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Post#321 » by statsman » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:13 am

marthafokker wrote:Damn... Dubs could have gotten Huff for free, with the trade exception? Huff is an upgrade from Post already easily.

Using the traded player exception from last season would hard cap the team at the 1st apron. If they keep Kuminga, almost certainly they will go past the 1st apron.
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Post#322 » by statsman » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:14 am

Well, one way or another, the Warriors will be making a move in free agency, involving Kuminga.
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Post#323 » by bay2hk » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:14 pm

I think the end game is for Warriors to stay under the 1st apron. We’re now playing a game of chicken with JK and his agent.

Warriors may be hamstrung in FA until JK’s situation is figured out, but I can see one scenario where Warriors do nothing until JK accepts the QO or a contract extension. We can then use the Lindy and Kyle Anderson TPE to trade for players before the season starts. I bet there will be teams willing to give us draft capitals to take on expiring contracts they do not want or have the roster space for when the season starts.
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Post#324 » by CS707 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:22 pm

I think they’re also banking on convincing Horford and also maybe Beal on the buyout market. Possibly a long shot given the cap situation laid out in the other thread but I also expect they wouldn’t be waiting around if they didn’t think there was realistic chance.
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Post#325 » by Old_Blue » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:42 pm

CS707 wrote:I think they’re also banking on convincing Horford and also maybe Beal on the buyout market. Possibly a long shot given the cap situation laid out in the other thread but I also expect they wouldn’t be waiting around if they didn’t think there was realistic chance.


If the Dubs landed Beal, you'd have to think that Hield would be out the door, which would save the team about $5.5 million. At that point, the Dubs could offer Kuminga something like 3 years / $50 million and still stay under the 1st salary apron. He and his agent can balk all they want. The market for him just isn't there.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#326 » by bay2hk » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:46 pm

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CS707 wrote:I think they’re also banking on convincing Horford and also maybe Beal on the buyout market. Possibly a long shot given the cap situation laid out in the other thread but I also expect they wouldn’t be waiting around if they didn’t think there was realistic chance.


If the Dubs landed Beal, you'd have to think that Hield would be out the door, which would save the team about $5.5 million. At that point, the Dubs could offer Kuminga something like 3 years / $50 million and still stay under the 1st salary apron. He and his agent can balk all they want. The market for him just isn't there.


I was also thinking that is likely the offer to JK. We also have the BAE which we can use on Hordord, and leaves us enough space to sign our SRPs plus one minimum vet FA on a non guaranteed contract to give us flexibility on the buyout market.
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Post#327 » by donkeylips » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:52 pm

I was thinking the second rounders would get 2 of the two way spots
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Post#328 » by TrueFan420 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:13 pm

Old_Blue wrote:
CS707 wrote:I think they’re also banking on convincing Horford and also maybe Beal on the buyout market. Possibly a long shot given the cap situation laid out in the other thread but I also expect they wouldn’t be waiting around if they didn’t think there was realistic chance.


If the Dubs landed Beal, you'd have to think that Hield would be out the door, which would save the team about $5.5 million. At that point, the Dubs could offer Kuminga something like 3 years / $50 million and still stay under the 1st salary apron. He and his agent can balk all they want. The market for him just isn't there.

Some massive “ifs” on whether he’s bought out then whether he’d even want to come here. But let’s say those both happen… why would Buddy need to go? We clearly need shooting and scoring and Buddy is on a great deal and super close with Jimmy. I see no reason why Beal on a vet min or whatever his contract would be that would land him here in this crazy what if scenario would require Buddy to leave.
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Post#329 » by AirP. » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:02 pm

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Post#330 » by AirP. » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:36 pm

With step 1 finally finished GS can move to step 2 of moving Mashack to Memphis then step 3 will be to sign Will Richard. Although agreed on, it has to be finallized once the previous steps are finalized by the NBA league office..
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Post#331 » by vvoland » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:38 pm

Meaning, the might play today?
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Post#332 » by statsman » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:41 pm

I still do not have a concrete reason why the Warriors *had* to be included in the 7 team trade. No complete explanation or report has been posted that I have seen.
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Post#333 » by AirP. » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:41 pm

vvoland wrote:Meaning, the might play today?

I'm pretty sure Toohey can, not sure if the next 2 steps will be completed by game time for Richard to play. I would think 3 hours is enough time to get everything finalized.
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Post#334 » by vvoland » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:34 pm

Backup pg might be tough with only Brogdon and morris still out there. Still lots of room to pick up quality depth and if they end up with horford, morris, and amir Coffey, I think it'd be a success.

any interest in ben Simmons on the min to take the tjd minutes?
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Post#335 » by bay2hk » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:51 pm

donkeylips wrote:I was thinking the second rounders would get 2 of the two way spots


The reason we picked two second rounders is to have bodies on the roster to meet the 14 players minimum requirement when season starts. Second round rookie contracts is only about $1m per year and it will help us stay under the first apron.

Being below the first apron will allow us to use the NTMLE, BAE, TPE and/or participate in the buyout market for players with salaries above the NTMLE.
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Post#336 » by vvoland » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:05 pm

bay2hk wrote:
donkeylips wrote:I was thinking the second rounders would get 2 of the two way spots


The reason we picked two second rounders is to have bodies on the roster to meet the 14 players minimum requirement when season starts. Second round rookie contracts is only about $1m per year and it will help us stay under the first apron.

