Draymond Green discussion...and "californiadude" blackmail.

East Bay Sports · Post #281 » by **East Bay Sports** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 3:47 pm

Left*My*Heart wrote:The front office will pay Green whatever it takes to keep him. The bigger concerns are what to do with Lee, Dre and Barnes. Bogut is a major issue as well and I would prefer moving him this off season if possible.

There are only 3-4 centers in the league better than a healthy Bogut. Unless we somehow package Bogut with someone else to upgrade, I don't see much point in moving him.

Left*My*Heart · Post #282 » by **Left*My*Heart** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 3:57 pm

The problem is Bogut's health. I would rather have a lower tier 5 or two, than a guy you can't count on. If we could have a semi healthy Bogut come playoff time, I may change my tune. I don't think it is possible to trade him if he continues with his health issues.

old rem · Post #283 » by **old rem** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 4:31 pm

East Bay Sports wrote:
Left*My*Heart wrote:The front office will pay Green whatever it takes to keep him. The bigger concerns are what to do with Lee, Dre and Barnes. Bogut is a major issue as well and I would prefer moving him this off season if possible.

There are only 3-4 centers in the league better than a healthy Bogut. Unless we somehow package Bogut with someone else to upgrade, I don't see much point in moving him.

With Barnes and Iggy... one factor is Barnes is 1/4 the $..and 10 yr younger..with upside. Iggy's numbers all are declining every year. That said... it may already be to where Iggy has negative trade value...it could cost to just flip him for expiring junk.

Bogut... is gonna be a gamble going forward. This year...next year... he may play a lot be great...may go injured again. Roll the dice? Good thing we got Mo....and Festus. For us to swap Bogut for a real good C... Bogut has to get healthy..play great..for awhile. If that happened ...nobody would want to trade him..till next time he's injured. :roll:

Pretty much...GSW is rolling and perhaps makes changes somewhat latwe.

The-Power · Post #284 » by **The-Power** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 11:21 pm

Kerr sets the scene: “Against Houston I got upset. At the end of the half he turned it over with 1.8 seconds, they called a 20 to set up a play. And I was so upset. 'Just get the ball in!' He's like, 'They didn't get open! F--- you!' Andre [Iguodala] holds him back, soon as the buzzer sounds he's all, 'My bad, coach!' And I'm like, 'That's why I love you, Draymond!'"

Lol.

http://espn.go.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/157/scream-too-kerr-green-gel-through-yells
Some good stuff about Green and Kerr as well as Green and his leadership.

old rem · Post #285 » by **old rem** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 2:18 am

The-Power wrote:
Kerr sets the scene: “Against Houston I got upset. At the end of the half he turned it over with 1.8 seconds, they called a 20 to set up a play. And I was so upset. 'Just get the ball in!' He's like, 'They didn't get open! F--- you!' Andre [Iguodala] holds him back, soon as the buzzer sounds he's all, 'My bad, coach!' And I'm like, 'That's why I love you, Draymond!'"

Lol.

http://espn.go.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/157/scream-too-kerr-green-gel-through-yells
Some good stuff about Green and Kerr as well as Green and his leadership.

Dray is intense... that's who he is and why we love the Bear. That tale says a lot about both Dray and Kerr and why GSW is winning.

Warrior legend Manute Bol...was the source of the phrase " My Bad" ......interesting to hear it now part of the language.

The-Power · Post #286 » by **The-Power** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 3:18 pm

Talking is always easier after a great game and a win, but this interview sums up Dray's attitude pretty well imo.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/video_content_type/green-didnt-want-know-he-was-close-triple-double

Mylie10 · Post #287 » by **Mylie10** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:05 pm

He's playing like an All Star to be honest.

Kuya · Post #288 » by **Kuya** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:57 pm

He's playing like an All-Star and a DPOY

seriously, $10 mil for him is a STEAL

he's has such a rare combination at the PF position. the closest to him is Lebron playing the 4 to be honest. there aren't power forwards that could be elite defenders, guard all 5 positions, stretch the floor, find the open man etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

GSWarriors22 · Post #289 » by **GSWarriors22** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:04 pm

Is there like a point where we cant match his salary? Or can we pretty much match everything?

Muggsy Bogues · Post #290 » by **Muggsy Bogues** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:12 pm

GSWarriors22 wrote:Is there like a point where we cant match his salary? Or can we pretty much match everything?

He's a restricted free agent, they can match any offer he gets.

turk3d · Post #291 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:29 pm

To me, the only question remaining on Dray is can he withstand the rigors of an entire season, particularly thw way he plays (one of the comments I made early on with him playing the 4). It's so important for him to be able to hit his 3s fairly consistently (as well as for the Splash bros and the team as a whole) as this will help to keep him out of the paint and having to bang so often. So far, so good.

turk3d · Post #292 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:29 pm

To me, the only question remaining on Dray is can he withstand the rigors of an entire season, particularly thw way he plays (one of the comments I made early on with him playing the 4). It's so important for him to be able to hit his 3s fairly consistently (as well as for the Splash bros and the team as a whole) as this will help to keep him out of the paint and having to bang so often. So far, so good.

