ImageImageImageImageImage

Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2

Moderators: floppymoose, Sleepy51, Chris Porter's Hair

User avatar
cpower
RealGM
Posts: 20,620
And1: 8,455
Joined: Mar 03, 2011
   

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#241 » by cpower » Fri May 9, 2025 2:52 am

AirP. wrote:
cpower wrote:Wolves shooting 50/40 tonight. It's a pointless game when we can not defend. Steve needs to make changes or we will get blown out every night.. where is the No.1 defense in the league?

Kerr's played 14 players, there's no way to get any continuity with that many combinations on the court, it's like Kerr is using this as a preseason game (which he might be doing) but boy do I hate punting any games in the playoffs.

i dont understand it. these are role players they meant to be inconsistent. I bet you next game JK will put up 5 points. what is the point of feeling out the rotation?
Samurai
General Manager
Posts: 8,896
And1: 3,113
Joined: Jul 01, 2014
     

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#242 » by Samurai » Fri May 9, 2025 2:52 am

cpower wrote:Wolves shooting 50/40 tonight. It's a pointless game when we can not defend. Steve needs to make changes or we will get blown out every night.. where is the No.1 defense in the league?

Yeah, I can understand our problems in ball-handling and shooting because the team has been so dependent on Curry. But we are giving up too many open 3's or creating layup lines which shouldn't be affected as much by Curry's absence. Whether it is bad coaching to not have our guys prepared or just bad execution by the players or a combo of both, I don't know.
AirP.
RealGM
Posts: 36,776
And1: 32,114
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#243 » by AirP. » Fri May 9, 2025 2:53 am

WarriorGM wrote:
AirP. wrote:Question, why are ANY of the starters on the court when he's not played them all that much throughout the game?


You probably need to see the chemistry. Kuminga and Butler have not played that much. If Kuminga is going to play a role going forward you need to see how those two play together.

While risking injury with Curry already out? If you want to see chemistry hold a short practice tomorrow in GS. Despite the score, this game was winnable without the wacky lineups.
powerball1373
Veteran
Posts: 2,808
And1: 4,790
Joined: Jun 08, 2019
   

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#244 » by powerball1373 » Fri May 9, 2025 2:54 am

Upperclass wrote:Jimmy will still clock 35+minutes so this was a pointless exercise


He was just doing cardio tonight. Didn't seem like a particularly tough 35 min.
WarriorGM
General Manager
Posts: 8,870
And1: 4,207
Joined: Aug 19, 2017

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#245 » by WarriorGM » Fri May 9, 2025 2:56 am

AirP. wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
AirP. wrote:Question, why are ANY of the starters on the court when he's not played them all that much throughout the game?


You probably need to see the chemistry. Kuminga and Butler have not played that much. If Kuminga is going to play a role going forward you need to see how those two play together.

While risking injury with Curry already out? If you want to see chemistry hold a short practice tomorrow in GS. Despite the score, this game was winnable without the wacky lineups.


Practice is a poor substitute for playoffs in-game play. Even if the Warriors were to win this series, they need more than their starting lineup to go all the way.
AirP.
RealGM
Posts: 36,776
And1: 32,114
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#246 » by AirP. » Fri May 9, 2025 2:57 am

So overall, GS was -4 in Butler's 34 minutes, meaning when off the floor in 11 minutes GS was -18 (3 minutes left in the game). Luckily 14 players had played in the game before Kerr pulled the starters. It is KEY to have multiple players you can have handle the ball on the court when Butler is off the court, I'd prefer to see Draymond and Podz being those 2.
User avatar
Impuniti
General Manager
Posts: 9,885
And1: 7,809
Joined: Jan 18, 2016

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#247 » by Impuniti » Fri May 9, 2025 2:59 am

Expected big L, but there may be a few points to take into account
+ TJD, JK might be playable and good moving forward in the series. TJD came outta nowhere
- Moody sucks, cut his minutes.
- There needs to be a very short leash for GPII and Podz
- "Playoff Jimmy" Hello??.. I'd like to make a call. Can you please show up sometimes soon?


They need to win game 3 no matter what.
AirP.
RealGM
Posts: 36,776
And1: 32,114
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#248 » by AirP. » Fri May 9, 2025 3:00 am

Impuniti wrote:Expected big L, but there may be a few points to take into account
+ TJD, JK might be playable and good moving forward in the series. TJD came outta nowhere
- Moody sucks, cut his minutes.
- There needs to be a very short leash for GPII and Podz
- "Playoff Jimmy" Hello??.. I'd like to make a call. Can you please show up sometimes soon?


They need to win game 3 no matter what.

GS needs Podz to handle the ball, as bad as he's been he's a WAY better option then most on the roster.

This game was lost with Butler on the bench because nearly anyone who touched the ball couldn't handle the defensive pressure.
User avatar
floppymoose
Senior Mod - Warriors
Senior Mod - Warriors
Posts: 59,169
And1: 17,255
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
Location: Trust your election workers

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#249 » by floppymoose » Fri May 9, 2025 3:00 am

Epic beatdown. Curry IS the system.
WarriorGM
General Manager
Posts: 8,870
And1: 4,207
Joined: Aug 19, 2017

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#250 » by WarriorGM » Fri May 9, 2025 3:01 am

AirP. wrote:So overall, GS was -4 in Butler's 34 minutes, meaning when off the floor in 11 minutes GS was -18 (3 minutes left in the game). Luckily 14 players had played in the game before Kerr pulled the starters. It is KEY to have multiple players you can have handle the ball on the court when Butler is off the court, I'd prefer to see Draymond and Podz being those 2.


