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Post#341 » by statsman » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:32 am

How were the Warriors able to have 14 players suit up for this game? I thought 13 was the limit. Are two-way players not counted during the G-League's preseason days?
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Post#342 » by GunnerWRX » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:39 am

Finally a good, complete game against a half decent opponent. The OKC game doesn't count. Started slow maybe due to 3 days of rust. Finished strong. Steph didn't even shoot like his usual self.
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Re: G7 : Warriors v Hornets 

Post#343 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:40 am

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Post#344 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:52 am

What does every player on Charlotte have in common? They play great against teams that don't play defense. :) And...they all suck defensively.
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Post#345 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:53 am

Great game over all. Loved the rotation by Ker when he realized Warriors weren't stopping anyone in the first half.

Lee...is a baller. He makes the game super simple....tough as hell. Becoming a favorite.

Tough start for Curry...nice to see him blow up a bit in the second half :)
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Post#346 » by xdrta+ » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:16 am

statsman wrote:How were the Warriors able to have 14 players suit up for this game? I thought 13 was the limit. Are two-way players not counted during the G-League's preseason days?


For 2021-22 teams can have up to 15 players active for each game.
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Post#347 » by and1GS » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:52 am

This hot start must be a nightmare for whoever was posting those 'I hate this team and you should too' threads a few weeks ago.
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Post#348 » by whatisacenter » Thu Nov 4, 2021 7:05 am

the Ball nuts were quiet after this game...
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Post#349 » by Senchu » Thu Nov 4, 2021 7:41 am

I've been watching Warriors games on league pass this year with Away commentary and so far it has been great. OKC, Hornets, Kings commentators all have been great. Lack of Barnett is really killing my tolerance of Fitz.

Also, did you guys notice when Poole got hot early, Steph did the "Klay got hot, let's feed him" impersonation with Poole. I thought that was a nice wrinkle to their synergy issues.
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Post#350 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 11:21 am

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Sleepy51 wrote:FNQ,

You have access to a lot of this data, right? What is Wiggins most efficient game? Is he better off shooting when given room to shoot or is he more efficiency taking it to the rack? Are we assuming a result not in evidence when we harp on him taking Js instead of driving?

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I’m curious what the math actually looks like on his game. Clearly he believes that he should take long jumpers when the defense is challenging him to knock them down. I’m curious how that compares to his rate converting drives/assists/getting to the free throw line when he takes that open space to attack with a head of steam. We all believe he should be choosing the latter but Inwonder what his actual results over time say.


Not at home, but I still do have access from work CPU.

Warrior history? Just last year? Or overall history (I think data goes back to 2017)

And when you say given room to shoot, do you mean open jumpers (3ft+ of space) or jumpers in general?


I’m curious about the open jumpers mostly but would be interested in overall as well
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Post#351 » by superunknown » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:16 pm

what a game by GPII. baby iggy.
that alley-oop with steph, wow.
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Post#352 » by Impuniti » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:25 pm

and1GS wrote:This hot start must be a nightmare for whoever was posting those 'I hate this team and you should too' threads a few weeks ago.

I wonder who that is :lol:
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Post#353 » by Onus » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:51 pm

I know everyone loves lamelo but can he really be a number 1 option?
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Post#354 » by statsman » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:52 pm

xdrta+ wrote:For 2021-22 teams can have up to 15 players active for each game.

Thanks. Looks like a continuation of the change the league made for the 2020-21 season.
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Post#355 » by cdubbz » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:06 pm

whatisacenter wrote:the Ball nuts were quiet after this game...


not all all!! We are here!!!!

Ha. Great game by GP2.
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Post#356 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:13 pm

Onus wrote:I know everyone loves lamelo but can he really be a number 1 option?


after seeing last night's game, I'm surprised his shooting percentages have been solid since he's been in the NBA. His shot is still ugly af and his shot selection is terrible.
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Re: G7 : Warriors v Hornets 

Post#357 » by Onus » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:36 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
Onus wrote:I know everyone loves lamelo but can he really be a number 1 option?


after seeing last night's game, I'm surprised his shooting percentages have been solid since he's been in the NBA. His shot is still ugly af and his shot selection is terrible.

Yea his shooting percentages have been a huge surprise to me
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Re: G7 : Warriors v Hornets 

Post#358 » by tarantism » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:52 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
Onus wrote:I know everyone loves lamelo but can he really be a number 1 option?


after seeing last night's game, I'm surprised his shooting percentages have been solid since he's been in the NBA. His shot is still ugly af and his shot selection is terrible.
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Re: G7 : Warriors v Hornets 

Post#359 » by Onus » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:54 pm

Apparently Steph was sick last night and congested. So that's why he had such a poor game for him
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Re: G7 : Warriors v Hornets 

Post#360 » by FNQ » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:03 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:
FNQ wrote:
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You have access to a lot of this data, right? What is Wiggins most efficient game? Is he better off shooting when given room to shoot or is he more efficiency taking it to the rack? Are we assuming a result not in evidence when we harp on him taking Js instead of driving?



Not at home, but I still do have access from work CPU.

Warrior history? Just last year? Or overall history (I think data goes back to 2017)

And when you say given room to shoot, do you mean open jumpers (3ft+ of space) or jumpers in general?


I’m curious about the open jumpers mostly but would be interested in overall as well


Predictably a wide gap in efficiency in isolation jumpers (-0.2 PPP compared to driving in isolation), but when it's off the pass the drive/shot splits are almost equal (slight advantage to shot; +0.05 PPP). Only looked at last year though because they year prior was MIN/GS without Steph, so didnt feel like it would capture accurately

So in short, if Wiggins puts the ball on the ground or holds it for more than a second after catching it, he's better off driving. But for the first second after he catches the ball, you want him to get into shooters' motion because he's better at that, especially on the weakside of the court

All data used was with Wiggins "open to wide open" which is 3ft+ of space between him and closest defender

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