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Post#321 » by mos_def » Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:46 pm

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mos_def wrote:Can you imagine if the GS pick lands in the top 3. The Mobly vs Suggs or Green convos?


The craziest scenario would be if the Warriors ended up with the #4 pick and Mobley somehow slipped to them. They would be forced to do the right thing, pick Mobley and jettison Wiseman.


Why would we have to ship Wiseman? I see Mobley as a Bosh power forward than a Center. WIseman I always saw as a center
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Post#322 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:21 pm

mos_def wrote:
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mos_def wrote:Can you imagine if the GS pick lands in the top 3. The Mobly vs Suggs or Green convos?


The craziest scenario would be if the Warriors ended up with the #4 pick and Mobley somehow slipped to them. They would be forced to do the right thing, pick Mobley and jettison Wiseman.


Why would we have to ship Wiseman? I see Mobley as a Bosh power forward than a Center. WIseman I always saw as a center


Yeah, Wiseman is definitely a traditional center who does not have a perimeter game (But, he can prove us wrong). Any player that's 7' or taller is, by NBA definition and standard, a legit C.

But, what sets them apart are the skills they're equipped with or has shown potential as to what they can do besides their physical attributes (aka Unicorns). Joker is really a PG in a 4/5 body who can also rebound and score. KD is really a 2/3 who can score, play the perimeter game, rebound, create for others, block shots, etc.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#323 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:38 pm

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Scoots1994 wrote:We knew Davion was short.

This short, though? Even his WS is underwhelming at 6'4.25''. He's in the bottom 5 in height, wingspan and standing reach in the combine. That's rough for someone who's not a pure PG, soon turns 23 and has defense as one of his calling cards.

and1GS wrote:Someone asked about SGs earlier - I like Moody and he could drop to the 14.

Highly unlikely. If you want Moody, you'd have to take him with the MIN pick if it converts.


His "shoes" height is close to that listed 6'2" from college. He's just a bulldog. I have him on my consider list for 14.

I've seen Moody anywhere from 6 to 17 in mock drafts. He's a fairly complete 3 & D player, his floor is high, is ceiling doesn't seem to be.
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Post#324 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:42 pm

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shazam_guy wrote:I mentioned Moody in an earlier post -- a couple of months ago -- and was told by one of our resident experts that he wouldn't be worth our slot in the draft (approx. 13-15 at that point.) I liked him as a choice and still do.


I remember the year Klay got drafted I was pitching him on this very board for that 11th pick. I was told by many that he was someone who should be drafted in the 20s. I always thought Moody would go around 8 to 12, so I dont think its a reach of Minny pick converts.

Can you imagine if the GS pick lands in the top 3. The Mobly vs Suggs or Green convos?


Moody is in play for sure, but that group from 7-15 is pretty unsettled for me.

If they get #1 they take Cade and don't look back.
If they get #2 is where it gets interesting, I'd be okay with Mobley or Green.
If they get #3 and Cade and Mobley are gone then it's Green for me.
If they get #4 they take the one who is left.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#325 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:44 pm

Old_Blue wrote:
mos_def wrote:Can you imagine if the GS pick lands in the top 3. The Mobly vs Suggs or Green convos?


The craziest scenario would be if the Warriors ended up with the #4 pick and Mobley somehow slipped to them. They would be forced to do the right thing, pick Mobley and jettison Wiseman.


I think they would go into the season with both.

Starters:
Curry
Klay
Wiggins
Green
Olynyk

Bench
McConnell
Poole
Giddey
Mobley
Wiseman

That looks fun to me.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#326 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:47 pm

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mos_def wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
The craziest scenario would be if the Warriors ended up with the #4 pick and Mobley somehow slipped to them. They would be forced to do the right thing, pick Mobley and jettison Wiseman.


Why would we have to ship Wiseman? I see Mobley as a Bosh power forward than a Center. WIseman I always saw as a center


Yeah, Wiseman is definitely a traditional center who does not have a perimeter game (But, he can prove us wrong). Any player that's 7' or taller is, by NBA definition and standard, a legit C.

But, what sets them apart are the skills they're equipped with or has shown potential as to what they can do besides their physical attributes (aka Unicorns). Joker is really a PG in a 4/5 body who can also rebound and score. KD is really a 2/3 who can score, play the perimeter game, rebound, create for others, block shots, etc.


