Is Klay Thompson overrated?

Bball0000 · Post #281 » by **Bball0000** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 3:55 am

Klay > Butler.

bball iq = Klay
defense = tied
offense, scorer, shooting = Klay
competitiveness & toughness = Klay

Klay is still underrated imo 'cause he's not super flashy. He has some of the best intangibles in the league as well. Not enough people care about intangibles when comparing 2 players.

cpower · Post #282 » by **cpower** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 5:02 am

Bball0000 wrote:Klay > Butler.

bball iq = Klay
defense = tied
offense, scorer, shooting = Klay
competitiveness & toughness = Klay

Klay is still underrated imo 'cause he's not super flashy. He has some of the best intangibles in the league as well. Not enough people care about intangibles when comparing 2 players.

when he got hot.

sjballer03 · Post #283 » by **sjballer03** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 5:51 am

Overrated.

turk3d · Post #284 » by **turk3d** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 6:24 am

Barnes, Klay, Rush. We ought to trade all of 'em. If it wasn't for them, we'd be 37-0. Oh, and I almost forgot, fire Luke, he sucks too.

Quazza · Post #285 » by **Quazza** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 6:49 am

averaging 33 over his last 5 on some ridiculous %'s

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #286 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 7:19 am

PPG/FG%/3P%

OCT 13.0/43.3/25.0
NOV 16.9/45.7/43.3
DEC 25.3/47.7/45.5
JAN 32.0/50.0/48.8

Coxy · Post #287 » by **Coxy** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 8:13 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:PPG/FG%/3P%

OCT 13.0/43.3/25.0
NOV 16.9/45.7/43.3
DEC 25.3/47.7/45.5
JAN 32.0/50.0/48.8

The statistics suggest a slight amount of improvement, however I'd need to verify the data by squeezing a goats testicles before believing it.

NBAfan3024 · Post #288 » by **NBAfan3024** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 9:25 am

Sick performances lately

East Bay Sports · Post #289 » by **East Bay Sports** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 2:34 pm

Vastly overrated. Let's trade him for Lou Williams plz

rcfc1 · Post #290 » by **rcfc1** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 3:11 pm

I don't think the issue is overrating him. I think he's got some consistency issues, but not ones that are outside the range of a normal player.

turk3d · Post #291 » by **turk3d** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 5:05 pm

I say we use Coxy's evaluation method to determine whether or not he's a keeper.

bakesale · Post #292 » by **bakesale** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 9:03 pm

Where's that Clyde 21 guy now? He said something like "he shoots well for 3 quarters then shoots badly for the next 20, eh, what good is that?"

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bakesale · Post #293 » by **bakesale** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 9:12 pm

He's pretty much a certainty for his second all star game in a row. And yet he gets paid way less than most of the other West all stars. Where is Likashing with his "oh whoais me klay gets paid too much and does too little"?

Or where is that Jason Bourne guy who says crap like "we should trade him for monta because he's better than klay" Lmao

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likashing · Post #294 » by **likashing** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 9:57 pm

bakesale wrote:He's pretty much a certainty for his second all star game in a row. And yet he gets paid way less than most of the other West all stars. Where is Likashing with his "oh whoais me klay gets paid too much and does too little"?

Or where is that Jason Bourne guy who says crap like "we should trade him for monta because he's better than klay" Lmao

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Again I am glad Klay has proved me wrong by getting back to his normal self since December. If he keeps it up we are winning 2 rings in a row for sure!

Happy to be wrong!

Keep ribbin' it in!

watch1958 · Post #295 » by **watch1958** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 10:32 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
SF88 wrote:
likashing wrote:http://nbawowy-52108.onmodulus.net/2jqoye831q8e61or

Klay's performance without Steph - horrific ts% of 38.6%

My god, that's beyond horrific.

If Thompson had actually gotten traded to Minnesota for Love and they gave him a max, Thompson may have ended up the worst contract in the NBA with those type of numbers without Curry there.

that ts% is in 110 minutes, that's equivalent to less than 4 games...

The only thing that's beyond horrific is this discussion.

+1
#SmallsamplesizeFTL.

Last 5 games, on the floor without Curry 97 minutes. 67% TS, on 35% USG.

