2021 Draft Thread

Baseline81 · Post #361 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:28 am

GS Warriors 1 wrote:
DevinVassell wrote:Rather get Minny pick this year. At 7, I'll take it!

All in all, I think if you told me we'd get #7 this year several months back before the season, I'd probably say that was reasonable and realistic.

Please, when the trade was made, Golden State fans were dreaming a top-5 pick. And since this upcoming draft is being billed as top-4 or -5, depending on your view of Kuminga, you've changed your expectations.

killmongrel · Post #362 » by **killmongrel** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:32 am

Baseline81 wrote:
GS Warriors 1 wrote:
DevinVassell wrote:Rather get Minny pick this year. At 7, I'll take it!

All in all, I think if you told me we'd get #7 this year several months back before the season, I'd probably say that was reasonable and realistic.

Please, when the trade was made, Golden State fans were dreaming a top-5 pick. And since this upcoming draft is being billed as top-4 or -5, depending on your view of Kuminga, you've changed your expectations.

Wolves fan coming to the GS board to trash talk huh. You have no room to trash talk. You're a Wolves fan. Personally, I'm just happy the pick conveyed. Would have sucked for the Wolves to get a top 3 pick. I definitely think you guys are going to be mediocre next year and that isn't going to be a good pick for us.

Old_Blue · Post #363 » by **Old_Blue** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:36 am

Honestly, I'd rather the pick didn't convey than end up at #7 this year. Even with a Top Three pick, Minny will likely still be a cellar dweller next year. So, for instance, #7 next year with a chance to jump up into the Top Four would have been preferable to #7 this year.

KevinMcreynolds · Post #364 » by **KevinMcreynolds** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:38 am

Not really into anyone at #7, someone convince me there’s a good selection there

Baseline81 · Post #365 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:40 am

killmongrel wrote:Wolves fan coming to the GS board to trash talk huh. You have no room to trash talk. You're a Wolves fan. Personally, I'm just happy the pick conveyed. Would have sucked for the Wolves to get a top 3 pick. I definitely think you guys are going to be mediocre next year and that isn't going to be a good pick for us.

I'm not here to talk trash.

I simply find it interesting how your collective thoughts have changed since the trade was originally made. It went from being such a valuable asset -- remember the hypothetical trades attaching Minny's pick -- to hoping you can get a starter at No. 7. And now thrilled that you won't have to wait another year in fear of it being outside the top-10 picks.

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #366 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:45 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Not really into anyone at #7, someone convince me there’s a good selection there

It's either BPA or find a fit. I'd say we try to trade #7 and #14, but at what cost?

killmongrel · Post #367 » by **killmongrel** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:46 am

Baseline81 wrote:
killmongrel wrote:Wolves fan coming to the GS board to trash talk huh. You have no room to trash talk. You're a Wolves fan. Personally, I'm just happy the pick conveyed. Would have sucked for the Wolves to get a top 3 pick. I definitely think you guys are going to be mediocre next year and that isn't going to be a good pick for us.

I'm not here to talk trash.

I simply find it interesting how your collective thoughts have changed since the trade was originally made. It went from being such a valuable asset -- remember the hypothetical trades attaching Minny's pick -- to hoping you can get a starter at No. 7. And now thrilled that you won't have to wait another year in fear of it being outside the top-10 picks.

We're not a monolith. Some wanted it to convey this year, while others wanted it for next year.

But of course all of us wanted it to be a top 4/5 pick. And it's value throughout the year was based on it possibly being that. Now that we know where it's at, obviously it's not as valuable as it once was. But that's just how the process goes. So I don't see what angle you have here unless you're saying Warrior fans only thought the Wiggins trade was only valuable if we got a top 4 pick out of it. I disagree and I don't think there are many GS fans that said that.

marthafokker · Post #368 » by **marthafokker** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:46 am

I want Davion Mitchell. Learned the game in school, and hopefully don't have to teach him like Wiseman.

And Dubbs get a real pg unlike last year to help off the bench. Dubbs need more D at the pg spot off the bench too.

killmongrel · Post #369 » by **killmongrel** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:50 am

marthafokker wrote:I want Davion Mitchell. Learned the game in school, and hopefully don't have to teach him like Wiseman.

And Dubbs get a real pg unlike last year to help off the bench. Dubbs need more D at the pg spot off the bench too.

Is Mitchell better than any vet we can get in FA considering our limitations with money?

