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Post#361 » by vvoland » Mon Jul 7, 2025 5:42 pm

Kuminga on 15-20/yr, Horford to split minutes at 5 with Post, and beal with a promise that he can compete for the starting 2 spot against podz. None of those options seem that hard and, if they're able to do all 3, I think this would be a great offseason.
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Post#362 » by Onus » Mon Jul 7, 2025 5:53 pm

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:With the Collins trade, it likely makes space to add Beal. The Clippers are another team just killing it this off season.

Saw their roster and it looks good

Bigs: Zubac, Collins, B. Lopez, Batum, Niederhauser (rookie)
Wings: Kawhi, DJJ, Kobe Brown, Jordan Miller, Cam Christie
Guards: James Harden, Kris Dunn, Bogdanovic

I'm not sure they should actually add Beal but if they do a starting lineup of Harden/Beal/Kawhi/Collins/Zubac is interesting.


Lots of question marks with that roster. A lot of one way players except kawhi and zubac. Kawhi player less than 40 games last season while NOT being injured. and Harden is harden. They're deep enough to make a push for a decent regular season seed but I'm not too worried about them in the playoffs.

Yea that's why I don't think Beal would be a great get for them. They will need a defender that is willing to do all the dirty work rather than the scoring punch Beal would provide. I don't think they have a championship squad but they'll be in the mix for the 5-8 seed.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#363 » by vvoland » Mon Jul 7, 2025 5:56 pm

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Onus wrote:Saw their roster and it looks good

Bigs: Zubac, Collins, B. Lopez, Batum, Niederhauser (rookie)
Wings: Kawhi, DJJ, Kobe Brown, Jordan Miller, Cam Christie
Guards: James Harden, Kris Dunn, Bogdanovic

I'm not sure they should actually add Beal but if they do a starting lineup of Harden/Beal/Kawhi/Collins/Zubac is interesting.


Lots of question marks with that roster. A lot of one way players except kawhi and zubac. Kawhi player less than 40 games last season while NOT being injured. and Harden is harden. They're deep enough to make a push for a decent regular season seed but I'm not too worried about them in the playoffs.

Yea that's why I don't think Beal would be a great get for them. They will need a defender that is willing to do all the dirty work rather than the scoring punch Beal would provide. I don't think they have a championship squad but they'll be in the mix for the 5-8 seed.


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Post#364 » by ChuckDurn » Mon Jul 7, 2025 8:10 pm

vvoland wrote:Kuminga on 15-20/yr, Horford to split minutes at 5 with Post, and beal with a promise that he can compete for the starting 2 spot against podz. None of those options seem that hard and, if they're able to do all 3, I think this would be a great offseason.

I think (but don’t quote me on this) that if Kuminga gets $15-20M/year, the Warriors really only have the TPMLE and vet minimums available, so the odds that they could compete for both Horford and Beal seems unlikely. We could offer it to one or the other, or theoretically give each of them part of it, but not sure there’s enough money to think that it’s possible to get both unless one is willing to come here for the minimum.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#365 » by vvoland » Mon Jul 7, 2025 8:38 pm

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vvoland wrote:Kuminga on 15-20/yr, Horford to split minutes at 5 with Post, and beal with a promise that he can compete for the starting 2 spot against podz. None of those options seem that hard and, if they're able to do all 3, I think this would be a great offseason.

I think (but don’t quote me on this) that if Kuminga gets $15-20M/year, the Warriors really only have the TPMLE and vet minimums available, so the odds that they could compete for both Horford and Beal seems unlikely. We could offer it to one or the other, or theoretically give each of them part of it, but not sure there’s enough money to think that it’s possible to get both unless one is willing to come here for the minimum.


You're probably right but, as xdrta explained to me earlier, any dollar above the vet min for beal is likely to be offset by 50%. I think it'll be about the kind of role we can offer and not the money. Beal probably doesn't come here because of podz/moody/buddy and not the money. Same reason al would come here, all things being equal.
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Post#366 » by DAWill1128 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:30 pm

You would think Beal would want to come here and play in a starting lineup next to Steph, Jimmy, Dray, and Al. But the Warriors are different, they love Podz and might tell Beal he has to compete with a young up and coming All-Star. Just like bigs don't sign here even though we've had the worst center rotation in the NBA for a while now.

Somehow the guys we want always end up on the Clippers for pennies. Then Kawhi gets injured and the Clippers annually underachieve. Then every offseason guys opt to hope Kawhi stays healthy rather than deal with the LeBron clutch circus on the Lakers.
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Post#367 » by statsman » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:33 pm

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vvoland wrote:Kuminga on 15-20/yr, Horford to split minutes at 5 with Post, and beal with a promise that he can compete for the starting 2 spot against podz. None of those options seem that hard and, if they're able to do all 3, I think this would be a great offseason.

I think (but don’t quote me on this) that if Kuminga gets $15-20M/year, the Warriors really only have the TPMLE and vet minimums available, so the odds that they could compete for both Horford and Beal seems unlikely. We could offer it to one or the other, or theoretically give each of them part of it, but not sure there’s enough money to think that it’s possible to get both unless one is willing to come here for the minimum.

