Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

DonaldSanders · Post #381 » by **DonaldSanders** » Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:15 pm

Really the only S&T I can see is the Bulls involving Coby White since he has the right size salary for the trade (12.8M) and fits a need for us (backup PG getting solid minutes).

Most likely is us just bringing him back and looking for a near deadline trade so we don't have to deal with the difficult S&T rules.

wco81 · Post #382 » by **wco81** » Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:59 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:I thought Kerr managed Kuminga very well. Kuminga was never going to be a major-minutes, rely on him kind of guy for the Warriors as long as Steph Curry is still Steph Curry. And it would be very easy for a guy like Kuminga - young and expects to be a star - to rebel at his role, cause locker room problems, demand a trade. But that never happened. Kuminga stayed ready, more or less, without becoming a distraction to the team and its goals. That's a major accomplishment and IDK how many other teams would have been able to pull that off.

My recollection was that he was playing well for a couple of weeks before his injury in January?

I don't recall the team's record at the time. The team struggled more in the couple of weeks approaching the trade deadline, which is when they tried for Butler.

But JK wasn't playing during this time and it was after the trade that he came back from injury and that's when he was getting a to of DNPs, because they didn't have a good way to integrate him into the rotation after Jimmy was getting starter minutes.

There was some hope that him coming back would be a positive thing but in fact, they didn't integrate too well, except a game or two here. One game was at the Lakers where Kuminga attacked the rim well and they beat the Lakers for the first and maybe only time during the season, because the Lakers had beaten them the first two games, before they Luka trade and this game was after the Luka trade.

Twinkie defense · Post #383 » by **Twinkie defense** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:09 am

marthafokker wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:I thought Kerr managed Kuminga very well. Kuminga was never going to be a major-minutes, rely on him kind of guy for the Warriors as long as Steph Curry is still Steph Curry. And it would be very easy for a guy like Kuminga - young and expects to be a star - to rebel at his role, cause locker room problems, demand a trade. But that never happened. Kuminga stayed ready, more or less, without becoming a distraction to the team and its goals. That's a major accomplishment and IDK how many other teams would have been able to pull that off.

I don't think so. If Kerr decided on CNP-CD as JK's role. Just should of be in street clothing all playoff.

Well I guess there was a matchup for him huh?

marthafokker · Post #384 » by **marthafokker** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:02 am

Twinkie defense wrote:
marthafokker wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:I thought Kerr managed Kuminga very well. Kuminga was never going to be a major-minutes, rely on him kind of guy for the Warriors as long as Steph Curry is still Steph Curry. And it would be very easy for a guy like Kuminga - young and expects to be a star - to rebel at his role, cause locker room problems, demand a trade. But that never happened. Kuminga stayed ready, more or less, without becoming a distraction to the team and its goals. That's a major accomplishment and IDK how many other teams would have been able to pull that off.

I don't think so. If Kerr decided on CNP-CD as JK's role. Just should of be in street clothing all playoff.

Well I guess there was a matchup for him huh?

According to Kerr, JK is not a winner, so no matchup matters to winning.

TB · Post #385 » by TB » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:32 pm

The Heat getting Kasparas maybe helps the chances of a Kuminga for Davion S&T…. that being said if I was the Heat i’d be fine to just roll with Davion/Herro/Terry/Kasparas until I could find a trade for Terry’s expiring this year.

wco81 · Post #386 » by **wco81** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:38 pm

TB wrote:The Heat getting Kasparas maybe helps the chances of a Kuminga for Davion S&T…. that being said if I was the Heat i’d be fine to just roll with Davion/Herro/Terry/Kasparas until I could find a trade for Terry’s expiring this year.

S&T Kuminga to get back only Davion Mitchell? No other assets like future FRPs?

They are better off just letting Kuminga walk in that case.

TB · Post #387 » by TB » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:49 pm

wco81 wrote:
TB wrote:The Heat getting Kasparas maybe helps the chances of a Kuminga for Davion S&T…. that being said if I was the Heat i’d be fine to just roll with Davion/Herro/Terry/Kasparas until I could find a trade for Terry’s expiring this year.

S&T Kuminga to get back only Davion Mitchell? No other assets like future FRPs?

