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Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form?

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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#281 » by Sleepy51 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 1:59 am

watch1958 wrote:I think the core is slow to realize that the type of help they need changes as they get older. Five years ago it was “play smart and stay out of the way.”

Now they need more athleticism and skill, but no one is quite sure how to let that grow and develop.

So you end up telling your scrubs you don’t want to play with them, then whining when they don’t have enough reps to help.


I think this is a really astute point. It’s not all “bench sux and can’t play smart” some of this is that Klay and Dray at least have become “harder to play with” as age limitations impact their
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#282 » by sjballer03 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 2:24 am

watch1958 wrote:I think the core is slow to realize that the type of help they need changes as they get older. Five years ago it was “play smart and stay out of the way.”

Now they need more athleticism and skill, but no one is quite sure how to let that grow and develop.

So you end up telling your scrubs you don’t want to play with them, then whining when they don’t have enough reps to help.


I don't think the Spurs had this issue as the core aged. Although having a young kawhi definitely helped.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#283 » by Big J » Wed Apr 5, 2023 2:29 am

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watch1958 wrote:I think the core is slow to realize that the type of help they need changes as they get older. Five years ago it was “play smart and stay out of the way.”

Now they need more athleticism and skill, but no one is quite sure how to let that grow and develop.

So you end up telling your scrubs you don’t want to play with them, then whining when they don’t have enough reps to help.


I don't think the Spurs had this issue as the core aged. Although having a young kawhi definitely helped.


Maybe JK will become our Kawhi.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#284 » by azwfan » Wed Apr 5, 2023 2:34 am

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watch1958 wrote:I think the core is slow to realize that the type of help they need changes as they get older. Five years ago it was “play smart and stay out of the way.”

Now they need more athleticism and skill, but no one is quite sure how to let that grow and develop.

So you end up telling your scrubs you don’t want to play with them, then whining when they don’t have enough reps to help.


I don't think the Spurs had this issue as the core aged. Although having a young kawhi definitely helped.

The Spurs changed their style of play like 3x over the course of their run.
At one point they were a walk the ball up the court and dump in to Robinson / Duncan.
Then they moved to a up tempo type of team.
And then finally the elite ball movement culminating in their last title and then Kerr evolving that into what we've had for the past 8 years.
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Post#285 » by watch1958 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 2:39 am

Big J wrote:Weirdly I think we're missing a Maggette type who we can just dump the ball to and watch him draw fouls when our vets need a blow.
I guess KD kinda spoiled us on that one.
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Post#286 » by SaveTheHens » Wed Apr 5, 2023 2:46 am

I think he can help a bit in the second round, maybe make a few needed plays in the first. He’ll be rusty so we need the splash brothers in the first round esp. if theyre rolling and wiggins gets going in the second then warriors have a legit shot at a surprise ring
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Post#287 » by sjballer03 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 2:54 am

watch1958 wrote:
Big J wrote:Weirdly I think we're missing a Maggette type who we can just dump the ball to and watch him draw fouls when our vets need a blow.
I guess KD kinda spoiled us on that one.


Kuminga and Poole can be that guy but they still got some work to do.
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Post#289 » by Onus » Wed Apr 5, 2023 3:21 pm

I've got to say the Warriors did really well with this Wiggins situation. That includes the media covering this.

And to the posters saying why was he still getting paid, remember he took less to stay.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#290 » by sjballer03 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 3:50 pm

Onus wrote:I've got to say the Warriors did really well with this Wiggins situation. That includes the media covering this.

And to the posters saying why was he still getting paid, remember he took less to stay.


It's important also in the sense that it helps the Warriors be a good FA destination that takes care of their own. We always wonder why players don't go to certain teams and it's because of the (lack of) culture.
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Post#291 » by Big J » Wed Apr 5, 2023 4:11 pm

Onus wrote:I've got to say the Warriors did really well with this Wiggins situation. That includes the media covering this.

And to the posters saying why was he still getting paid, remember he took less to stay.


It’s fine that they handled it this way, but not giving the reason he was out caused a lot of really bad rumors and questioning from fans. If they had just let out what was going on I think that this wouldn’t have happened. No one needed to know his private life, but you can’t expect the public to just not speculate and create rumors for clicks.
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Post#292 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Apr 5, 2023 4:25 pm

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Onus wrote:I've got to say the Warriors did really well with this Wiggins situation. That includes the media covering this.