My god, that's beyond something. :dontknow:

watch1958 · Post #296 » by **watch1958** » Sat Jan 9, 2016 10:40 pm

Coxy wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:PPG/FG%/3P%

OCT 13.0/43.3/25.0
NOV 16.9/45.7/43.3
DEC 25.3/47.7/45.5
JAN 32.0/50.0/48.8

The statistics suggest a slight amount of improvement, however I'd need to verify the data by squeezing a goats testicles before believing it.

I dunno. Among the advanced stats, GAPE (Goat Assisted Player Evaluation) tends to be over-rated.

a8bil · Post #297 » by **a8bil** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:47 am

rcfc1 wrote:I don't think the issue is overrating him. I think he's got some consistency issues, but not ones that are outside the range of a normal player.

LOL...I"m going to keep posting until this myth of Klay being inconsistent is dispelled. Let's try this:

The following are the number of 2015-2016 games in which the identified players shot 33% or less. This should show inconsistency shouldn't it?

Curry - 2
Durant - 2
LJ - 2
DeRozan - 3
Klay - 4
Westbrook - 4
Wade - 5
Hayward - 6
Reddick - 6
Butler - 7
Lillard - 7
Wiggins- 7
Love -8
Nowitsky - 8
Wall - 8
Harden - 9
George - 9
Anthony - 9
Lowry - 10

These are not scrubs. These are most of the best players in the game, and Klay is amongst the BEST in not having crappy offensive games. So, can we drop this "inconsistency" narrative? It is an agenda pushed by a bunch of posters who have no idea what they are talking about.

turk3d · Post #298 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:22 am

a8bil wrote:
rcfc1 wrote:I don't think the issue is overrating him. I think he's got some consistency issues, but not ones that are outside the range of a normal player.

LOL...I"m going to keep posting until this myth of Klay being inconsistent is dispelled. Let's try this:

The following are the number of 2015-2016 games in which the identified players shot 33% or less. This should show inconsistency shouldn't it?

Curry - 2
Durant - 2
LJ - 2
DeRozan - 3
Klay - 4
Westbrook - 4
Wade - 5
Hayward - 6
Reddick - 6
Butler - 7
Lillard - 7
Wiggins- 7
Love -8
Nowitsky - 8
Wall - 8
Harden - 9
George - 9
Anthony - 9
Lowry - 10

These are not scrubs. These are most of the best players in the game, and Klay is amongst the BEST in not having crappy offensive games. So, can we drop this "inconsistency" narrative? It is an agenda pushed by a bunch of posters who have no idea what they are talking about.

And I still say fire everybody. It's time to rebuild. :lol:

rcfc1 · Post #299 » by **rcfc1** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:56 am

a8bil wrote:
rcfc1 wrote:I don't think the issue is overrating him. I think he's got some consistency issues, but not ones that are outside the range of a normal player.

LOL...I"m going to keep posting until this myth of Klay being inconsistent is dispelled. Let's try this:

The following are the number of 2015-2016 games in which the identified players shot 33% or less. This should show inconsistency shouldn't it?

Curry - 2
Durant - 2
LJ - 2
DeRozan - 3
Klay - 4
Westbrook - 4
Wade - 5
Hayward - 6
Reddick - 6
Butler - 7
Lillard - 7
Wiggins- 7
Love -8
Nowitsky - 8
Wall - 8
Harden - 9
George - 9
Anthony - 9
Lowry - 10

These are not scrubs. These are most of the best players in the game, and Klay is amongst the BEST in not having crappy offensive games. So, can we drop this "inconsistency" narrative? It is an agenda pushed by a bunch of posters who have no idea what they are talking about.

Thank you for doing all that work, but I think you missed a key qualifier in my quote that I have since bolded. Also, that's not the only measure of inconsistency, and where you set that bar is pretty important. What happens if you move it to, say 40%?

Take a chill pill.

Mylie10 · Post #300 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:11 am

My qualifier would be around 40-42% that's not a good fg%....and if you add big volume to it, then it's real bad unless you are getting to the line a ton.

I appreciate the work a8bil, and I'm probably leaning more in your direction on the Klay issue. Especially when you look at your list and compare the fg%'s of the other top guys to Klay, because all those other top guys tend to get fouled a lot and also drive to the hoop and score better than Klay there. The fact that Klay shoots good percentage and shoots the majority of his shots from distance tells you how crazy good he can shoot the ball at times.