Being below the first apron will allow us to use the NTMLE, BAE, TPE and/or participate in the buyout market for players with salaries above the NTMLE.


Wouldn't we have to not only get under, but stay under the first apron while using the tools you listed? If so, and the first apron is 196, we already have 170 committed to Steph, Jimmy, dray, mm, buddy, podz, post. 172 if we roster both 2nd rounders. If we use the NTMLE, that'll put us at 186 with only 8 NBA level players and 2 late seconds. If we keep TJD and gui, we'd be just over 190 with two more roster spots we'd need to fill, unless we split the MLE.

I just don't see letting jk walk just to use the NTMLE.
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Post#337 » by AirP. » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:07 pm

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Post#338 » by bay2hk » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:28 pm

vvoland wrote:
bay2hk wrote:
donkeylips wrote:I was thinking the second rounders would get 2 of the two way spots


The reason we picked two second rounders is to have bodies on the roster to meet the 14 players minimum requirement when season starts. Second round rookie contracts is only about $1m per year and it will help us stay under the first apron.

Being below the first apron will allow us to use the NTMLE, BAE, TPE and/or participate in the buyout market for players with salaries above the NTMLE.


Wouldn't we have to not only get under, but stay under the first apron while using the tools you listed? If so, and the first apron is 196, we already have 170 committed to Steph, Jimmy, dray, mm, buddy, podz, post. 172 if we roster both 2nd rounders. If we use the NTMLE, that'll put us at 186 with only 8 NBA level players and 2 late seconds. If we keep TJD and gui, we'd be just over 190 with two more roster spots we'd need to fill, unless we split the MLE.

I just don't see letting jk walk just to use the NTMLE.


We’re def not letting JK walk for nothing. We can still use the NTMLE if JK takes the QO. Which is becoming more likely as each day passes. In that case then we’ll split the NTMLE.

I think the most warriors can offer to JK and still stay under the Apron is ~$15m starting salary which will allow us to use the BAE, and sign another vet min plus the 2 second rounders. We have 9 players under contract currently btw. So adding JK, Al horford, vet min, and our 2 SRPs will equal to the required 14 players.
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Post#339 » by vvoland » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:44 pm

bay2hk wrote:
vvoland wrote:
bay2hk wrote:
The reason we picked two second rounders is to have bodies on the roster to meet the 14 players minimum requirement when season starts. Second round rookie contracts is only about $1m per year and it will help us stay under the first apron.

Being below the first apron will allow us to use the NTMLE, BAE, TPE and/or participate in the buyout market for players with salaries above the NTMLE.


Wouldn't we have to not only get under, but stay under the first apron while using the tools you listed? If so, and the first apron is 196, we already have 170 committed to Steph, Jimmy, dray, mm, buddy, podz, post. 172 if we roster both 2nd rounders. If we use the NTMLE, that'll put us at 186 with only 8 NBA level players and 2 late seconds. If we keep TJD and gui, we'd be just over 190 with two more roster spots we'd need to fill, unless we split the MLE.

I just don't see letting jk walk just to use the NTMLE.


We’re def not letting JK walk for nothing. We can still use the NTMLE if JK takes the QO. Which is becoming more likely as each day passes. In that case then we’ll split the NTMLE.

I think the most warriors can offer to JK and still stay under the Apron is ~$15m starting salary which will allow us to use the BAE, and sign another vet min plus the 2 second rounders. We have 9 players under contract currently btw. So adding JK, Al horford, vet min, and our 2 SRPs will equal to the required 14 players.



I don't think that math is mathing. Jk @ 8M would make it 180m for 10 players. That would leave us with 16M for 4 spots. If two of them are tjd and Santos, we'd be at 184 for 12 players. One more vet min would get us to 187, leaving us with $9m for the last spot. If he signed for 15, we would be right at the first apron with just the minimums. If I'm wrong on my math, let me know
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Post#340 » by bay2hk » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:45 am

vvoland wrote:
bay2hk wrote:
vvoland wrote:
Wouldn't we have to not only get under, but stay under the first apron while using the tools you listed? If so, and the first apron is 196, we already have 170 committed to Steph, Jimmy, dray, mm, buddy, podz, post. 172 if we roster both 2nd rounders. If we use the NTMLE, that'll put us at 186 with only 8 NBA level players and 2 late seconds. If we keep TJD and gui, we'd be just over 190 with two more roster spots we'd need to fill, unless we split the MLE.

I just don't see letting jk walk just to use the NTMLE.


We’re def not letting JK walk for nothing. We can still use the NTMLE if JK takes the QO. Which is becoming more likely as each day passes. In that case then we’ll split the NTMLE.

I think the most warriors can offer to JK and still stay under the Apron is ~$15m starting salary which will allow us to use the BAE, and sign another vet min plus the 2 second rounders. We have 9 players under contract currently btw. So adding JK, Al horford, vet min, and our 2 SRPs will equal to the required 14 players.



I don't think that math is mathing. Jk @ 8M would make it 180m for 10 players. That would leave us with 16M for 4 spots. If two of them are tjd and Santos, we'd be at 184 for 12 players. One more vet min would get us to 187, leaving us with $9m for the last spot. If he signed for 15, we would be right at the first apron with just the minimums. If I'm wrong on my math, let me know


$170m includes GUI and TJD… we also picked up GUI’s option already. Our SRPs would only count at $1m each during their first year.

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