Warriors @ Rockets - Game 2
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As I said this small front court won’t last long
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Crazy-Canuck wrote:
On second look, I don't think it was intentional. It was dangerous and a whole lot of bad luck.
Amen was pushing through for the rebound and tried to swim under dray. Dray stalled him with his arm then let him go.
Momentum took care of the rest.
I've watched several different replays of this. No one pushed Amen forward. And in fact, Amen throws his arms forward to intentionally undercut Butler. The fact that this wasn't reviewed for at least a fragrant 1 is mind-boggling. Did you see Butler yelling at the ref when he left the floor? He knew it was a dirty play.
But that's what the Rockets do. It's how they play. And it's not basketball.
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I thought this was a game the Rockets would win... and Warriors are in great shape having gotten the split and returning for two home games.
Considering Butler got hurt and Podz was ill they were still in it for much of the game.
Moody had a great chance to step up, he was getting guarded by Şengün - no respect Moses! - but he didn't seize the opportunity. I wish he would have been more aggressive, it was right there for him.
Kuminga was a disaster IDK if he will see the court again this season unless something terrible happens.
Considering Butler got hurt and Podz was ill they were still in it for much of the game.
Moody had a great chance to step up, he was getting guarded by Şengün - no respect Moses! - but he didn't seize the opportunity. I wish he would have been more aggressive, it was right there for him.
Kuminga was a disaster IDK if he will see the court again this season unless something terrible happens.
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Romulus wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
On second look, I don't think it was intentional. It was dangerous and a whole lot of bad luck.
Amen was pushing through for the rebound and tried to swim under dray. Dray stalled him with his arm then let him go.
Momentum took care of the rest.
I've watched several different replays of this. No one pushed Amen forward. And in fact, Amen throws his arms forward to intentionally undercut Butler. The fact that this wasn't reviewed for at least a fragrant 1 is mind-boggling. Did you see Butler yelling at the ref when he left the floor? He knew it was a dirty play.
But that's what the Rockets do. It's how they play. And it's not basketball.
Amen the super elite athlete literally puts his hands up and pushes through Jimmys legs. That absolutely intentional now that I’m seeing it from this angle.
That should be flagrant 2 and a suspension
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cpower wrote:Samurai wrote:Gotta admit that all the air left my sail once Butler went down. We are such a different team without him.
we are a different team without him because him and Curry are the only players that can put up 20 points a night. Moody Podz Post Buddy GP2 nobody would give you 20 points . Moody is the closest but he has been struggling lately. We dont have a 6th man on this team.
I haven't looked. Gonna guess how many times Moses has put up 20+. Tough call. I'm gonna go 8, my hunch is Podz has more. This is probably way off. Generally you're totally right though.
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Romulus wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
On second look, I don't think it was intentional. It was dangerous and a whole lot of bad luck.
Amen was pushing through for the rebound and tried to swim under dray. Dray stalled him with his arm then let him go.
Momentum took care of the rest.
I've watched several different replays of this. No one pushed Amen forward. And in fact, Amen throws his arms forward to intentionally undercut Butler. The fact that this wasn't reviewed for at least a fragrant 1 is mind-boggling. Did you see Butler yelling at the ref when he left the floor? He knew it was a dirty play.
But that's what the Rockets do. It's how they play. And it's not basketball.
Are you idiots or what?
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Onus wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
On second look, I don't think it was intentional. It was dangerous and a whole lot of bad luck.
Amen was pushing through for the rebound and tried to swim under dray. Dray stalled him with his arm then let him go.
Momentum took care of the rest.
Intention doesn’t matter. It was a dangerous and reckless play. The literally gave dray a t for removing Sengun arm from his neck.
I agree that intent doesn't really matter because it was so reckless. But don't kid yourself. He was never pushed. I think he tried to make it look like a basketball play, like he was going for a rebound, when he actually was just going for Butler's legs instead. In other words, I absolutely believe it was intentional.
Either way (and as you say) it was reckless and dangerous.
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SpreeS wrote:As I said this small front court won’t last long
Warriors rebounded a lot better tonight.
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SpreeS wrote:Romulus wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
On second look, I don't think it was intentional. It was dangerous and a whole lot of bad luck.
Amen was pushing through for the rebound and tried to swim under dray. Dray stalled him with his arm then let him go.
Momentum took care of the rest.
I've watched several different replays of this. No one pushed Amen forward. And in fact, Amen throws his arms forward to intentionally undercut Butler. The fact that this wasn't reviewed for at least a fragrant 1 is mind-boggling. Did you see Butler yelling at the ref when he left the floor? He knew it was a dirty play.
But that's what the Rockets do. It's how they play. And it's not basketball.
Are you idiots or what?
Talking to yourself?
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The Jimmy injury just looks like an accident. Just move on guys, it sucks that it might end our season but hopefully Jimmy is OK.
The main plus was Post getting some extended minutes & hitting some shots. Until one finally went down for him, he looked a little gunshy/uncomfortable. He got into the swing of the game and now he can contribute in the series.
Podz should have not played probably, it was clear he just couldn't get the lift on his shot. It sucks we're still missing a solid guard who can be a 3pt threat though, that's my #1 priority in the off-season.
The main plus was Post getting some extended minutes & hitting some shots. Until one finally went down for him, he looked a little gunshy/uncomfortable. He got into the swing of the game and now he can contribute in the series.
Podz should have not played probably, it was clear he just couldn't get the lift on his shot. It sucks we're still missing a solid guard who can be a 3pt threat though, that's my #1 priority in the off-season.
