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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#321 » by cpower » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:52 am

ILOVEIT wrote:"If he doesn't score then..." lol

Watch this highlight package. Yes, this is a guy Kerr just couldn't figure out how to play. :banghead:

If Warriors trade Kuminga for some average "connector" type player, we deserve to get an injured older player and out in the first round. ALL it would have taken to have a ready JK was Kerr nurturing JK's talent so he was CONFIDENT when he came in the game. What did Kerr do? Instead, he ran the old guys into the ground, refusing to give JK any minutes until he had no other option.

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you still did not get it did you...its not about 1 guy scoring, its about how offense operates when you main guy is on the floor. This is why despite Steve Nash only scores 18 a game he generates some of the best offensive teams in the league history.. Nobody gives a damn of how many points JK scores, if he scores 5 points but able to anchor the league best offense without Steph, sure lets max him..

Kerr has made it very clear that JK is a bad offensive player, with good raw athletic abilities but bad scoring efficiency/bbIQ. I dont think many GMs are biting because he is young and can jump.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#322 » by Jax_23 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:28 am

cpower wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:"If he doesn't score then..." lol

Watch this highlight package. Yes, this is a guy Kerr just couldn't figure out how to play. :banghead:

If Warriors trade Kuminga for some average "connector" type player, we deserve to get an injured older player and out in the first round. ALL it would have taken to have a ready JK was Kerr nurturing JK's talent so he was CONFIDENT when he came in the game. What did Kerr do? Instead, he ran the old guys into the ground, refusing to give JK any minutes until he had no other option.

[url][/url]

you still did not get it did you...its not about 1 guy scoring, its about how offense operates when you main guy is on the floor. This is why despite Steve Nash only scores 18 a game he generates some of the best offensive teams in the league history.. Nobody gives a damn of how many points JK scores, if he scores 5 points but able to anchor the league best offense without Steph, sure lets max him..

Kerr has made it very clear that JK is a bad offensive player, with good raw athletic abilities but bad scoring efficiency/bbIQ. I dont think many GMs are biting because he is young and can jump.



I think you're short changing JK. Not only can he do more than just run and jump, he can score in a variety of ways and is really a mismatch problem for many defenders. He was a factor in the playoffs when he finally got some minutes. On top of that he's still young and has a high ceiling -- unlike players like Podz and Moody, low ceiling players.

I don't think it's whether he can fit into the offense, it's more of a timeline thing. We got old vets who are trying to win now, JK is 100% the type of player who needs to just have at least 1 season of endless minutes, win or lose, long leash, play through his mistakes on a shtty team, etc., like the Orlando Magic were allowed to just develop with no pressure to win. Kerr is not that coach for him, actually probably the worst coach he can have considering what he needs for his career. Warriors are just a bad fit right now, but he definitely has trade value for the right team like the Nets or someone.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#323 » by AirP. » Yesterday 5:48 pm

If money isn't an issue (tax), retain Kuminga at a good chunky contract and get his contract as the biggest contract going out to get into the Giannis sweepstakes during the season. Kuminga + contracts + draft assets could make it interesting, especially if Kerr pairs Butler and Curry more (to get better use to each other for the playoffs) while letting Kuminga be the #1 option when Curry is off the court (probably Butler off the court too). GS then gets another franchise player who probably can play at this level for 5+years and it's possible Curry and Butler fall off but resign for way less to support Giannis in 2+ years.

Resigning Kuminga is probably the best option because of the 50% of his salary apron rule and then moving Kuminga later unless the wheels fall off this current build of Curry and Butler.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#324 » by AirP. » Yesterday 5:57 pm

Jax_23 wrote:
cpower wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:"If he doesn't score then..." lol

Watch this highlight package. Yes, this is a guy Kerr just couldn't figure out how to play. :banghead:

If Warriors trade Kuminga for some average "connector" type player, we deserve to get an injured older player and out in the first round. ALL it would have taken to have a ready JK was Kerr nurturing JK's talent so he was CONFIDENT when he came in the game. What did Kerr do? Instead, he ran the old guys into the ground, refusing to give JK any minutes until he had no other option.

