2020 Draft Thread, Part 2

Mav_Carter · Post #341 » by **Mav_Carter** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:54 pm

Warriors have now said they don't like Melo, Wiseman, or Edwards...

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jason bourne · Post #342 » by **jason bourne** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:05 pm

northoakland510 wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
ShayDee wrote:What does Embidd have to do with this? Wiseman will foul out guarding him? And the other prospects wont? Or are you bringing up that Embiid had 5.8 fouls per 40 in college? I don't understand where you getting at here? Which rookie will not foul out guarding Embiid?

Also he is a quitter? If you were in his position what will you do? Pay up and play? The kid has had a clean record since high school? Or you wanna use he taking money as a knock? How much money did Zion collect before going to Duke?

Bro try again

I'm saying your bit and punkass James Wiseman will foul out if he tried to guard All-Star Joel Embiid. He's not that great defensively and doesn't have a shot while Joel Embiid has it all (second team All-Defense). Most people would understand this.

And forget about those others as it doesn't make any sense.

C'mon this is for a huge payday during the NBA draft. Yes, I would get a loan from family or find a part-time job to pay for the fines. Wiseman is too stupid to figure this out. It shows he's dumb asf and a a quitter.

Let's see how Wiseman does in the NBA draft workouts. I hope there is some kind of combine measurements, too. I'd love to see Wiseman run up and down court and pull up for a jumper. Or get guarded by someone and get his shot off in a professional workout. He missed the rest of the season unlike his peers, so may be huffin' and puffin' and out of shape.

Dang what Wiseman do to you?

Nothng. All I'm saying is don't draft a big man near the top of the draft unless he's Tim Duncan.

ShayDee · Post #343 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:08 pm

Mav_Carter wrote:Warriors have now said they don't like Melo, Wiseman, or Edwards...

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I was all in for Edwards from the beginning, but because of this kind of reports turned me away from him. I have suspects about how much he wants to win or be the best player. Like Wiggins he is extremely talented. Honestly all 3 prospects have this issue, they are talented but do not put it all on the court

Someone like Deni/Okoro are less talented but they give it their all. But Like I have been saying Wiseman is the less risky of the 3 players. There are reports(like have posted) that he is very coachable and hard working. I have been saying from the start if we are at 2 or 1 Wiseman is the pick. At least he shows effort all the time. An indication of this is his motor to get a rebound. He really boxes out and goes hard for the ball. Give me that sort of player all day

Sometimes I roll my eyes when I saw reports of Warriors drafting Edwards that they love him lol. I was like no way because he is not a warriors kind of player, the only reason they do this is because of his upside. But I think the trade market might have finally put them to their senses. Most teams are requesting Ball, so now you will see reports like these coming out about Edwards from us so fans won't get angry if we skip. Warriors also don't want Ball. So it's between Deni and Wiseman I think. But If they want a player with trade value it is going to suck very very very hard, because Lamelo is the only one teams want right now. But he cannot play for our team. Fit is there, it will be tough for Kerr to use him. Cannot play the same floor with Steph and Klay, might not try on defense. It's just going to be tough. And I really think they don't want Wiseman as well. But you cannot Deni Wiseman has the highest upside

Mav_Carter · Post #344 » by **Mav_Carter** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:12 pm

LOL at anyone who believes any of these reports...

ShayDee · Post #345 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:30 pm

Na, I have a gut feeling they deep down don't like Edwards. His attitude is not Warriors-esque

vetmin · Post #346 » by **vetmin** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:18 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Some rumor material coming from Phoenix perspective with the Warriors landing Oubre and No.10.

The offers were pretty underwhelming. Lesson learned: A top pick in this draft doesn’t hold nearly the value as most years. Detroit offered up a Blake Griffin for Andrew Wiggins toxic contract swap, attached to a 2 for 7 flip and added third-year guard Luke Kennard. Nope. Wiggins is younger, healthier and plays a more valued position. Griffin, Draymond Green and Eric Paschall sounds like spacing hell. The Knicks were interested in jumping up, but wouldn’t give up Mitchell Robinson to do so. Julius Randle and Bobby Portis were on the table. Again: Nope. The Warriors should be able to find something better with that $17.2 million trade exception. Ding. Found. The Suns were willing to deal Kelly Oubre and the 10th pick to move up to second. This gives the win-now Warriors an immediate rotation boost on the wing, where they’re desperate, and still a shot at a prospect in the back side of the lottery.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2020/09/25/nba-mock-draft-phoenix-suns-kelly-oubre-trade-golden-state-warriors/3532261001/

Maybe someone else has noted this but just FYI, these are not league rumors, theyre just things that happened in The Athletic’s beat reporter mock draft. The Athletic’s Pistons writer made that trade offer to Anthony Slater, not the actual Pistons FO to Bob Myers.

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Little Digger · Post #347 » by **Little Digger** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:23 pm

LaMelo Ball on his dad, LaVar, saying LaMelo wouldn't be a good fit with the Warriors: "I'm my own man. He has his opinions, and I have mine. I feel like I can do good anywhere I go."