And to the posters saying why was he still getting paid, remember he took less to stay.


It’s fine that they handled it this way, but not giving the reason he was out caused a lot of really bad rumors and questioning from fans. If they had just let out what was going on I think that this wouldn’t have happened. No one needed to know his private life, but you can’t expect the public to just not speculate and create rumors for clicks.


I dont get the victim blaming. The dubs, and especially wiggins wanted this kept private. He isnt comfortable telling the world about what he and his family is going through. It's his choice. It should be respected.

The blame should be on the people who create and spread these outlandish rumors on the internet. Wiggs and the Warriors organization did nothing wrong. In fact, they did everything right.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#293 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Wed Apr 5, 2023 4:37 pm

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Onus wrote:I've got to say the Warriors did really well with this Wiggins situation. That includes the media covering this.

And to the posters saying why was he still getting paid, remember he took less to stay.


It’s fine that they handled it this way, but not giving the reason he was out caused a lot of really bad rumors and questioning from fans. If they had just let out what was going on I think that this wouldn’t have happened. No one needed to know his private life, but you can’t expect the public to just not speculate and create rumors for clicks.

No, crappy fans caused a lot of really bad rumors and questioning from fans. If they had said what was happening, I think we have empirical evidence those same crappy fans would have just posted different crappy things. Ultimately I have a funny feeling they did what Wiggins wanted, and that's the correct answer.
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Post#294 » by Big J » Wed Apr 5, 2023 4:47 pm

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Onus wrote:I've got to say the Warriors did really well with this Wiggins situation. That includes the media covering this.

And to the posters saying why was he still getting paid, remember he took less to stay.


It’s fine that they handled it this way, but not giving the reason he was out caused a lot of really bad rumors and questioning from fans. If they had just let out what was going on I think that this wouldn’t have happened. No one needed to know his private life, but you can’t expect the public to just not speculate and create rumors for clicks.

No, crappy fans caused a lot of really bad rumors and questioning from fans. If they had said what was happening, I think we have empirical evidence those same crappy fans would have just posted different crappy things. Ultimately I have a funny feeling they did what Wiggins wanted, and that's the correct answer.


Yea, but any rumors that were made up if an official statement had been made wouldn’t have gained traction like the one about his girlfriend did. I am not saying they should have gone against Wiggins wishes.
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Post#295 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Apr 5, 2023 4:54 pm

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Post#296 » by Onus » Wed Apr 5, 2023 5:01 pm

Crazy that he's doubtful for Friday. He really might not play until the playoffs. Will need to make sure we get a top 6 seed.
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Post#297 » by Big J » Wed Apr 5, 2023 5:07 pm

Onus wrote:Crazy that he's doubtful for Friday. He really might not play until the playoffs. Will need to make sure we get a top 6 seed.


Same thing happened with Curry last year.
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Post#298 » by wco81 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 9:58 pm

Hoping he can contribute this year though I don't think we know whether the team will have enough time before Wiggins gets near his peak conditioning as well as rhythm.

Not sure why it was such a big deal that he and they couldn't simply say his father was ill and he's by his side.

Now would more fans have been critical if they knew the reason was a illness in the family?

It's not like his father's medical history would have been broadcast on social media or something.
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Post#299 » by parsnips33 » Wed Apr 5, 2023 10:19 pm

wco81 wrote:Hoping he can contribute this year though I don't think we know whether the team will have enough time before Wiggins gets near his peak conditioning as well as rhythm.

Not sure why it was such a big deal that he and they couldn't simply say his father was ill and he's by his side.

Now would more fans have been critical if they knew the reason was a illness in the family?

It's not like his father's medical history would have been broadcast on social media or something.


Seems like it was just a matter of personal preference on Wiggins' part and the team was happy to oblige.

With how much these guys are constantly in the spotlight, I can sympathize with wanting to keep something, especially something this painful, private.
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Post#300 » by Onus » Thu Apr 6, 2023 12:13 am

Wiggins shut down for the last 2 games
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