Twinkie defense · Post #293 » by **Twinkie defense** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:26 pm

Has Draymond even missed a game? He must have, but I don't recall it. He is one tough hombre.

Mylie10 · Post #294 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 9:50 pm

Not sure about last year, but I seem to remember rookie year he had some knee tendinitis. Think he missed a couple games. Also helped him to rework his body to play more wing than he did in college where he spent most of his time in the paint. So his body remake has really helped his knees. Leaner and meaner.

Coxy · Post #295 » by **Coxy** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:30 pm

Kuya wrote:He's playing like an All-Star and a DPOY

seriously, $10 mil for him is a STEAL

he's has such a rare combination at the PF position. the closest to him is Lebron playing the 4 to be honest. there aren't power forwards that could be elite defenders, guard all 5 positions, stretch the floor, find the open man etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Lebron's an anomoly, but I think Green would play the 4 better than LBJ long term anyway.

If you take Lebron out of it, I doubt there is another player that is as diverse as Green in the NBA. There are plenty that can play 1/2/3 and then maybe some 4 in very small ball lineups, but none an do the big + wing thing like Draymond. He's sort of a Point Shooting Power Forward?

Mylie10 · Post #296 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:48 pm

Coxy wrote:
Kuya wrote:He's playing like an All-Star and a DPOY

seriously, $10 mil for him is a STEAL

he's has such a rare combination at the PF position. the closest to him is Lebron playing the 4 to be honest. there aren't power forwards that could be elite defenders, guard all 5 positions, stretch the floor, find the open man etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Lebron's an anomoly, but I think Green would play the 4 better than LBJ long term anyway.

If you take Lebron out of it, I doubt there is another player that is as diverse as Green in the NBA. There are plenty that can play 1/2/3 and then maybe some 4 in very small ball lineups, but none an do the big + wing thing like Draymond. He's sort of a Point Shooting Power Forward?

I'd say Kawhi Leonard is similar in diversity and better overall, but the list is short, like you said.

Coxy · Post #297 » by **Coxy** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:29 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
Coxy wrote:
Kuya wrote:He's playing like an All-Star and a DPOY

seriously, $10 mil for him is a STEAL

he's has such a rare combination at the PF position. the closest to him is Lebron playing the 4 to be honest. there aren't power forwards that could be elite defenders, guard all 5 positions, stretch the floor, find the open man etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Lebron's an anomoly, but I think Green would play the 4 better than LBJ long term anyway.

If you take Lebron out of it, I doubt there is another player that is as diverse as Green in the NBA. There are plenty that can play 1/2/3 and then maybe some 4 in very small ball lineups, but none an do the big + wing thing like Draymond. He's sort of a Point Shooting Power Forward?

I'd say Kawhi Leonard is similar in diversity and better overall, but the list is short, like you said.

Can Kawhi play the 4 like Green? I'd say he's a better wing guy, but Green has him in the 'big man' role long term.

I must admit though, I haven't watched the Spurs play for quite a while now. I didn't even watch 1 game of the NBA finals.

Mylie10 · Post #298 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:41 pm

I think Kawhi has a 7' 3" wingspan and is strong.....not something he has to do much of, but I'd bet he can. I pick Kawhi because of his handles and better shooter. It's nice company to be in though

Mylie10 · Post #299 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:43 pm

I think Kawhi has a 7' 3" wingspan and is strong.....not something he has to do much of, but I'd bet he can. I pick Kawhi because of his handles and better shooter. It's nice company to be in though

turk3d · Post #300 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:45 pm

Coxy wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Coxy wrote:

Lebron's an anomoly, but I think Green would play the 4 better than LBJ long term anyway.

If you take Lebron out of it, I doubt there is another player that is as diverse as Green in the NBA. There are plenty that can play 1/2/3 and then maybe some 4 in very small ball lineups, but none an do the big + wing thing like Draymond. He's sort of a Point Shooting Power Forward?

I'd say Kawhi Leonard is similar in diversity and better overall, but the list is short, like you said.

Can Kawhi play the 4 like Green? I'd say he's a better wing guy, but Green has him in the 'big man' role long term.

I must admit though, I haven't watched the Spurs play for quite a while now. I didn't even watch 1 game of the NBA finals.

Don't think Kahwi can play Center (we know Green can in spurts, lol). Not sure if Kahwi can handle the point although he has decent handles (has he ever had 13 assists in a game)? In one of the Dray interviews posted, Dray says he can handle pretty well and is accustomed to doing so. Dray do it all.

I also think Dray may be stronger than Kahwi (who's also strong, just not as strong as Dray is imo).