Should the Warriors make a trade?

[whatisacenter]

It would be hard to compete with the Thunder if they are interested in Cam.

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[vvoland]

They'd be at 11 rostered players and would need to move moody for 3 min contracts or for no money back. I'm not sure the prorated min as of feb 6th,

FYI, these are the numbers.
Minimum salary cap charges from the deadline.
0 yr exp -- $438,900
1 yr exp -- $706,398
2 yr+ exp -- $791,818

Before the deadline add this per day.
pro rated for 0 yr exp -- $6,650 per day
pro rated for 1 yr exp -- $10,703 per day
pro rated for 2 yr+ exp -- $11,997 per day

So if we convert Spencer, post, and another g leaguer that would only cost us 1.3m if done at the deadline and ~1.7 if done now? Meaning, we could trade gui's 1.8 and sign 3 min deals now or 4 min deals in early Feb?

[xdrta+]

They'd be at 11 rostered players and would need to move moody for 3 min contracts or for no money back. I'm not sure the prorated min as of feb 6th,

FYI, these are the numbers.
Minimum salary cap charges from the deadline.
0 yr exp -- $438,900
1 yr exp -- $706,398
2 yr+ exp -- $791,818

Before the deadline add this per day.
pro rated for 0 yr exp -- $6,650 per day
pro rated for 1 yr exp -- $10,703 per day
pro rated for 2 yr+ exp -- $11,997 per day

So if we convert Spencer, post, and another g leaguer that would only cost us 1.3m if done at the deadline and ~1.7 if done now? Meaning, we could trade gui's 1.8 and sign 3 min deals now or 4 min deals in early Feb?

A little more. You may not have counted Spencer's one year experience (he played 6 games for the Warriors last year--even one game counts a yr exp the next year.) Would be $1.58M at the deadline and need to add in the difference per day for him to get the total now, depending when you start counting,

[Anderson Hunt]

Bulls out: LaVine, Vucevic, Lonzo Ball, Patrick Williams, and Jevon Carter

Bulls in: Butler, Duncan Robinson, Looney, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Gary Payton, Reddish, and Jaxon Hayes

Bulls waive: Torrey Craig, Julian Phillips, and Chris Duarte

PG - Giddy - Dosunmu - Tucker
SG - White - Payton - Robinson
C --- Looney - Smith - Hayes
PF - Hachimura - Vanderbilt - Buzelis
SF - Butler - Terry - Reddish

Heat out: Butler and Duncan Robinson

Heat in: Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Gabe Vincent, and Hood-Schifino

Heat waive: Josh Richardson, Alec Burks, and Kevin Love

PG - Anderson - Vincent - Schifino
SG - Herro - Rozier - Podz
C --- Adebayo - Jovic - Ware
PF - Highsmith - Kuminga - Johnson
SF - Wiggins - Jaquez - Larsson

Warriors out: Andrew Wiggins, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Looney, Gary Payton, and Kyle Anderson

Warriors in: Lonzo Ball, Vucevic, Patrick Williams, and Christian Wood

Warriors sign: Markelle Fultz

PG - Fultz - (Ball) - Schroeder
SG - Curry - Hield - Spencer
C --- Vucevic - Davis - Wood
PF - Green - Williams - Santos
SF - Ball - Moody - Waters

Lakers out: Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, Hood-Schifino, Jaxon Hayes, Christian Wood, and Reddish.

Lakers in: LaVine and Jevon Carter

Lakers sign: Biyombo, Dwight Howard, Keita Bates-Diop, and Troy Brown Jr.

PG - Reaves - (James) - Milton
SG - Christie - Carter - James
C -- Davis - Biyombo - Howard
PF - Smith - Diop - Brown Jr.
SF - James - LaVine - Knecht

[whatisacenter]

Bulls out: LaVine, Vucevic, Lonzo Ball, Patrick Williams, and Jevon Carter

Bulls in: Butler, Duncan Robinson, Looney, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Gary Payton, Reddish, and Jaxon Hayes

Bulls waive: Torrey Craig, Julian Phillips, and Chris Duarte

PG - Giddy - Dosunmu - Tucker
SG - White - Payton - Robinson
C --- Looney - Smith - Hayes
PF - Hachimura - Vanderbilt - Buzelis
SF - Butler - Terry - Reddish

Heat out: Butler and Duncan Robinson

Heat in: Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Gabe Vincent, and Hood-Schifino

