2021 Playoffs thread

[Mylie10]

Suns have been the best team in the league for over two months.

[cladden]

I really like this bucks team.

[cladden]

Very kobe booker performance.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Could be partially torn? I went 6 years with a partially torn ACL. I'd tweak it all the time and eventually it was gone. Maybe it was already partially torn and that was the last of it?

I know he's been pretty secretive about his knee issues.

He really hasn't. He had tendonitis, which can be as minimal as an itch or severe as something that hinders your ability to walk without pain.

Partially torn is usually considered "torn" by PR teams releasing stuff to the press. And typically when a window of 6-12 months is given, its because the PR team actually did their HW and understands that it likely wasn't a clean tear - HOWEVER, it may require the same rehab as a full tear, depending on location and severity

However if you went 6 years on a partially torn ACL, and were able to move around like normal for the majority of it, you likely had a high grade sprain (which is effectively one or several small tears in the ligament, but not enough to be considered 'torn') and that is something that can be managed passively. It would be extremely hard for him to play on a healing ACL sprain though. Which based on what we know at this time, is likely what he has - a small tear that's in the gray area of sprain / partial tear.

Based on what we know about Kawhi and his self-preservation, and that the Clippers refuse to rule him out for the season, my guess is he has an ACL sprain, which he probably could play on if his life depended on it, but also greatly increases the risk of a full tear, which probably isn't a good look for a guy who was hoping for a big contract in the offseason. That's just a bunch of tea leaf reading though

Called it

"LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard has surgery to repair partial tear of right ACL"


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31814073/la-clippers-kawhi-leonard-surgery-repair-partial-tear-right-aclrm=amp

[GS Warriors 1]

Booker had a hell of a game, but also very fortunate to finish that game lol.

Middleton and Giannis came up big to come back and take game 4. Won't forget Connaughton, either. He's had some big moments in this postseason.

[Coxy]

Booker had a hell of a game, but also very fortunate to finish that game lol.

Middleton and Giannis came up big to come back and take game 4. Won't forget Connaughton, either. He's had some big moments in this postseason.

Fortunate? Booker could have taken an axe to players out there and not have been fouled out.

[FNQ]

Could be partially torn? I went 6 years with a partially torn ACL. I'd tweak it all the time and eventually it was gone. Maybe it was already partially torn and that was the last of it?

I know he's been pretty secretive about his knee issues.

He really hasn't. He had tendonitis, which can be as minimal as an itch or severe as something that hinders your ability to walk without pain.

Partially torn is usually considered "torn" by PR teams releasing stuff to the press. And typically when a window of 6-12 months is given, its because the PR team actually did their HW and understands that it likely wasn't a clean tear - HOWEVER, it may require the same rehab as a full tear, depending on location and severity

However if you went 6 years on a partially torn ACL, and were able to move around like normal for the majority of it, you likely had a high grade sprain (which is effectively one or several small tears in the ligament, but not enough to be considered 'torn') and that is something that can be managed passively. It would be extremely hard for him to play on a healing ACL sprain though. Which based on what we know at this time, is likely what he has - a small tear that's in the gray area of sprain / partial tear.

Based on what we know about Kawhi and his self-preservation, and that the Clippers refuse to rule him out for the season, my guess is he has an ACL sprain, which he probably could play on if his life depended on it, but also greatly increases the risk of a full tear, which probably isn't a good look for a guy who was hoping for a big contract in the offseason. That's just a bunch of tea leaf reading though

Called it

"LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard has surgery to repair partial tear of right ACL"


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31814073/la-clippers-kawhi-leonard-surgery-repair-partial-tear-right-aclrm=amp

Yup but there's still a ton of questions. Based on how everything went down, I still think we're in that gray area of 'when does a sprain become a partial tear' -- otherwise, the Clippers were just playing mind games. But why? It almost certainly would piss Kawhi off, unless he was in on it.. And why is the recovery time undisclosed? Once the person is opened up, you can have a pretty damn good idea of what a recovery window would look like

They put out an injury update press release and I have more questions than before the press release. Is Kawhi forcing them to be vague or are they terrible at PR? And if Kawhi is forcing them to be vague, why were they downplaying the seriousness throughout the playoffs? Am I missing something that makes this all make sense?