Post #370 » by **FNQ** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:52 am

NeoWarriors wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Wolves....man that's got to be painful as hell.
Surprisingly on the Wolves board they feel like they completely dict us somehow.

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Traded the #7 to swap Wiggins for DLo and it’s a victory? Ok , sure. I mean if I were them I’d only be celebrating retaining a top 3 pick..

Anyways, still lots of options. I’d expect us to make both picks. Dream still remains Moody + a trade for Boucher. A real effort to win now

Post #371 » by **FNQ** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:53 am

killmongrel wrote:
marthafokker wrote:I want Davion Mitchell. Learned the game in school, and hopefully don't have to teach him like Wiseman.

And Dubbs get a real pg unlike last year to help off the bench. Dubbs need more D at the pg spot off the bench too.
Is Mitchell better than any vet we can get in FA considering our limitations with money?

Drafting a backup / 6th man with a mid lotto pick seems really dicey to me

mos_def · Post #372 » by **mos_def** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:53 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Not really into anyone at #7, someone convince me there’s a good selection there

Well...we did draft steph curry at 7 years ago.
I'm thinking Moody

marthafokker · Post #373 » by **marthafokker** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:58 am

killmongrel wrote:
marthafokker wrote:I want Davion Mitchell. Learned the game in school, and hopefully don't have to teach him like Wiseman.

And Dubbs get a real pg unlike last year to help off the bench. Dubbs need more D at the pg spot off the bench too.
Is Mitchell better than any vet we can get in FA considering our limitations with money?

I can only hope with any draft picks.

But which backup pg can play both ends for the money Dubbs can pay? That is the real question.

killmongrel · Post #374 » by **killmongrel** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:59 am

FNQ wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
marthafokker wrote:I want Davion Mitchell. Learned the game in school, and hopefully don't have to teach him like Wiseman.

And Dubbs get a real pg unlike last year to help off the bench. Dubbs need more D at the pg spot off the bench too.
Is Mitchell better than any vet we can get in FA considering our limitations with money?

Drafting a backup / 6th man with a mid lotto pick seems really dicey to me

I agree with this. But then comes the question, who exactly can we sign? Is gambling on Mitchell and Poole okay as long as we have some trustworthy who we get in FA.

mos_def · Post #375 » by **mos_def** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:00 am

FNQ wrote:The one drawback I have on Moody, and its frustrating, is that every time he's going to take a shot, he moves the ball down to get into a rhythm, and you cant tell on yourself in the NBA. It tells the defender to go all out to block the jumper, and Moody wasnt the type to pump fake and drive much

but the rest?

Watch on YouTube

I agree. They say his advanced stats state he struggles with contact. That being said he is definitely a 3d guy. With klay saying he won't be full strength come start of season and his long wingspan with range, I think he is the pick. Especially if he can play some small forward.
They comp him to Glen Rice. Who I will take

whatisacenter · Post #376 » by **whatisacenter** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:02 am

I’m cool with Jalen Johnson and Wagner/Giddey.

I think JJ will be a better pro than a college player.

Chupchup · Post #377 » by **Chupchup** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:02 am

#7 Barnes or Moody

#14 Toss up. The best Wing available.

whatisacenter · Post #378 » by **whatisacenter** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:04 am

Baseline81 wrote:
killmongrel wrote:Wolves fan coming to the GS board to trash talk huh. You have no room to trash talk. You're a Wolves fan. Personally, I'm just happy the pick conveyed. Would have sucked for the Wolves to get a top 3 pick. I definitely think you guys are going to be mediocre next year and that isn't going to be a good pick for us.

I'm not here to talk trash.

I simply find it interesting how your collective thoughts have changed since the trade was originally made. It went from being such a valuable asset -- remember the hypothetical trades attaching Minny's pick -- to hoping you can get a starter at No. 7. And now thrilled that you won't have to wait another year in fear of it being outside the top-10 picks.

Cool, have fun not having a pick this year.

Baseline81 · Post #379 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:06 am

whatisacenter wrote:Cool, have fun not having a pick this year.

Bound to happen this year or next.

mos_def · Post #380 » by **mos_def** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:07 am

whatisacenter wrote:I’m cool with Jalen Johnson and Wagner/Giddey.

I think JJ will be a better pro than a college player.

I would be fine with Moody at 7 and Jalen Johnson at 14