Heat waive: Josh Richardson, Alec Burks, and Kevin Love

PG - Anderson - Vincent - Schifino
SG - Herro - Rozier - Podz
C --- Adebayo - Jovic - Ware
PF - Highsmith - Kuminga - Johnson
SF - Wiggins - Jaquez - Larsson

Warriors out: Andrew Wiggins, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Looney, Gary Payton, and Kyle Anderson

Warriors in: Lonzo Ball, Vucevic, Patrick Williams, and Christian Wood

Warriors sign: Markelle Fultz

PG - Fultz - (Ball) - Schroeder
SG - Curry - Hield - Spencer
C --- Vucevic - Davis - Wood
PF - Green - Williams - Santos
SF - Ball - Moody - Waters

Lakers out: Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, Hood-Schifino, Jaxon Hayes, Christian Wood, and Reddish.

Lakers in: LaVine and Jevon Carter

Lakers sign: Biyombo, Dwight Howard, Keita Bates-Diop, and Troy Brown Jr.

PG - Reaves - (James) - Milton
SG - Christie - Carter - James
C -- Davis - Biyombo - Howard
PF - Smith - Diop - Brown Jr.
SF - James - LaVine - Knecht

I would much rather keep the Warriors players going out than receive the players coming in. No thanks.

[Jester_]

Bulls out: LaVine, Vucevic, Lonzo Ball, Patrick Williams, and Jevon Carter

Bulls in: Butler, Duncan Robinson, Looney, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Gary Payton, Reddish, and Jaxon Hayes

Bulls waive: Torrey Craig, Julian Phillips, and Chris Duarte

PG - Giddy - Dosunmu - Tucker
SG - White - Payton - Robinson
C --- Looney - Smith - Hayes
PF - Hachimura - Vanderbilt - Buzelis
SF - Butler - Terry - Reddish

Heat out: Butler and Duncan Robinson

Heat in: Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Gabe Vincent, and Hood-Schifino

Heat waive: Josh Richardson, Alec Burks, and Kevin Love

PG - Anderson - Vincent - Schifino
SG - Herro - Rozier - Podz
C --- Adebayo - Jovic - Ware
PF - Highsmith - Kuminga - Johnson
SF - Wiggins - Jaquez - Larsson

Warriors out: Andrew Wiggins, Kuminga, Podzeimski, Looney, Gary Payton, and Kyle Anderson

Warriors in: Lonzo Ball, Vucevic, Patrick Williams, and Christian Wood

Warriors sign: Markelle Fultz

PG - Fultz - (Ball) - Schroeder
SG - Curry - Hield - Spencer
C --- Vucevic - Davis - Wood
PF - Green - Williams - Santos
SF - Ball - Moody - Waters

Lakers out: Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, Hood-Schifino, Jaxon Hayes, Christian Wood, and Reddish.

Lakers in: LaVine and Jevon Carter

Lakers sign: Biyombo, Dwight Howard, Keita Bates-Diop, and Troy Brown Jr.

PG - Reaves - (James) - Milton
SG - Christie - Carter - James
C -- Davis - Biyombo - Howard
PF - Smith - Diop - Brown Jr.
SF - James - LaVine - Knecht

naw

[CDM_Stats]

Kerr and MDJ saying they want to run with this roster. It’s the correct call

Even someone like Schroder, who scratches a major itch, is going to take a while to understand how this motion offense works.. it was why it was key to get him on 12/15, to maximize the chance that he learns it. Making another trade where another person will also have to learn the same thing? Will be just as rough

Then also keep in mind that Kerr’s mentality is that throwing someone into the deep end and hoping they learn to swim… never thought that was a very effective way of teaching things quickly. Slow integration / momentum works better IMO. Using Schroder as an example, he’s more effective creating for others with drive and kick than playing off motion. So let him do what he’s good at, get confident, and slowly integrate him into motion with momentum. Build that way. I think it would help a lot considering the Hield/Curry pairing and how Schroder can start ball movement to get spot-shooting reserves wide open looks.. I just don’t think it should be this difficult to integrate them, but since it’s unlikely Kerr changes his mentality, it should take another trade off the table

[wco81]

Which would have been a better trade for the Warriors Schroeder or DFS?

DFS can't handle the ball and run the offense but he'd be another wing defender so it would make it easier to trade Wiggins if they had to.

However DFS isn't a secondary shot creator like Wiggins has been for the Warriors.