Little Digger · Post #348 » by **Little Digger** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:27 pm

Killian Hayes said he's spoken with the Warriors, and expects to be drafted anywhere between 2 and 10. Of playing with Golden State, he says "Playing with them would be real fun."

Little Digger · Post #349 » by **Little Digger** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:15 pm

Edwards will slip hard on draft night

Mylie10 · Post #350 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:31 pm

Little Digger wrote:Killian Hayes said he's spoken with the Warriors, and expects to be drafted anywhere between 2 and 10. Of playing with Golden State, he says "Playing with them would be real fun."

Not sure I would be happy about it. Would just have to trust them.

I like him better than Ball though

Little Digger · Post #351 » by **Little Digger** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:44 pm

I see LaMelo going #1 ..who goes #2 I have no clue but I seriously doubt it’s Edwards to SF

Little Digger · Post #352 » by **Little Digger** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:55 pm

Concern with Anthony Edwards for a top pick

Teams are worried about Edwards' drive and enthusiasm for winning, and according to a source, the Golden State Warriors aren't a likely landing spot due to these concerns.

Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC.

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven't won at any level, and that he even forgets plays and actions.

He could still get consideration at No. 1 from Minnesota, but most seem to think the Wolves will favor Ball, who should also generate more interest from teams looking to trade up, given his superior star power and potential to transform a struggling team's identity with his flashy playmaking and exciting pace.

Meanwhile, the more we ask around about Edwards, the more we hear concern about his professionalism and ability to impact winning, even if his scoring production carries over.

While a trade could throw off any predraft predictions, the likelihood of Edwards dropping to No. 3 seems to have increased. The Charlotte Hornets would then have a tough call, particularly if James Wiseman is still on the board.

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That’s the Anthony Edwards I know..I was wondering when it would all start leaking out

ShayDee · Post #353 » by **ShayDee** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:56 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #354 » by **Hopper15** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 pm

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Onus · Post #355 » by **Onus** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:30 am

Mav_Carter wrote:Warriors have now said they don't like Melo, Wiseman, or Edwards...

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If you want your guy at 4 or below you better trade up because you’ll be left with lamelo, wiseman or Edwards. Lmao. Warriors playing 4d chess

cdubbz · Post #356 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 am

Hopper15 wrote:

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I truly believe Lamelo has the work ethic and determination to be great. Same with Lonzo. They have that pride in them. Lamelo is trash on defense, shot selection, & shooting, BUT I see him being coachable. Just never had a coach who invested in him because he was always a 1yr hype media project

Mylie10 · Post #357 » by **Mylie10** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:23 am

ShayDee wrote:

Read on Twitter

Lol

jason bourne · Post #358 » by **jason bourne** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:46 am

Mav_Carter wrote:LOL at anyone who believes any of these reports...

This is part of some tweet by Jonathan Wasserman of BR and not a report. There's more besides the Warriors not being interested in AntMan. The TWolves are confused and will trade down and the team they trade with will take LaMelo. Or maybe they take LaMelo.

What seems real are the scouts anxious to get back to their jobs and will even look at workout vids of shooting drills. Inside is one for Deni Avdija and his video. I think these types of videos are being released now for the scouts and teams to look at.

If TWolves trade or take LaMelo, then I'd want the Warriors to grab Anthony Edwards and keep him for themselves. That would be a win for the Warriors. Who wouldn't want a Dwyane Wade or Donovan Mitchell on their team?

I wouldn't put much stock into these reports of the TWolves and Warriors by some Western Conference executive as they seemed based on prior reports.

I do believe the scouts are anxious to do their jobs and the vids and reports will start to leak out now. Even of shooting drills. It's also weird that this tweet generated another negative report on Edwards by NBC's Drew Shiller.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2910623-nba-draft-buzz-if-top-pick-isnt-traded-sources-expect-lamelo-ball-to-go-first

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-unlikely-draft-anthony-edwards-two-reasons

jason bourne · Post #359 » by **jason bourne** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:06 am

Here's what Drew Shiller reported earlier in September. He's also had plenty of other articles on how Bob Myers and Warriors love Anthony Edwards.

"If yours truly was Warriors general manager Bob Myers, the choice at this point probably would be Edwards.

"Golden State believes, per a league source, that Edwards is one of the few players available in this draft who can contribute immediately and develop into a face of the franchise within the next few seasons," the San Francisco's Connor Letourneau wrote in mid-August.

The 19-year-old averaged 19.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 2.8 assists and 1.3 steals during his one season in college. He shot below 30 percent from 3-point range, and scouts question his commitment on the defensive end of the floor."

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-mock-draft-how-lamelo-ball-going-no-1-could-affect-warriors

Mav_Carter · Post #360 » by **Mav_Carter** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:58 am

Onus wrote:
Mav_Carter wrote:Warriors have now said they don't like Melo, Wiseman, or Edwards...

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If you want your guy at 4 or below you better trade up because you’ll be left with lamelo, wiseman or Edwards. Lmao. Warriors playing 4d chess

Exactly this...