[url][/url]

you still did not get it did you...its not about 1 guy scoring, its about how offense operates when you main guy is on the floor. This is why despite Steve Nash only scores 18 a game he generates some of the best offensive teams in the league history.. Nobody gives a damn of how many points JK scores, if he scores 5 points but able to anchor the league best offense without Steph, sure lets max him..

Kerr has made it very clear that JK is a bad offensive player, with good raw athletic abilities but bad scoring efficiency/bbIQ. I dont think many GMs are biting because he is young and can jump.



I think you're short changing JK. Not only can he do more than just run and jump, he can score in a variety of ways and is really a mismatch problem for many defenders. He was a factor in the playoffs when he finally got some minutes. On top of that he's still young and has a high ceiling -- unlike players like Podz and Moody, low ceiling players.

I don't think it's whether he can fit into the offense, it's more of a timeline thing. We got old vets who are trying to win now, JK is 100% the type of player who needs to just have at least 1 season of endless minutes, win or lose, long leash, play through his mistakes on a shtty team, etc., like the Orlando Magic were allowed to just develop with no pressure to win. Kerr is not that coach for him, actually probably the worst coach he can have considering what he needs for his career. Warriors are just a bad fit right now, but he definitely has trade value for the right team like the Nets or someone.

You have to build your team completely different to really use Kuminga, he's an ISO player who doesn't really look to pass. Having a guy who isn't even an every day starter call his number over an all-time great like Curry on the court doesn't really make me feel like he's willing to play a lesser role than the #1 option when he finally gets paid and will have more say. BTW, I don't see any team having great success with Kuminga being their #1 FGA guy, he needs to change his mindset and maybe a trade could help him do that. I don't think his mindset changes in Golden State, especially if he gets a sizable contract (which I now think GS will give him which gives them more options this next season with the roster).
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#325 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Yesterday 11:04 pm

Jax_23 wrote:
cpower wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:"If he doesn't score then..." lol

Watch this highlight package. Yes, this is a guy Kerr just couldn't figure out how to play. :banghead:

If Warriors trade Kuminga for some average "connector" type player, we deserve to get an injured older player and out in the first round. ALL it would have taken to have a ready JK was Kerr nurturing JK's talent so he was CONFIDENT when he came in the game. What did Kerr do? Instead, he ran the old guys into the ground, refusing to give JK any minutes until he had no other option.

[url][/url]

you still did not get it did you...its not about 1 guy scoring, its about how offense operates when you main guy is on the floor. This is why despite Steve Nash only scores 18 a game he generates some of the best offensive teams in the league history.. Nobody gives a damn of how many points JK scores, if he scores 5 points but able to anchor the league best offense without Steph, sure lets max him..

Kerr has made it very clear that JK is a bad offensive player, with good raw athletic abilities but bad scoring efficiency/bbIQ. I dont think many GMs are biting because he is young and can jump.



I think you're short changing JK. Not only can he do more than just run and jump, he can score in a variety of ways and is really a mismatch problem for many defenders. He was a factor in the playoffs when he finally got some minutes. On top of that he's still young and has a high ceiling -- unlike players like Podz and Moody, low ceiling players.

I don't think it's whether he can fit into the offense, it's more of a timeline thing. We got old vets who are trying to win now, JK is 100% the type of player who needs to just have at least 1 season of endless minutes, win or lose, long leash, play through his mistakes on a shtty team, etc., like the Orlando Magic were allowed to just develop with no pressure to win. Kerr is not that coach for him, actually probably the worst coach he can have considering what he needs for his career. Warriors are just a bad fit right now, but he definitely has trade value for the right team like the Nets or someone.