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Didn’t watch the game but the game thread was entertaining!
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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Romulus wrote:Onus wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:
On second look, I don't think it was intentional. It was dangerous and a whole lot of bad luck.
Amen was pushing through for the rebound and tried to swim under dray. Dray stalled him with his arm then let him go.
Momentum took care of the rest.
Intention doesn’t matter. It was a dangerous and reckless play. The literally gave dray a t for removing Sengun arm from his neck.
I agree that intent doesn't really matter because it was so reckless. But don't kid yourself. He was never pushed. I think he tried to make it look like a basketball play, like he was going for a rebound, when he actually was just going for Butler's legs instead. In other words, I absolutely believe it was intentional.
Either way (and as you say) it was reckless and dangerous.
If you’re falling you put your hands down to catch yourself as a natural instinct. If you’re trained you’ll leave your hands down by your side and let your chest take the brunt of it. At no point is it natural to bring your arms out and up unless you’re searching for contact.
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2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
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rockets are simply disgusting. but more disgusting are the refs who allow this shite.
if butler is out even for 1 game I want the various spencer, looney, santos, etc. to be instructed to hurt some of their players. hurt bad. fu**ing pigs.
if butler is out even for 1 game I want the various spencer, looney, santos, etc. to be instructed to hurt some of their players. hurt bad. fu**ing pigs.
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Wow, I don’t get the outrage over the play that injured Jimmy….it sucks but it didn’t seem intentional.
Madvillain been as high as Kathmandu
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
And tilted to the side like that fat man's shoe
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cladden wrote:cpower wrote:Samurai wrote:Gotta admit that all the air left my sail once Butler went down. We are such a different team without him.
we are a different team without him because him and Curry are the only players that can put up 20 points a night. Moody Podz Post Buddy GP2 nobody would give you 20 points . Moody is the closest but he has been struggling lately. We dont have a 6th man on this team.
I haven't looked. Gonna guess how many times Moses has put up 20+. Tough call. I'm gonna go 8, my hunch is Podz has more. This is probably way off. Generally you're totally right though.
Moody: 4 times
Podz: 8 times.
you are right
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I don't know what you guys are looking at, Draymond clearly body-checks Thompson into Butler's space (the side angle shows it better than the angle above). It wasn't intentional on anyone's part, but unfortunate. Draymond tends to just play that way, but I also blame the Rockets for playing like the '80s/'90s Pistons, you do that enough it's inevitable someone is going to end up injured one way or another. So I somewhat understand Draymond trying to match the physicality but in this case it backfired big time.
If Jimmy is done, so is the Warriors season. They just don't have the firepower and discipline to beat anyone without him.
If Jimmy is done, so is the Warriors season. They just don't have the firepower and discipline to beat anyone without him.
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whatisacenter wrote:Wow, I don’t get the outrage over the play that injured Jimmy….it sucks but it didn’t seem intentional.
Same. I've disliked the Rockets for a long time, and you can say their style of play is reckless, but I didn't think that was intentional at all. Now if it was Dillon Brooks, that would be a different story lol.
Also, JK just does not sound like he gets it, at all. I think he'd much rather be the #1 option on a 20-win team. No interest in winning, just worried about himself.
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powerball1373 wrote:whatisacenter wrote:Wow, I don’t get the outrage over the play that injured Jimmy….it sucks but it didn’t seem intentional.
Same. I've disliked the Rockets for a long time, and you can say their style of play is reckless, but I didn't think that was intentional at all. Now if it was Dillon Brooks, that would be a different story lol.
Also, JK just does not sound like he gets it, at all. I think he'd much rather be the #1 option on a 20-win team. No interest in winning, just worried about himself.
it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not. when you play "reckless" and an accident like that happens, it's a flagrant 2. period. you shouldn't play reckless in the first place, let's start with that, and if in doing so you injury some other player, then you need to pay the price for your recklessness and go to the locker room before time.
all these post about intentionality, it was pushed, it was not, and whanot are menaningless. thompson had no business trying to squeeze himself for that rebound in that situation, his way to play reckless is what led to the accident, hence he should've been ejected no matter what.
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superunknown wrote:powerball1373 wrote:whatisacenter wrote:Wow, I don’t get the outrage over the play that injured Jimmy….it sucks but it didn’t seem intentional.
Same. I've disliked the Rockets for a long time, and you can say their style of play is reckless, but I didn't think that was intentional at all. Now if it was Dillon Brooks, that would be a different story lol.
Also, JK just does not sound like he gets it, at all. I think he'd much rather be the #1 option on a 20-win team. No interest in winning, just worried about himself.
it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not. when you play "reckless" and an accident like that happens, it's a flagrant 2. period. you shouldn't play reckless in the first place, let's start with that, and if in doing so you injury some other player, then you need to pay the price for your recklessness and go to the locker room before time.
all these post about intentionality, it was pushed, it was not, and whanot are menaningless. thompson had no business trying to squeeze himself for that rebound in that situation, his way to play reckless is what led to the accident, hence he should've been ejected no matter what.
I totally get that you're upset Jimmy got hurt - I am too. But listen to what you're saying... "Thompson had no business trying to squeeze himself for that rebound in that situation". He shouldn't go for a rebound because he's unlikely to get it?
None of the players said it was dirty. Kerr didn't think it was dirty, nor did the coaches behind the bench (according to Kerr). Unfortunate, but just gotta move on at this point.
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