The option for both is possible, but not with Kuminga on the roster and playing for more than the qualifying offer. A Kuminga S&T to the Kings for Carter/Ellis would open up enough money. Just not sure it would matter to Beal to not go to the Clippers.
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Post#368 » by bay2hk » Mon Jul 7, 2025 10:02 pm

So this is going to be a standstill for the next 3 months until JK sign his QO on 10/1 deadline…
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Post#369 » by wco81 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 10:40 pm

Zach Lowe said neither the Warriors nor JK want him to sign that 1-year QO.

Howard Beck says the most likely outcome is JK is on another roster on opening night because both sides prefer S&T.
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Post#370 » by Onus » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:00 pm

wco81 wrote:Zach Lowe said neither the Warriors nor JK want him to sign that 1-year QO.

Howard Beck says the most likely outcome is JK is on another roster on opening night because both sides prefer S&T.

Wow 1st time seeing the warriors prefer a s&t. If true kings really the only suitors left.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#371 » by vvoland » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:05 pm

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wco81 wrote:Zach Lowe said neither the Warriors nor JK want him to sign that 1-year QO.

Howard Beck says the most likely outcome is JK is on another roster on opening night because both sides prefer S&T.

Wow 1st time seeing the warriors prefer a s&t. If true kings really the only suitors left.


It makes so much sense to wait until Feb and actually be able to trade for a ~40M dollar player when putting JK, Moody, and Buddy together. If they punt on JK for some team's 4/5th guard, no offense to Devin Carter, this would be just awful asset management
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Post#372 » by Onus » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:07 pm

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wco81 wrote:Zach Lowe said neither the Warriors nor JK want him to sign that 1-year QO.

Howard Beck says the most likely outcome is JK is on another roster on opening night because both sides prefer S&T.

Wow 1st time seeing the warriors prefer a s&t. If true kings really the only suitors left.


It makes so much sense to wait until Feb and actually be able to trade for a ~40M dollar player when putting JK, Moody, and Buddy together. If they punt on JK for some team's 4/5th guard, no offense to Devin Carter, this would be just awful asset management

Yea it would be terrible asset management. That's what happens when you have a meddling owner
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Post#373 » by vvoland » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:15 pm

wco81 wrote:Zach Lowe said neither the Warriors nor JK want him to sign that 1-year QO.

Howard Beck says the most likely outcome is JK is on another roster on opening night because both sides prefer S&T.



Just listening to that part of the pod right now.

Lowe said, "the only thing I actually know is that no one wants him to come back on the QO."

Howard Beck was firmer and said, "neither side wants him back on the roster on opening night" with Lowe responding, "if they give him a fair contract, I'm sure he'll be happy to sign it."

"S&T is the leader in the clubhouse, right now." is how Lowe ended that segment.

Really interesting take on the offseason, so far. Highly recommend folks listen to the whole thing.
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Post#374 » by AirP. » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:36 am

Question... if Kevin Love is bought out, would he be an interesting option on the minimum? He won't play many minutes but he's a stretch big who can rebound, has good bbiq and is great at outlet passes for breaks. Old but could give good play for a few minutes per game.

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Post#375 » by AirP. » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:20 am

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Post#376 » by Onus » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:24 am

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Nice he fit so well here. Hope he can stay healthy.
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Post#377 » by vvoland » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:31 am

Melton would be welcomed back with open arms.

Wouldn't mind love here if he gets bought out. His outlet passing would be great and as an undersized stretch 5, we could do worse.
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Post#378 » by azwfan » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:34 am

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Nice he fit so well here. Hope he can stay healthy.

Assuming he can play (even if minimal minutes) that would be great for the Warriors.
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Post#379 » by vvoland » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:35 am

Onus wrote:
vvoland wrote:
Onus wrote:Wow 1st time seeing the warriors prefer a s&t. If true kings really the only suitors left.


It makes so much sense to wait until Feb and actually be able to trade for a ~40M dollar player when putting JK, Moody, and Buddy together. If they punt on JK for some team's 4/5th guard, no offense to Devin Carter, this would be just awful asset management

Yea it would be terrible asset management. That's what happens when you have a meddling owner


The reporting has been that the FO is split on JK, as is the coaching staff. I doubt it's 50/50 but I also don't think lacob's JK's only fan in the organization.

As much as the board doesn't want to admit it, there is a lot to like about JK and what he can be. There's even some things to like about he's already been.

There really is no reason to sell him now for "a player to be waived later." I don't think there's anything irreparable here, on either end, and if we come up with the best offer, I don't think he'll leave. Come the deadline, we'll see
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Post#380 » by azwfan » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:39 am

Onus wrote:
vvoland wrote:
Onus wrote:Wow 1st time seeing the warriors prefer a s&t. If true kings really the only suitors left.


It makes so much sense to wait until Feb and actually be able to trade for a ~40M dollar player when putting JK, Moody, and Buddy together. If they punt on JK for some team's 4/5th guard, no offense to Devin Carter, this would be just awful asset management

Yea it would be terrible asset management. That's what happens when you have a meddling owner

I think this current situation is more on Kerr.
Not due to the benching, but due to the post-season media run where he tells anyone willing to listen that he doesnt think JK is a good fit. Had told the media, “I thought he wasnt fitting well and we needed to win games, but he sure did prove me wrong when he finally got minutes in the playoffs. If we’re lucky enough to bring him back, we will make it work.”

Instead he said, “look i need to win games and jk doesnt fit. If we pay him a lot of money of course we will play him.”

Other teams read that stuff too. They know Kerr doesnt want him on the team, why would they give up anything of value. Just dumb dumb move by Kerr driven entirely by ego.
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