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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#241 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 5:08 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Seems like posters are looking at players who will go before the Warriors pick in the 2nd round...Y'all think they are going to trade up?


No, if anything they trade out.
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Post#242 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 5:10 pm

Onus wrote:Damn can kalkbrenner become kornet?


I think Raynaud is the potential stretch 5 they could look at. Better than Post all around, if he shoots.
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Post#243 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 5:17 pm

I actually like what I saw from Hansen Yang. He's big, passes and is physical. Maybe he can shoot too. Might be an interesting legit 5 for us.
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Post#244 » by vvoland » Thu May 15, 2025 5:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:Damn can kalkbrenner become kornet?


I think Raynaud is the potential stretch 5 they could look at. Better than Post all around, if he shoots.


Let's just go get Kornet. Another low risk move that will (probably) be available.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#245 » by TB » Thu May 15, 2025 5:34 pm

EvanZ wrote:I actually like what I saw from Hansen Yang. He's big, passes and is physical. Maybe he can shoot too. Might be an interesting legit 5 for us.


I like Yang and Yanic Konan as 2nd round bigs. They are different types of centers, but I think both can be NBA players. I’d maybe lean Konan who is a bit more plug and play even though Yang has higher upside due to his crazy skill level. But Yang also might be the type of player you need to run stuff through in order to get the benefit of him on the court, and he will need to be very good to warrant that.
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Post#246 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 7:14 pm

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EvanZ wrote:I actually like what I saw from Hansen Yang. He's big, passes and is physical. Maybe he can shoot too. Might be an interesting legit 5 for us.


I like Yang and Yanic Konan as 2nd round bigs. They are different types of centers, but I think both can be NBA players. I’d maybe lean Konan who is a bit more plug and play even though Yang has higher upside due to his crazy skill level. But Yang also might be the type of player you need to run stuff through in order to get the benefit of him on the court, and he will need to be very good to warrant that.


Do you notice that everyone who is ever good (meaning Kerr likes) is someone who you need to run stuff through? :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is why he just puts Moody in the corner. The whole offense is going through everyone all the time.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#247 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 7:42 pm

EvanZ wrote:
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EvanZ wrote:I actually like what I saw from Hansen Yang. He's big, passes and is physical. Maybe he can shoot too. Might be an interesting legit 5 for us.


I like Yang and Yanic Konan as 2nd round bigs. They are different types of centers, but I think both can be NBA players. I’d maybe lean Konan who is a bit more plug and play even though Yang has higher upside due to his crazy skill level. But Yang also might be the type of player you need to run stuff through in order to get the benefit of him on the court, and he will need to be very good to warrant that.


Do you notice that everyone who is ever good (meaning Kerr likes) is someone who you need to run stuff through? :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is why he just puts Moody in the corner. The whole offense is going through everyone all the time.

If you can dribble, pass, shoot and make quick decisions then the offense will run though you.

We were literally running buddy iso in game 5 of a win or go home situation.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#248 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 7:51 pm

Onus wrote:
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I like Yang and Yanic Konan as 2nd round bigs. They are different types of centers, but I think both can be NBA players. I’d maybe lean Konan who is a bit more plug and play even though Yang has higher upside due to his crazy skill level. But Yang also might be the type of player you need to run stuff through in order to get the benefit of him on the court, and he will need to be very good to warrant that.


Do you notice that everyone who is ever good (meaning Kerr likes) is someone who you need to run stuff through? :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is why he just puts Moody in the corner. The whole offense is going through everyone all the time.

If you can dribble, pass, shoot and make quick decisions then the offense will run though you.

We were literally running buddy iso in game 5 of a win or go home situation.


I mean that's my point. I think we have issues when we have guys who can't do any of those things well. But Hansen seems like he can. I don't think Post is that guy either.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#249 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 7:59 pm

EvanZ wrote:
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EvanZ wrote:
Do you notice that everyone who is ever good (meaning Kerr likes) is someone who you need to run stuff through? :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is why he just puts Moody in the corner. The whole offense is going through everyone all the time.

If you can dribble, pass, shoot and make quick decisions then the offense will run though you.

We were literally running buddy iso in game 5 of a win or go home situation.


I mean that's my point. I think we have issues when we have guys who can't do any of those things well. But Hansen seems like he can. I don't think Post is that guy either.

Yea we have Steph, Jimmy and podz that can do all of those things. And Jimmy doesn’t really make quick decisions. If we can get another one that would be great
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#250 » by TB » Thu May 15, 2025 8:08 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Do you notice that everyone who is ever good (meaning Kerr likes) is someone who you need to run stuff through? :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is why he just puts Moody in the corner. The whole offense is going through everyone all the time.

