Timberwolves vs Warriors - Game 4 - Do or Die

[Jax_23]

They gave up and our coach is a ****

This loss has nothing to do with the coach lol. Why do some of you go straight to the coach anytime they lose? There's simply no answers on this roster without Steph. This team just beat LeBron and Luka in 5 games, and you think it's Kerr's fault that the Warriors are losing without Steph, and with Jimmy playing like Wiggins?

Agreed. I do wish Kerr at least had some consistency so the team has some stability (like why tf are we starting TJD?). At the same time, it's hit or miss with these role players every game, so Kerr is just playing mix and match. Like how bout a lineup of something like --

PG - (fk nevermind, we're screwed)
SG - Hield
SF - Kuminga
PF - D. Green
C - Looney or Post


Team basically consists of 1 great player (injured), 2 good players, and the rest are bench players who could easily see zero minutes on any good team, and 1 with any upside (Kuminga). Just having 2 bonefied starters along the big 3 would've made a big difference. Starters play more minutes in playoffs, so having a deep bench matters less and less.

It is what it is at this point. A Curry-less Warriors are gonna have trouble beating any good team. Just lack of talent, even with Curry. For the Dubs to win, it'd take / it would've taken superman heroics from Jimmy combined with some role players getting very hot and hitting above their weight (like Hield game 1) combined with a colossal choke job by the Twolves.

Should pickup some actual Starters in offseason and go all in for 2025-26 last dance, then reassess or rebuild after that.

[HiRez]

I honestly don't care if any player other than Steph isn't back next year. It's not that none of them have any talent, but it's not there often enough for any of them.

[powerball1373]

They gave up and our coach is a ****

This loss has nothing to do with the coach lol. Why do some of you go straight to the coach anytime they lose? There's simply no answers on this roster without Steph. This team just beat LeBron and Luka in 5 games, and you think it's Kerr's fault that the Warriors are losing without Steph, and with Jimmy playing like Wiggins?

Agreed. I do wish Kerr at least had some consistency so the team has some stability (like why tf are we starting TJD?). At the same time, it's hit or miss with these role players every game, so Kerr is just playing mix and match. Like how bout a lineup of something like --

PG - (fk nevermind, we're screwed)
SG - Hield
SF - Kuminga
PF - D. Green
C - Looney or Post


Team basically consists of 1 great player (injured), 2 good players, and the rest are bench players who could easily see zero minutes on any good team, and 1 with any upside (Kuminga). Just having 2 bonefied starters would've made a big difference. Starters play more minutes in playoffs, so having a deep bench matters less and less.

It is what it is at this point. A Curry-less Warriors are gonna have trouble beating any good team. Just lack of talent, even with Curry. For the Dubs to win, it'd take / it would've taken superman heroics from Jimmy combined with some role players getting very hot and hitting above their weight (like Hield game 1) combined with a colossal choke job by the Twolves.

Should pickup some actual Starters in offseason and go all in for 2025-26 last dance, then reassess or rebuild after that.

I'm guessing Kerr starts with TJD so he can use Looney more in closing lineups. That position is pretty bare of talent as well for the Warriors. I don't know if any of the 3 (TJD/Looney/Post) could start for another team. Def not another playoff team. Luke Garza would prob play for the Warriors and he's glued to the Wolves bench.

[WarriorGM]

I don't buy the lack of talent excuse. You have our bench players going +14 against the Wolves starters and second unit. We also saw them hold their own against the Rockets starters in the previous series too. There's something there and it is Kerr's job to have found it.

[Jax_23]

I don't buy the lack of talent excuse. You have our bench players going +14 against the Wolves starters and second unit. We also saw them hold their own against the Rockets starters in the previous series too. There's something there and it is Kerr's job to have found it.

The team is too top-heavy. If you look at W's overall talent beyond the big 3 and their skill sets vs actual starters, we have a bunch of mediocre players. Look at a contender like the Celtics --- Derrick White (or Holiday), Horford, and Porzingis are arguably their 4th - 6th best players. Who do we got 4th - 6th? Hield, Kuminga, Podz, Looney, Moody? lol. The talent isn't even close. If they (probably) lose series, I still think the big 3 can make some noise next year if they get another couple starters.

