Should the Warriors make a trade?

[WarriorGM]

It is all about fits.
Trade Podziemski and Moody for DiVincenzo.
Trade Schroeder and Looney for Vucevic.
Rotation:
PG Curry 34, DiVincenzo 14 (Spencer, Waters)
SG DiVincenzo 20, Hield 28 (Waters, Payton)
SF Wiggins 30, Payton 18 (Kuminga, Santos)
PF Green 30, Kuminga 18 (Anderson)
C Vucevic 28, Jackson-Davis 20 (Green, Post)

I don't get the love for DiVincenzo. He was already on the team and Moody looked better when it counted in the playoffs. DiVincenzo does not offer that much upside. Taking the gamble on Moody getting back on track I think is the better move if the team has higher aspirations.

[jozef]

Love for DiVincenzo is based on his ability to take shots within team concept - flow, rhythm, on the fly. His Knicks stats were amazing and he credited Warriors for his improvement. He can defend SG, he can run the point as backup. Simply synergy effect.
Vucevic brings one hand shots in the paint and elite 3pt shooting plus solid screens - opening the floor for slashers like Kuminga or for Curry counter drives. Another synergy effect making the GSW a team with COMPLETE basketball weapons.

[HiRez]

In 23 minutes, Zion had 24 pts, 14 reb, 6 ast, 3 blk, but yeah, he can't help us, right? Granted, it was the Jazz but still, outside of Steph we have no one who is a force of nature like that.

[Crazy-Canuck]

In 23 minutes, Zion had 24 pts, 14 reb, 6 ast, 3 blk, but yeah, he can't help us, right? Granted, it was the Jazz but still, outside of Steph we have no one who is a force of nature like that.

All reports have been pretty consistent: steph, dray, jk, podz are of the table.

Wiggs + filler + how many picks do you give up.

Now we give up our only 2 way player and wing for another power forward. Might be better to wait and extend jk and use him as the salary filler since they'd make the same money.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Another C on the market.

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[HiRez]

In 23 minutes, Zion had 24 pts, 14 reb, 6 ast, 3 blk, but yeah, he can't help us, right? Granted, it was the Jazz but still, outside of Steph we have no one who is a force of nature like that.

All reports have been pretty consistent: steph, dray, jk, podz are of the table.

Wiggs + filler + how many picks do you give up.

Now we give up our only 2 way player and wing for another power forward. Might be better to wait and extend jk and use him as the salary filler since they'd make the same money.

I'd give up 1 pick for sure, maybe a second if protected, or pick swaps. Because of his history, I don't think the price will be insanely high, but I'm not sure. Also not sure Podz is untouchable any longer either, I'd definitely send him out as part of a Zion deal if needed.

I mean if the Warriors are hell-bent on making everyone untouchable, what can you do? They'll have this same mediocre team while the end of Steph's career rots into oblivion. At least Zion and Steph would be fun as hell to watch, they will keep packing Chase every night and can justify the $500+ tickets (I think this is going to start falling off soon without a change), and get added to lots of national broadcasts.

The other factor of course is Kerr, who would likely try to shoehorn Zion into his almighty motion offense instead of optimizing a system around him and Steph. I'm of the opinion that that system is only effective at a highest levels when you have prime Steph, Draymond, and Klay (not to mention KD and Iguodala), which they clearly do not any more.

[HiRez]

Another C on the market.

Would love Gafford on the team (if for nothing else because we wouldn't have to deal with him as an opponent) but it's another big who doesn't shoot 3s, and isn't much of a passer, again not sure Kerr would play him much.

[jaymo123]

Another C on the market.

Would love Gafford on the team (if for nothing else because we wouldn't have to deal with him as an opponent) but it's another big who doesn't shoot 3s, and isn't much of a passer, again not sure Kerr would play him much.

I like Gafford but I think your right, Kerr would not play him much.

[EvanZ]

Why would Kerr not play Gafford? He’s a much better version of TJD.

[cpower]

Another C on the market.

Would love Gafford on the team (if for nothing else because we wouldn't have to deal with him as an opponent) but it's another big who doesn't shoot 3s, and isn't much of a passer, again not sure Kerr would play him much.

he is less useful (can finish a bit but wont do much to our offense) than Looney thats all you need to know

[cpower]

Why would Kerr not play Gafford? He’s a much better version of TJD.

he has negative 9 net rating this year , when he is on mavs are playing 4 vs 5 on D...TDJ is only -4 net rating and much cheaper

[ILOVEIT]

Wiggins play is making Kuminga's trade more likely. Wiggins is a better defensive center and they both essentially play the same position.

The hope is that the true Wiggins is the 2022 version and not the guy that had all those personal issues the last 1.5 years.

[EvanZ]

Why would Kerr not play Gafford? He’s a much better version of TJD.

he has negative 9 net rating this year , when he is on mavs are playing 4 vs 5 on D...TDJ is only -4 net rating and much cheaper

You're really citing "net rating"? Come on bro. His BPM and DARKO are better than TJD. I'll take Gafford over TJD any day of the week. And what's crazy is despite being in the league since 2019, Gafford is only 2 years older than TJD.

