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Should the Warriors make a trade?

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Should the Warriors make a trade?

Poll ended at Mon Dec 2, 2024 11:11 pm

Yes - a major shakeup (Let's be real, Steph and Dray are untouchable, so) let's define this as a trade involving one or more of the 2nd tier guys, players like Wiggins, Kuminga, Podz, and/or a first round pick or picks.
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Yes - a minor move/moves. Something like De'Anthony Melton's expiring contract and a minor piece or pieces?
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No - this team is very good. Stay pat. Don't want to risk a good thing.
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15%
 
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#381 » by vvoland » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:55 am

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Onus wrote:Because every single scouting report remarked how Franz was a high iq player, who was able to make quick reads. He had international experience (where they play team basketball).


All of this is true and can also apply to schroeder, saric, and caspi, for example. Of the high iq euros we had roll through the team, only belli played well. Again, I'm not even saying Franz wouldn't succeed, I'm just saying he probably wouldn't do as well as he has after 3 years of running high PnR/Iso offense as a 2nd option hunting mismatches. He's a smart player who would fit better than JK or Moody have but would he be a max extension, all-nba level rookie by start of year 4 on this squad? I would have to guess it's unlikely.

Schroeder doesn’t make quick reads. Saric and Caspi fit they just forgot how to shoot and couldn’t guard a chair. Franz being a superior defender in all facets guarantees that he’d be a better fit than both jk and moody.


Yes, I think we're all in agreement on that. I'm just saying he wouldn't be the player he's become if he was developing here
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#382 » by Onus » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:25 am

vvoland wrote:
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vvoland wrote:
All of this is true and can also apply to schroeder, saric, and caspi, for example. Of the high iq euros we had roll through the team, only belli played well. Again, I'm not even saying Franz wouldn't succeed, I'm just saying he probably wouldn't do as well as he has after 3 years of running high PnR/Iso offense as a 2nd option hunting mismatches. He's a smart player who would fit better than JK or Moody have but would he be a max extension, all-nba level rookie by start of year 4 on this squad? I would have to guess it's unlikely.

Schroeder doesn’t make quick reads. Saric and Caspi fit they just forgot how to shoot and couldn’t guard a chair. Franz being a superior defender in all facets guarantees that he’d be a better fit than both jk and moody.


Yes, I think we're all in agreement on that. I'm just saying he wouldn't be the player he's become if he was developing here

You’re right he’d be better getting wide open forays to the rim playing off of Steph.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#383 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:54 pm

We now have a glut of 4s needing minutes.

Dray
Jk
Santos
Slomo
Moody
Gp2


We shoukd ge consolidating our 4s for a talent upgrade or another rotation wing.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#384 » by superunknown » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:06 pm

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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#385 » by Onus » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:46 pm

Fanspo says Cam J and Jalen Wilson for GP2, JK, Kyle Anderson works ...

Then trade Schroder to OKC for A Wiggins or Kenrich Williams. Then we have enough for Cam J's bonus maybe ... if we get Kenrich and we can sign Post to a regular contract so he can play in the playoffs.

Curry/Podz
Wiggins/Buddy/Waters
Camj/Moody/Williams
Dray/Gui/Wilson
Post/Looney/TJD

Maybe we can sign Fultz or DSJ.

This will at least give us modern day lineups
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#386 » by Onus » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:47 pm

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JK is going to get that 30 M. It lines up too perfectly.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#387 » by superunknown » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:51 pm

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JK is going to get that 30 M. It lines up too perfectly.


if they get him that 30M and then put him in a trade that's fine.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#388 » by whatisacenter » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:45 pm

Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#389 » by Onus » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:58 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.

Anyone that wants him doesn't actually watch Vuc
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#390 » by superunknown » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:00 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.


it depends on the asking price. for the right price and the right package of players (salaries) to send back, it's a possibility that can be considered. technically, he's the type of big (stretch 5) this team needs, as everybody could see with a big with the likes of post.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#391 » by whatisacenter » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:02 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.


it depends on the asking price. for the right price and the right package of players (salaries) to send back, it's a possibility that can be considered. technically, he's the type of big (stretch 5) this team needs, as everybody could see with a big with the likes of post.


Then play Post.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#392 » by superunknown » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:09 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.


it depends on the asking price. for the right price and the right package of players (salaries) to send back, it's a possibility that can be considered. technically, he's the type of big (stretch 5) this team needs, as everybody could see with a big with the likes of post.


Then play Post.


post indeed has to play more minutes, but cannot play 48 minutes a game.
a C rotation with someone like vucevic (again, for the right price) with post and looney from the bench could be a possibility to explore.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#393 » by EvanZ » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:31 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.


He's been in the league for a decade. I would hope people didn't have to see him for the first time last night.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#394 » by Onus » Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:15 pm

There is seriously a lack of guard talent making under 13M that isn't on a rookie contract.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#395 » by jaymo123 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:11 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Do people still want Vuc after watching him up close?

Slow feet, slow in transition and not a winning player.


After watching the highlights from last night, I no longer want Vuc on the team.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#396 » by jozef » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:23 pm

Absolutely Vuc is great offensive player with reliable inside scoring and great 3pt touch. He would make Steph unguardable.
Smart from Vuc that he did not sink his future team. :D
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#397 » by whatisacenter » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:46 pm

jozef wrote:Absolutely Vuc is great offensive player with reliable inside scoring and great 3pt touch. He would make Steph unguardable.
Smart from Vuc that he did not sink his future team. :D


Would you trade a FRP for him?

He is having his best year and I would bet that it looks better on paper than on the court.

Just give whatever minutes you invision for Vuc to Post and I doubt there would be much difference.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#398 » by jozef » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:58 pm

Post is not so fluid. Post is bench player. Vuc can play versus stars.

Blockbuster idea:
Schroeder, Payton, Anderson, Looney, Hield, Moody and picks for LaVine and Vucevic.
Rotation:
PG Curry, Podziemski, Spencer
SG LaVine, Podziemski, Waters
SF Wiggins, Santos, Kuminga
PF Green, Kuminga
C Vucevic, Jackson-Davis, Post
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#399 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:22 am

jozef wrote:Post is not so fluid. Post is bench player. Vuc can play versus stars.

Blockbuster idea:
Schroeder, Payton, Anderson, Looney, Hield, Moody and picks for LaVine and Vucevic.
Rotation:
PG Curry, Podziemski, Spencer
SG LaVine, Podziemski, Waters
SF Wiggins, Santos, Kuminga
PF Green, Kuminga
C Vucevic, Jackson-Davis, Post


Not even close to following basic nba trade rules.

You might as well propose giannis for Looney.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#400 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:59 am

jozef wrote:Post is not so fluid. Post is bench player. Vuc can play versus stars.




Post is more fluid than Vuc and is a much better value $ wise, with more upside.

Vuc is having a hot run of shooting, last season he was 29% from 3. If the Warriors give up assets for him instead of just playing post, it would be a terrible move.

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