The -4 towards the end tends to indicate to me the concern of Kuminga and Butler together are still valid especially with someone like TJD still on the floor.
User avatar
cpower
RealGM
Posts: 20,620
And1: 8,455
Joined: Mar 03, 2011
   

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#251 » by cpower » Fri May 9, 2025 3:02 am

cpower wrote:we win if they score less than 90.

like I said , we win if they score less than 90, we have a chance if they make 95, but they scored almost 120 points...if we are not ready for playoff defense then just shut down the season save Curry for next year
User avatar
floppymoose
Senior Mod - Warriors
Senior Mod - Warriors
Posts: 59,169
And1: 17,255
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
Location: Trust your election workers

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#252 » by floppymoose » Fri May 9, 2025 3:03 am

My guess is that JK and Butler will have to discover some synergy in order to get even 1 win.
AirP.
RealGM
Posts: 36,776
And1: 32,114
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#253 » by AirP. » Fri May 9, 2025 3:03 am

WarriorGM wrote:
AirP. wrote:So overall, GS was -4 in Butler's 34 minutes, meaning when off the floor in 11 minutes GS was -18 (3 minutes left in the game). Luckily 14 players had played in the game before Kerr pulled the starters. It is KEY to have multiple players you can have handle the ball on the court when Butler is off the court, I'd prefer to see Draymond and Podz being those 2.


The -4 towards the end tends to indicate to me the concern of Kuminga and Butler together are still valid especially with someone like TJD still on the floor.

-4 on the road in the 2nd round with your #1 option out isn't bad at all, that's 34 minutes of the game. There were way too many easy scores for Minnesota from TOs of bad defense (Moody) allowing a player to just go by himself the other way for an easy pass and score.
Samurai
General Manager
Posts: 8,896
And1: 3,113
Joined: Jul 01, 2014
     

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#254 » by Samurai » Fri May 9, 2025 3:04 am

AirP. wrote:
Impuniti wrote:Expected big L, but there may be a few points to take into account
+ TJD, JK might be playable and good moving forward in the series. TJD came outta nowhere
- Moody sucks, cut his minutes.
- There needs to be a very short leash for GPII and Podz
- "Playoff Jimmy" Hello??.. I'd like to make a call. Can you please show up sometimes soon?


They need to win game 3 no matter what.

GS needs Podz to handle the ball, as bad as he's been he's a WAY better option then most on the roster.

This game was lost with Butler on the bench because nearly anyone who touched the ball couldn't handle the defensive pressure.

Sadly that's true. Turnovers were really bad tonight but if we had to rely on GP2 or Buddy to be our point guard, our turnover total would probably short-circuit the scoreboard.
AirP.
RealGM
Posts: 36,776
And1: 32,114
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#255 » by AirP. » Fri May 9, 2025 3:05 am

floppymoose wrote:My guess is that JK and Butler will have to discover some synergy in order to get even 1 win.

Nah, Kerr just needs to make sure there's multiple players on the floor to handle the offense when Butler is off the court. That is where this game was lost. This means 2 of Draymond, Podz and Spencer, if you don't have 2 of them on the court you're going to be giving up a lot of easy scores the other way like they did tonight.

This series is winnable without Curry. Kerr just decided to punt this game at some point in the first half. The bad start probably started that thought process but you should never punt a playoff game.
superunknown
Starter
Posts: 2,146
And1: 740
Joined: Sep 25, 2018
       

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#256 » by superunknown » Fri May 9, 2025 3:07 am

while I was expecting a L, I did expect a dog fight, not this underwhelming performance on D.
without curry they need to go the HOU way basically.
GQ Hot Dog
General Manager
Posts: 9,452
And1: 5,641
Joined: May 15, 2006
Location: On the road...
     

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#257 » by GQ Hot Dog » Fri May 9, 2025 3:08 am

WarriorGM wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:Playing Butler and Kuminga together is problematic if neither will cut to the rim when the other attacks the bucket. Neither are good enough standing on the perimeter hunting 3s.


Perhaps but I prefer the hard data to say they cannot be played rather than speculation.


It's not speculation. I'm literally watching them stand flat-footed on the perimeter watching each other attack.

The hard data would say they can work together if they worked harder to give one another passing outlets. Hard data lags behind what we're seeing on the floor.
The hottest of takes...
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
User avatar
whatisacenter
RealGM
Posts: 12,787
And1: 14,980
Joined: Aug 05, 2013
 

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#258 » by whatisacenter » Fri May 9, 2025 3:09 am

That was rough.

I think JK is the only guy left on the roster who can get his own shot.

Defense and turnovers are going to be key moving forward. They gave up too many good looks from 3 and made too many live ball turnovers that lead to easy buckets.

Jimmy better still be injured....that was not a good performance in a leading roll.
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
powerball1373
Veteran
Posts: 2,808
And1: 4,790
Joined: Jun 08, 2019
   

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#259 » by powerball1373 » Fri May 9, 2025 3:12 am

floppymoose wrote:Epic beatdown. Curry IS the system.


Kerr is going to need to figure out some way to junk up one of the home games (preferably game 3) with some weird strategy. Something that may only work once, but that's all they need at this point. Just win one of the next two by any means necessary.
AirP.
RealGM
Posts: 36,776
And1: 32,114
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

Re: Warriors vs Timberwolves - Game 2 

Post#260 » by AirP. » Fri May 9, 2025 3:13 am

Punted the game in the 1st half.
Read on Twitter

Return to Golden State Warriors