[Impuniti]

Suns have been the best team in the league for over two months.

They have yet to be tested in any series until this season.

[superunknown]

what is this exactly?

Watch on YouTube

inexplicable, he defends both the passer and the receiver of the alleyoop and goes at a sidereal height to block a guy like ayton. it makes no sense. block of the year without even starting the convo and one of the best ever.

[oaktownwarriors87]

He really hasn't. He had tendonitis, which can be as minimal as an itch or severe as something that hinders your ability to walk without pain.

Partially torn is usually considered "torn" by PR teams releasing stuff to the press. And typically when a window of 6-12 months is given, its because the PR team actually did their HW and understands that it likely wasn't a clean tear - HOWEVER, it may require the same rehab as a full tear, depending on location and severity

However if you went 6 years on a partially torn ACL, and were able to move around like normal for the majority of it, you likely had a high grade sprain (which is effectively one or several small tears in the ligament, but not enough to be considered 'torn') and that is something that can be managed passively. It would be extremely hard for him to play on a healing ACL sprain though. Which based on what we know at this time, is likely what he has - a small tear that's in the gray area of sprain / partial tear.

Based on what we know about Kawhi and his self-preservation, and that the Clippers refuse to rule him out for the season, my guess is he has an ACL sprain, which he probably could play on if his life depended on it, but also greatly increases the risk of a full tear, which probably isn't a good look for a guy who was hoping for a big contract in the offseason. That's just a bunch of tea leaf reading though

Called it

"LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard has surgery to repair partial tear of right ACL"


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31814073/la-clippers-kawhi-leonard-surgery-repair-partial-tear-right-aclrm=amp

Yup but there's still a ton of questions. Based on how everything went down, I still think we're in that gray area of 'when does a sprain become a partial tear' -- otherwise, the Clippers were just playing mind games. But why? It almost certainly would piss Kawhi off, unless he was in on it.. And why is the recovery time undisclosed? Once the person is opened up, you can have a pretty damn good idea of what a recovery window would look like

They put out an injury update press release and I have more questions than before the press release. Is Kawhi forcing them to be vague or are they terrible at PR? And if Kawhi is forcing them to be vague, why were they downplaying the seriousness throughout the playoffs? Am I missing something that makes this all make sense?

A strain is "stretched" and a sprain is "torn", right?

My doctor told me that a partially torn ACL would never recover because of a lack of blood flow to that area, unlike an ankle or other parts.. I think... that's just from memory.

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/anterior-cruciate-ligament-acl-injuries

Grade 1 Sprains. The ligament is mildly damaged in a Grade 1 Sprain. It has been slightly stretched, but is still able to help keep the knee joint stable.

Grade 2 Sprains. A Grade 2 Sprain stretches the ligament to the point where it becomes loose. This is often referred to as a partial tear of the ligament.

Grade 3 Sprains. This type of sprain is most commonly referred to as a complete tear of the ligament. The ligament has been split into two pieces, and the knee joint is unstable.

Partial tears of the anterior cruciate ligament are rare; most ACL injuries are complete or near complete tears.

[bballguy50]

what is this exactly?

Watch on YouTube

inexplicable, he defends both the passer and the receiver of the alleyoop and goes at a sidereal height to block a guy like ayton. it makes no sense. block of the year without even starting the convo and one of the best ever.

Hell of a block, caught the end of 4Q as I got back from dinner yesterday. Especially what, 1-2 weeks after a nasty hyperextension? Crazy.