JK can score in a variety of ways? Relative to who? The guys drives and spins. That's it. He has bo bag.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#326 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Yesterday 11:06 pm

Jax_23 wrote:
cpower wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:"If he doesn't score then..." lol

Watch this highlight package. Yes, this is a guy Kerr just couldn't figure out how to play. :banghead:

If Warriors trade Kuminga for some average "connector" type player, we deserve to get an injured older player and out in the first round. ALL it would have taken to have a ready JK was Kerr nurturing JK's talent so he was CONFIDENT when he came in the game. What did Kerr do? Instead, he ran the old guys into the ground, refusing to give JK any minutes until he had no other option.

[url][/url]

you still did not get it did you...its not about 1 guy scoring, its about how offense operates when you main guy is on the floor. This is why despite Steve Nash only scores 18 a game he generates some of the best offensive teams in the league history.. Nobody gives a damn of how many points JK scores, if he scores 5 points but able to anchor the league best offense without Steph, sure lets max him..

Kerr has made it very clear that JK is a bad offensive player, with good raw athletic abilities but bad scoring efficiency/bbIQ. I dont think many GMs are biting because he is young and can jump.



I think you're short changing JK. Not only can he do more than just run and jump, he can score in a variety of ways and is really a mismatch problem for many defenders. He was a factor in the playoffs when he finally got some minutes. On top of that he's still young and has a high ceiling -- unlike players like Podz and Moody, low ceiling players.

I don't think it's whether he can fit into the offense, it's more of a timeline thing. We got old vets who are trying to win now, JK is 100% the type of player who needs to just have at least 1 season of endless minutes, win or lose, long leash, play through his mistakes on a shtty team, etc., like the Orlando Magic were allowed to just develop with no pressure to win. Kerr is not that coach for him, actually probably the worst coach he can have considering what he needs for his career. Warriors are just a bad fit right now, but he definitely has trade value for the right team like the Nets or someone.



JK can score in a variety of ways? Relative to who? The guys drives and spins. That's it. He has bo bag.

He can't even drive from the corner because he has no game. He has to be at the top of the key, which is the space Draymond and Curry usually occupy.

It's been 4 years of hoping that this athletic forward that can't rebound will somehow develop a game. He hasn't. It's time to move on.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#327 » by cpower » Today 3:43 am

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Jax_23 wrote:
cpower wrote:you still did not get it did you...its not about 1 guy scoring, its about how offense operates when you main guy is on the floor. This is why despite Steve Nash only scores 18 a game he generates some of the best offensive teams in the league history.. Nobody gives a damn of how many points JK scores, if he scores 5 points but able to anchor the league best offense without Steph, sure lets max him..

Kerr has made it very clear that JK is a bad offensive player, with good raw athletic abilities but bad scoring efficiency/bbIQ. I dont think many GMs are biting because he is young and can jump.



I think you're short changing JK. Not only can he do more than just run and jump, he can score in a variety of ways and is really a mismatch problem for many defenders. He was a factor in the playoffs when he finally got some minutes. On top of that he's still young and has a high ceiling -- unlike players like Podz and Moody, low ceiling players.

I don't think it's whether he can fit into the offense, it's more of a timeline thing. We got old vets who are trying to win now, JK is 100% the type of player who needs to just have at least 1 season of endless minutes, win or lose, long leash, play through his mistakes on a shtty team, etc., like the Orlando Magic were allowed to just develop with no pressure to win. Kerr is not that coach for him, actually probably the worst coach he can have considering what he needs for his career. Warriors are just a bad fit right now, but he definitely has trade value for the right team like the Nets or someone.



JK can score in a variety of ways? Relative to who? The guys drives and spins. That's it. He has bo bag.

He can't even drive from the corner because he has no game. He has to be at the top of the key, which is the space Draymond and Curry usually occupy.

It's been 4 years of hoping that this athletic forward that can't rebound will somehow develop a game. He hasn't. It's time to move on.

he is also scoring a below league avg and shooting poo poo on the FT... i will probably bet JK retires earlier than Curry, who wants him once he turns 25-26 year old?

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