Agreed. Wiseman is left handed, Mobley is right handed, they can play with each other with different preferred positions. Mobley is more mobile and can easily play NBA 4.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#327 » by FNQ » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:16 pm

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and1GS wrote:Someone asked about SGs earlier - I like Moody and he could drop to the 14. He plays more like a robot, but works hard on defense, great size and has a fairly reliable shooting form. He could end up being absolutely nothing as he doesn't have an elite skill, but he has all the tools to be a very solid 3 and D plug and play starter.


No way he drops to 14.. he's in the Klay/Hield model and that is extremely sought after. Probably has one of the highest floors of anyone in this class. Frankly I think he's more likely to go before our 1st pick than make it to our 2nd


I'm just going off The Ringer's mock and big board. Both of which have him at either 15 or 16. ESPN also has him at 18.


Dare to dream, holy ****..

I remember watching him play and thinking, that guy's Klay, with a little splash of Poole. I remember Klay for WSU, and I remember being impressed with him as a college player, but thinking 'where's the upside? what he's going to learn to be better?'

Well sometimes its not about learning new things, its about refining what you're already great at, and making it work at the highest level. Moody *screams* this type of player. He's super lengthy, high release point (although he could speed up his windup - and has, but not consistently), and he did a lot of damage without dribbling. And frankly I think he's long enough to be a SF, one who can push Wiggins to the bench mob when Klay's back at 100%, if we wanted to go that route.

If a player of that caliber somehow drops to us at 14, then the basketball gods have smiled upon us. Of course if we Gary Trent Jr this situation again..
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread 

Post#328 » by FNQ » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:17 pm

The one drawback I have on Moody, and its frustrating, is that every time he's going to take a shot, he moves the ball down to get into a rhythm, and you cant tell on yourself in the NBA. It tells the defender to go all out to block the jumper, and Moody wasnt the type to pump fake and drive much

but the rest? :love: :love: :love:

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Post#329 » by GSWFan1994 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:23 pm

Let's go, ****!!
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Post#330 » by marthafokker » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:05 pm

90 minutes to go. I don't want to see GSW with the first card shown!
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Post#331 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:10 pm

marthafokker wrote:90 minutes to go. I don't want to see GSW with the first card shown!


Wouldn't that be crazy....but lets not get silly...Warriors card will show.

I hope Wolves pick shows up 4-6....I'd be down with those two picks....Maybe combine the two first rounder to add some vet help to the Warriors.

Wiseman...Poole....I think that's enough youth.
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Post#332 » by Old_Blue » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:25 pm

I had a dream that we ended up with the #3 pick.
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Post#333 » by Rudruff » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:41 pm

All agreed that #2 and #4 or worse and we complain that Silver rigged it against us?
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Post#334 » by Old_Blue » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:44 pm

Rudruff wrote:All agreed that #2 and #4 or worse and we complain that Silver rigged it against us?


David Stern was good at rigging drafts. He didn't even make much of an attempt to hide it either. I don't get that vibe from Adam Silver. He strikes me as a let the chips fall where they may sort of guy.
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Post#335 » by GS Warriors 1 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:05 am

Not gonna get my hopes up, #6 and #14 are my targets. If Minnesota's card doesn't come up at 6, then I'm pretty damn sure they're keeping the pick.
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Post#336 » by shazam_guy » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:21 am

FNQ wrote:The one drawback I have on Moody, and its frustrating, is that every time he's going to take a shot, he moves the ball down to get into a rhythm, and you cant tell on yourself in the NBA. It tells the defender to go all out to block the jumper, and Moody wasnt the type to pump fake and drive much

but the rest? :love: :love: :love:



A legitimate concern, but supposedly that's what coaching -- at least professional NBA coaching -- should be able to fix.
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Post#337 » by shazam_guy » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:22 am

Warriors haven't got a lottery ball above their seasonal slot since 1995, I think. (Joe Smith year.)
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Post#338 » by Old_Blue » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:49 am

#7...We got jobbed.
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Post#339 » by Onus » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:50 am

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Post#340 » by Hoopstar23 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:51 am

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