[superunknown]

no way this team can win the game with jimmy taking 9 effing shots. 9 effing shots.
for the record, podz took 14 shots, green took 14 shots.
what the hell was that?
someone should explain.

[whocurrz]

Obviously I’m no expert but pretty sure one of the early fouls on Jimmy he went down and landed on a bit awkward causing him to fall back on the tailbone. Maybe the fatigue from the end of Game 3 caught up earlier and he was just out of gas against a big athletic team. But his lack of aggression tonight definitely a sign of something physically wrong.

[superunknown]

I don't buy the lack of talent excuse. You have our bench players going +14 against the Wolves starters and second unit. We also saw them hold their own against the Rockets starters in the previous series too. There's something there and it is Kerr's job to have found it.

buying it or not, this team has a serious lack of talent issue. whether is tecnical talent, physical talent, the roster apart few players you can count on the fingers of your hand is shite.
the fact steph is usually able to singlehandendly elevate this bunch of players should not divert attention from the fact the roster is not competitive for a champiosnhip run.

[Jester_]

oh well. I can't be mad... we lost Steph Curry and lost to a surging team. as you'd expect

bummer, but out of anyones control and not anybodys fault. proud of the team for rallying towards the end of the season... and unless Giannis tips the balance somewhere, we have one final shot next year to bring this era to a final end

[superunknown]

oh well. I can't be mad... we lost Steph Curry and lost to a surging team. as you'd expect

bummer, but out of anyones control and not anybodys fault. proud of the team for rallying towards the end of the season... and unless Giannis tips the balance somewhere, we have one final shot next year to bring this era to a final end

a final shot with who? the likes of podz, moody, santos, post, etc. ?
giannis or not, this roster needs moves. cannot think to run it back simply hoping next year there will be no injury to the top 3 guys. you need upgrades in several positions, starting with the starting SG position.

[kuly1990]

Well i hope Jimmy is hurt, because if he is not and this is him from now on, than his contract is biggest overpayment in history of nba, playoff Jimmy is getting a different meaning these playofs
i wouldn't blame anyone else, i don't blame Jimmy, it is what it is
Kuminga played great two games, his decision making was good, as oposed to disaster of decisions in games before, so which is the real Kuminga?
There is still small hope, but everything would have to go perfect, first Curry coming back healthy enough

[Jester_]

oh well. I can't be mad... we lost Steph Curry and lost to a surging team. as you'd expect

bummer, but out of anyones control and not anybodys fault. proud of the team for rallying towards the end of the season... and unless Giannis tips the balance somewhere, we have one final shot next year to bring this era to a final end

a final shot with who? the likes of podz, moody, santos, post, etc. ?
giannis or not, this roster needs moves. cannot think to run it back simply hoping next year there will be no injury to the top 3 guys. you need upgrades in several positions, starting with the starting SG position.

if steph is out we lose no matter who our supporting cast is

easy to overreact, but if Steph didn't go down we have a solid shot at winning a ring this year

hopefully we can move kuminga for a difference maker this summer and run it back

[Onus]

oh well. I can't be mad... we lost Steph Curry and lost to a surging team. as you'd expect

bummer, but out of anyones control and not anybodys fault. proud of the team for rallying towards the end of the season... and unless Giannis tips the balance somewhere, we have one final shot next year to bring this era to a final end

a final shot with who? the likes of podz, moody, santos, post, etc. ?
giannis or not, this roster needs moves. cannot think to run it back simply hoping next year there will be no injury to the top 3 guys. you need upgrades in several positions, starting with the starting SG position.

if steph is out we lose no matter who our supporting cast is

easy to overreact, but if Steph didn't go down we have a solid shot at winning a ring this year

hopefully we can move kuminga for a difference maker this summer and run it back

That's what hurts the most. Despite how bad we were this year, there was a chance at a ring and Steph going down stopped any realistic chance.

[Crazy-Canuck]

So, if we trade steph to the lakers, does silver give us the first pick for aj dybantsa?

[Impuniti]

It's not do or die, win or lose the Warriors will have another playoff game on Wednesday.