If you can dribble, pass, shoot and make quick decisions then the offense will run though you.

We were literally running buddy iso in game 5 of a win or go home situation.


I mean that's my point. I think we have issues when we have guys who can't do any of those things well. But Hansen seems like he can. I don't think Post is that guy either.


Yup you guys bring up good points, which is why he may be a fit for sure.

That being said, by the time he’s ready Kerr and the Steph system may be gone anyway.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#251 » by Onus » Thu May 15, 2025 8:24 pm

TB wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:If you can dribble, pass, shoot and make quick decisions then the offense will run though you.

We were literally running buddy iso in game 5 of a win or go home situation.


I mean that's my point. I think we have issues when we have guys who can't do any of those things well. But Hansen seems like he can. I don't think Post is that guy either.


Yup you guys bring up good points, which is why he may be a fit for sure.

That being said, by the time he’s ready Kerr and the Steph system may be gone anyway.

You can never really go wrong if a prospect can do all of that unless they’re a complete negative on defense. Though it seems like defensive negatives are becoming easier to overcome if you have smart defenders surrounding you.

I can’t say I know much about Hansen but he’s definitely intriguing as is raynaud as offensively slanted centers.

Though I’m not sure either will be ready to contribute defensively any time soon.


Though I still think we could use kalkbrenner as a rim protector just to buy dray a few minutes.
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Post#252 » by EvanZ » Thu May 15, 2025 11:56 pm

Will be interesting to see who is our starting center. We know who the closing center will be.
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Post#253 » by Onus » Fri May 16, 2025 6:21 am

EvanZ wrote:Will be interesting to see who is our starting center. We know who the closing center will be.

If we don’t bring in another center post better start. He needs to be fire hosed with defensive experience.
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Post#254 » by Onus » Fri May 16, 2025 2:08 pm

Really seems like centers might be making a come back with a lot of teams playing 2 bigs. I wonder if this pushes a lot of these centers up on draft boards.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#255 » by wco81 » Fri May 16, 2025 7:41 pm

Unlikely a SRP center would be a key starter.

Look at prospects like Kai Jones who was a FRP but bounced around different teams. For all his length and athleticism, he's probably not better than Looney to play 20 minutes or so. He may finish better, maybe even shoot from the outside better. But he doesn't know how to play team defense.

A team like the Celtics had Kornet who was a key part of their regular season rotation but not so much in the playoffs until KP proved ineffective and Queta, who hasn't played in the playoffs much at all but in the regular season, they need him for certain matchups.

So they stashed a couple of big men who have very limited roles.
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Post#256 » by Onus » Fri May 16, 2025 9:51 pm

wco81 wrote:Unlikely a SRP center would be a key starter.

Look at prospects like Kai Jones who was a FRP but bounced around different teams. For all his length and athleticism, he's probably not better than Looney to play 20 minutes or so. He may finish better, maybe even shoot from the outside better. But he doesn't know how to play team defense.

A team like the Celtics had Kornet who was a key part of their regular season rotation but not so much in the playoffs until KP proved ineffective and Queta, who hasn't played in the playoffs much at all but in the regular season, they need him for certain matchups.

So they stashed a couple of big men who have very limited roles.

Kornet just dominated and won the Celtics a game
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Post#257 » by vvoland » Sat May 17, 2025 6:50 am

Onus wrote:
wco81 wrote:Unlikely a SRP center would be a key starter.

Look at prospects like Kai Jones who was a FRP but bounced around different teams. For all his length and athleticism, he's probably not better than Looney to play 20 minutes or so. He may finish better, maybe even shoot from the outside better. But he doesn't know how to play team defense.

A team like the Celtics had Kornet who was a key part of their regular season rotation but not so much in the playoffs until KP proved ineffective and Queta, who hasn't played in the playoffs much at all but in the regular season, they need him for certain matchups.

So they stashed a couple of big men who have very limited roles.

Kornet just dominated and won the Celtics a game


It took him forever to go from the gleague unikornet to this. That's why I'm saying let's just go get the real thing than drafting someone who might be this in 7 years
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#258 » by whatisacenter » Sat May 17, 2025 6:30 pm

If the Warriors stay at 41 I think one of these players should be available.

Bogoljub Marković
Chaz Lanier
Miles Byrd
Alex Condon
Cedric Coward
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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Post#259 » by EvanZ » Sat May 17, 2025 10:19 pm

Coward is probably going Lottery the way he's being hyped up.
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Post#260 » by EvanZ » Sat May 17, 2025 10:20 pm

Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Will be interesting to see who is our starting center. We know who the closing center will be.

If we don’t bring in another center post better start. He needs to be fire hosed with defensive experience.


I just don't think he's talented enough to be a starting center for any competitive team.

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