[FNQ]

Called it

"LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard has surgery to repair partial tear of right ACL"


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31814073/la-clippers-kawhi-leonard-surgery-repair-partial-tear-right-aclrm=amp

Yup but there's still a ton of questions. Based on how everything went down, I still think we're in that gray area of 'when does a sprain become a partial tear' -- otherwise, the Clippers were just playing mind games. But why? It almost certainly would piss Kawhi off, unless he was in on it.. And why is the recovery time undisclosed? Once the person is opened up, you can have a pretty damn good idea of what a recovery window would look like

They put out an injury update press release and I have more questions than before the press release. Is Kawhi forcing them to be vague or are they terrible at PR? And if Kawhi is forcing them to be vague, why were they downplaying the seriousness throughout the playoffs? Am I missing something that makes this all make sense?

A strain is "stretched" and a sprain is "torn", right?

My doctor told me that a partially torn ACL would never recover because of a lack of blood flow to that area, unlike an ankle or other parts.. I think... that's just from memory.

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/anterior-cruciate-ligament-acl-injuries

Grade 1 Sprains. The ligament is mildly damaged in a Grade 1 Sprain. It has been slightly stretched, but is still able to help keep the knee joint stable.

Grade 2 Sprains. A Grade 2 Sprain stretches the ligament to the point where it becomes loose. This is often referred to as a partial tear of the ligament.

Grade 3 Sprains. This type of sprain is most commonly referred to as a complete tear of the ligament. The ligament has been split into two pieces, and the knee joint is unstable.

Partial tears of the anterior cruciate ligament are rare; most ACL injuries are complete or near complete tears.

re: strain/sprain --- correct

the other part? Depends on where the tear is and how deep it is.. but it absolutely can be possible. Though I'd expect in those cases they'd at least offer surgery? I dunno, sometimes I dont get doctors' methodology. But there's almost always a method to their madness

[CS707]

Keep in mind it’s pretty difficult to determine the extent of an ACL tear even with an MRI. Especially while swelling and blood are still present. They won’t really know until they open it up.

[wco81]

Looks like Suns have noth8ng but Booker or CP3 ISOs.

Booker scores 40 but plays ugly basketball, especially in third quarter when Bucks build a big lead.

Then in the key possession of the game, he dribbles into a double team and gets stripped.

Bucks adjusted, Suns haven’t. Instead they became more reliant on Booker, who put up 32 attempts.

Looks like a massive collapse about to happen.

[whatisacenter]

Looks like I am going to have to apologize to Jrue. I really like him but I thought the moment was to big for him. He is proving me wrong.

[Quazza]

Looks like I am going to have to apologize to Jrue. I really like him but I thought the moment was to big for him. He is proving me wrong.

That steal then the lob was incredible (as was the finish )

Iconic moment

[Coxy]

Coach Bud deserves the FMVP. After game 1, his adjustments have completely changed everything.

[mos_def]

Looks like I am going to have to apologize to Jrue. I really like him but I thought the moment was to big for him. He is proving me wrong.

The only reason Ive been pulling for the Bucks is to throw some shade on my 76ers fans friends when I go there next week. It makes you wonder that though Ben Simmons and Embiid are good players, the total gut job of that team with players makes me wonder how futile the gut was when they drafted and acquired talent at a good rate in hindsight
Jrue Holiday
Jerami Grant
Robert Covington
Richaun Holmes
Lou Williams
Dario Saric

[floppymoose]

I kinda wish I was a sports gambler now, because I would have bet on the Suns if I were picking a single team to win it all at the beginning of the playoffs. Not based on anything other than how easily they handled GS. They were the opponent (aside from Nets, but one of those games was right out of the gate when GS was in disarray) who just cruised to victory against GS.

Of course they could still lose, but I don't think they will.

Lol i jinxed them. Take that, Chris Paul.

[ILOVEIT]

man....had I a little more extra cash I think one could make a killing on the long odds of Suns winning these final two.

In fact I trust Suns and Paul in this game on the road more than I would in game 7 at home