And that playoff game will mean nothing at all, because we all know what's going to happen.

[KevinMcreynolds]

They gave up and our coach is a ****

This loss has nothing to do with the coach lol. Why do some of you go straight to the coach anytime they lose? There's simply no answers on this roster without Steph. This team just beat LeBron and Luka in 5 games, and you think it's Kerr's fault that the Warriors are losing without Steph, and with Jimmy playing like Wiggins?

He experiments with lineups in critical moments of critical games. Never seen anything like it. He even did it in game 7 of the 2016 finals.

Really doesn’t matter rn though, I expected to lose 4 straight either way.

[vvoland]

I've always stood by Kerr and I don't hope for a new coach next year. Having said that, the decision to start TJD this game, and especially in the 2nd half, killed us. We came out with real energy, on both ends, and would have been up more if TJD wasn't fouling, missing rotations, and not contributing, AT ALL. The start of the 2nd half was a disaster and TJD just wasn't ready to contribute. The only thing he does better than Loon is run up and down the court. If the reason he started both halves is "pace," Steve needs to rethink his strategy, immediately.

I think we had a real shot at last night's game, especially if JK starts in TJD's place, at least in the 2nd half. Crazy that Kerr threw in the towel with 5 minutes left; it's a playoff game. 3-1 is not impossible but we'd need a real choke job from Minny in game 5 or Butler to go for 40+. Both seem unlikely. It's such a bummer that we had the butler injury in round 1 that cost us games, made us play 7, and heavily contributed to the physical toll Steph took that then caused his hammy to go. A bruise and hamstring strain don't sound like the achilles and ACL that cost us the '19 finals but these two injuries may prove just as costly.

[vvoland]

They gave up and our coach is a ****

This loss has nothing to do with the coach lol. Why do some of you go straight to the coach anytime they lose? There's simply no answers on this roster without Steph. This team just beat LeBron and Luka in 5 games, and you think it's Kerr's fault that the Warriors are losing without Steph, and with Jimmy playing like Wiggins?

He experiments with lineups in critical moments of critical games. Never seen anything like it. He even did it in game 7 of the 2016 finals.

Really doesn’t matter rn though, I expected to lose 4 straight either way.

I don't think he's experimenting as much as he's just wrong. Because it's often in favor of a big guy that doesn't fit (Ezeli, TJD) or 4 guards under 6'3, it really jumps off the screen. Teams are also much better at exploiting those mistakes against the warriors as they're often the only way to attack this roster.

[DAWill1128]

Jimmy was a godsend for this group. If not for the Steph injury this team went from like 11th to would be WCF. Jimmys play overall has been a really good body of work for a guy brought in to be the 2nd best player on the team. Obviously its complicated in the last handful due to Stephs injury and having a horrendous roster when it comes to shooting and no backup point guard.

The Jimmy trade was great, the guys that signed on and or competed for roster spots have done well.

But the issue for a few years now has been how they managed the Poole contract. They gave Poole a bigger deal than they needed which threw off his value on the trade market. Then the organization panic traded Poole who was like 23 years old for a 40 year old CP3 who didn't have it anymore. The organization sold the fans on the idea that they brought in CP3 because his expiring could be moved for help. They had months to get any bit of help with the CP3 contract only to let him walk, I don't care throw in future picks. Anything to not let that massive contract slot walk out the door. The idiocracy of how Poole was handled forced Wiggins out the door as the only moveable large contract.

[HiRez]

oh well. I can't be mad... we lost Steph Curry and lost to a surging team. as you'd expect

bummer, but out of anyones control and not anybodys fault. proud of the team for rallying towards the end of the season... and unless Giannis tips the balance somewhere, we have one final shot next year to bring this era to a final end

Yeah, I mean I think we all knew whether consciously or subconsciously that we were just 1 Steph injury away from season over. It is what it is. Just too bad because this Wolves team isn't a juggernaut and was beatable. Not being able to take even 1 game from them without Steph, when it was there, when we had leads, but kept choking them away, is disappointing. I'd feel less bad if they just dominated us by 30 every game. Over and over again, everyone on the team came up small when they were needed most.