[Onus]

Which would have been a better trade for the Warriors Schroeder or DFS?

DFS can't handle the ball and run the offense but he'd be another wing defender so it would make it easier to trade Wiggins if they had to.

However DFS isn't a secondary shot creator like Wiggins has been for the Warriors.

Schroeder. Dfs wouldn’t get playing time here. He’s another 4 only and he’s probably our 5th best pf.

[Kuya]

Quit stalling and make the Vucevic trade ffs.

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[superunknown]

Quit stalling and make the Vucevic trade ffs.

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only if it's the first trade of a major shake-up.
this bunch of players except steph, wiggins and maybe green + looney is done.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I dont think any trade will fix this team until kerr fixes his mindset.

Its like he's throwing crap to the wall and seeing what sticks. None of his decisions make sense right now.

Steph at pg? Fantastic.
Wiggins at sf? Fantastic.
Jk as the 6th man? Fantastic (although that took a while).

Those are the only 3 things he has correct right now. It isn't a coincidence that they happen to be our best players.

Dray? They want to conserve him by playing next to big. Fantastic. But they have him next to a big that requires dray to do more more. He's spending alot more time on the perimeter than he should.

Tjd? Just stealing minutes. Hes been horrible at help defense, can't guard in space yet isn't a drop C either. His only value is a dunker yet he doesn't finish often enough. So what's his role? It should be on the bench as our 3rd big. People fall in love with empty boxscore stats.

Schroeder? Fantastic. Play the off steph minutes and pnr with guys like jk and tjd. Nope, let's have him pnr with dray and hope he figures out the motion on the fly..

These are kerr decisions.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Buddy Heild

0 dribbles, he has a 65% efg. But only a 55% frequency.

1+ dribble? His efg is almost cut in half. So, instead of using his gravity as a strictly spot up guy, kerr is using him like steph...with the bench. Heild is not the guy to create offense by himself. You move him around to find space. Let steph, wiggs, or dray hit him off curls and kick outs. Again, this is a kerr issue.

Is the player bad? Or is it a good player put in a bad role? I'm leaning towards the latter.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Beal got demoted to the bench. That's another overpriced potential no.2 on the market.

[HiRez]

Does the Kuminga injury make it more likely or less likely that he's traded before the deadline? Even if you don't like Kuminga, you can't seriously think his absence makes the Warriors better. Their position in the standings is already tenuous, they're currently tied for #8 in the West but could easily find themselves as low as #12 in a couple weeks.

It might force their hand into the Cam Johnson trade unless they want to write off this year as well. For all the talk of their superior depth, it's obvious they don't have much when one or two key pieces (flawed as they may be) are missing. A lot of their bench are not bad players but they look more like rookie G-Leaguers when pressed to do more than they're skills or experience are capable of.

Dubs look great when everyone's outside shot is falling like against the Sixers, but that's not going to carry them through the playoffs (or maybe even to it).

[wco81]

Beal got demoted to the bench. That's another overpriced potential no.2 on the market.

Remember a couple of years ago, before he signed that extension with the NTC, some were advocating that the Warriors trade for him.

He was winning scoring titles but Wizards were not winning a lot.

[floppymoose]

All of these players are ass

[cpower]

Kerr and MDJ saying they want to run with the worst offensive roster in the league. It’s the correct call!

[Crazy-Canuck]

Im wondering if mjd just stands pat and then extends jk to 5/175-200M in the offseason and use that as the salary ballast to go big fish hunting. Frontload that extension on a descending scale (if that's possible).

Up against the hard capped and no big salaries (dray and wiggs salaries combined are what stars are getting), we'd need to gut the roster to currently even get a guy like lavine.

[Onus]

Im wondering if mjd just stands pat and then extends jk to 5/175-200M in the offseason and use that as the salary ballast to go big fish hunting. Frontload that extension on a descending scale (if that's possible).

Up against the hard capped and no big salaries (dray and wiggs salaries combined are what stars are getting), we'd need to gut the roster to currently even get a guy like lavine.

It’s seeming more and more likely they stand pat at the deadline. Which tbf there’s not much available this deadline that attainable. Jimmy has too much salary and would gut the team. Cam j is way too expensive. Zion is the only one I’m really interested and he has a huge risk.

I don’t think jk is getting 5/200. The nets are really the only team that can sign him to an offer like that. I wonder if they get him closer to a 5/150 type deal like they wanted to.