo is RFA. Oubre we have bird rights and could essentially match any offer he receives as long as he wants to stay. There’s not much difference contract wise. Player wise is much rather have Oubre than Lonzo.

I think i'd rather have Lonzo's playmaking than Oubre's... whatever.

I’d rather the length and defensive presence of Oubre. He isn’t perfect but he’s improving.

[vetmin]

I gotta have a full season of KO. I think he can help us.

Maybe he will steadily improve, but I still say trade him for a better fit, ideally someone we could hang on to for next season, like Lonzo.

Lonzo is RFA. Oubre we have bird rights and could essentially match any offer he receives as long as he wants to stay. There’s not much difference contract wise. Player wise is much rather have Oubre than Lonzo.

I didn’t mean to imply that we couldn’t retain Oubre if we wanted (though he may prefer a starting role elsewhere next year; he wouldn’t have one here with Klay back), just that he isn’t the ideal player, so we should trade for someone who is closer to that, as long as that player can definitely be retained next season. Lonzo is much better for the way GSW wants to play than Oubre. He’d be a fantastic 6th man next year.