[cpower]

Why would Kerr not play Gafford? He’s a much better version of TJD.

he has negative 9 net rating this year , when he is on mavs are playing 4 vs 5 on D...TDJ is only -4 net rating and much cheaper

You're really citing "net rating"? Come on bro. His BPM and DARKO are better than TJD. I'll take Gafford over TJD any day of the week. And what's crazy is despite being in the league since 2019, Gafford is only 2 years older than TJD.

BPM is a box score....Gafford gets good BPM because he can finish better, but he does not help your offense and does not help your defense ...if we are trying to win we need to go for a much better player not like someone who is 10% better than TDJ

[Crazy-Canuck]

he has negative 9 net rating this year , when he is on mavs are playing 4 vs 5 on D...TDJ is only -4 net rating and much cheaper

You're really citing "net rating"? Come on bro. His BPM and DARKO are better than TJD. I'll take Gafford over TJD any day of the week. And what's crazy is despite being in the league since 2019, Gafford is only 2 years older than TJD.

BPM is a box score....Gafford gets good BPM because he can finish better, but he does not help your offense and does not help your defense ...if we are trying to win we need to go for a much better player not like someone who is 10% better than TDJ

Gafford is moot.

It's not a coincidence that they are offering him now since the Warriors have openly looking for an upgrade at C. The mavs have asked about Wiggins for the past 2 years.

[wco81]

Bobby Marks said on the KOC podcast that Warriors might get 4 FRPs and 3 pick swaps plus matching salary from a team like Orlando, which is in dire need of shooting and spacing for Curry.

That might turbocharge the Warriors rebuild.

Because Warriors are unlikely to get the star like Giannis or Zion which might make them contenders.

But this would be more of a trade in the offseason.

They also talked about Dallas as a potential trade partner for Green, so that they could play small when they wanted.

[Onus]

Bobby Marks said on the KOC podcast that Warriors might get 4 FRPs and 3 pick swaps plus matching salary from a team like Orlando, which is in dire need of shooting and spacing for Curry.

That might turbocharge the Warriors rebuild.

Because Warriors are unlikely to get the star like Giannis or Zion which might make them contenders.

But this would be more of a trade in the offseason.

They also talked about Dallas as a potential trade partner for Green, so that they could play small when they wanted.

Seriously if they’re unwilling to trade for Zion then they should trade everyone and start over. Pick a lane

[HiRez]

Bobby Marks said on the KOC podcast that Warriors might get 4 FRPs and 3 pick swaps plus matching salary from a team like Orlando, which is in dire need of shooting and spacing for Curry.

That might turbocharge the Warriors rebuild.

Because Warriors are unlikely to get the star like Giannis or Zion which might make them contenders.

But this would be more of a trade in the offseason.

They also talked about Dallas as a potential trade partner for Green, so that they could play small when they wanted.

Seriously if they’re unwilling to trade for Zion then they should trade everyone and start over. Pick a lane

That's what it comes down to, they seem paralyzed and unable to commit either way. Look at this Steve Kerr quote:

"What you're really trying to do is see if you can make some moves at the margins that can help your current team," Kerr told ESPN. "We are going to do everything we can to be as competitive as possible, to put the best team around Steph as possible without mortgaging the future, and that is the right decision."

To rephrase what he said in a different way, he's basically saying we're committed to neither excelling nor completely sucking, ensuring we have little chance of either being competitive as a playoff team, or have a high draft pick. Like OK, they're around .500 right now (of course that includes the 12-3 start, which feels like the distant past), it's not the worst, but by definition, the level of competition among playoff teams will be much higher than what they've faced in the regular season. So what are the chances they are > .500 in the playoffs? They aren't going to be facing the Wizards.

Worst case scenario is they wither away slowly, winning just enough games to avoid top 10 picks, but wait until the wheels fall off of Steph, or Steph gets fed up and asks out, when they will get less (or even nothing) in compensation. Right now I think Steph still nets you some juicy first round picks but that $60M+ salary is going to quickly become an untradable albatross if they wait much longer.

[Jester_]

Bobby Marks said on the KOC podcast that Warriors might get 4 FRPs and 3 pick swaps plus matching salary from a team like Orlando, which is in dire need of shooting and spacing for Curry.

That might turbocharge the Warriors rebuild.

Because Warriors are unlikely to get the star like Giannis or Zion which might make them contenders.

But this would be more of a trade in the offseason.

They also talked about Dallas as a potential trade partner for Green, so that they could play small when they wanted.

We're talking about a potential 3 year rebuild vs a 10 year rebuild if this stupid FO can get off their ass and trade him

[Onus]

Bobby Marks said on the KOC podcast that Warriors might get 4 FRPs and 3 pick swaps plus matching salary from a team like Orlando, which is in dire need of shooting and spacing for Curry.

That might turbocharge the Warriors rebuild.

Because Warriors are unlikely to get the star like Giannis or Zion which might make them contenders.

But this would be more of a trade in the offseason.

They also talked about Dallas as a potential trade partner for Green, so that they could play small when they wanted.

We're talking about a potential 3 year rebuild vs a 10 year rebuild if this stupid FO can get off their ass and trade him

3 year rebuild? You expect these geniuses to be able to draft? The same front office that had 3 lottery picks and essentially drafted busts. Moody can barely crack the rotation on a 500 team. Jk is coming off the bench because he can’t out play a broken down Draymond or Wiggins. Wiseman is struggling to stay in the league.