They are better off just letting Kuminga walk in that case.

Sure i’d take back draft picks, but I don’t think Kuminga has much value around the league as a RFA. And Davion not only fills a huge need for our team, but he happens to be great in that role (backup PG that can defend either guard spot and be respectable from 3). Also, in this scenario he’d be a much cheaper option than what Kuminga gets.

I should mention that I’m on the side of trying to keep Kuminga for 20m. But if the Dubs and Kuminga are done together, getting something back as good as Davion would be nice. And as for the idea of just letting Kuminga walk, sure that could open up the MLE… but Davion would be one of the better MLE level targets, yet Heat would just match that.

Point being, i’m open to re-signing Kuminga, letting him walk and getting a top MLE guy (Beasely, Yabu, or maybe a couple guys like Lopez and Laravia), or getting someone like Davion in a S&T… all have potentially positive outcomes.

wco81 · Post #388 » by **wco81** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:42 pm

By now, JK and his agent probably know whether they will get an offer sheet or if teams will be interested in trying to do a sign and trade.

Usually we get announcements of big free agent signings not just in the first day of free agency but often in the first hour.

Old_Blue · Post #389 » by **Old_Blue** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:54 pm

wco81 wrote:By now, JK and his agent probably know whether they will get an offer sheet or if teams will be interested in trying to do a sign and trade.

Usually we get announcements of big free agent signings not just in the first day of free agency but often in the first hour.

Other than Brooklyn, can anyone else in the League offer Kuminga more than $20 million in Year One of his contract? He picked a really stupid time to pull this stunt. :crazy:

statsman · Post #390 » by **statsman** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:21 am

Old_Blue wrote:Other than Brooklyn, can anyone else in the League offer Kuminga more than $20 million in Year One of his contract? He picked a really stupid time to pull this stunt.

I don't think so, unless some team makes a move to clear more cap space. Can't imagine a team doing that for JK, but we've seen some really questionable moves in recent months.

Maybe the Nets are decoying their moves and will make an offer to JK. That was the prevailing belief during the regular season, but the Nets just drafted five players in the first round. Who knows what they are thinking.

marthafokker · Post #391 » by **marthafokker** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:39 am

Old_Blue wrote:
wco81 wrote:By now, JK and his agent probably know whether they will get an offer sheet or if teams will be interested in trying to do a sign and trade.

Usually we get announcements of big free agent signings not just in the first day of free agency but often in the first hour.

Other than Brooklyn, can anyone else in the League offer Kuminga more than $20 million in Year One of his contract? He picked a really stupid time to pull this stunt.

Brooklyn took on money on draft day trade with Mann from Atlanta. So they don't have the money JK wants.

whatisacenter · Post #392 » by **whatisacenter** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:52 am

marthafokker wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
wco81 wrote:By now, JK and his agent probably know whether they will get an offer sheet or if teams will be interested in trying to do a sign and trade.

Usually we get announcements of big free agent signings not just in the first day of free agency but often in the first hour.

Other than Brooklyn, can anyone else in the League offer Kuminga more than $20 million in Year One of his contract? He picked a really stupid time to pull this stunt.

Brooklyn took on money on draft day trade with Mann from Atlanta. So they don't have the money JK wants.

If a team wants JK there is always a way to make it work.

Old_Blue · Post #393 » by **Old_Blue** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:05 am

That sound of Naz Reid signing for 5 years /125 million is also the sound of Kuminga's value tanking.

marthafokker · Post #394 » by **marthafokker** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:16 am

whatisacenter wrote:
marthafokker wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
Other than Brooklyn, can anyone else in the League offer Kuminga more than $20 million in Year One of his contract? He picked a really stupid time to pull this stunt.

Brooklyn took on money on draft day trade with Mann from Atlanta. So they don't have the money JK wants.

If a team wants JK there is always a way to make it work.

Not straight signing. Dubs will match if JK is that stupid. So it will have to be S&T. That is not what you are saying here.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #395 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:13 am

If the kings interest is real, monk or Keegan would be great.

Onus · Post #396 » by **Onus** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:31 pm

Officially tendered him his qo. Let his rfa begin

AirP. · Post #397 » by **AirP.** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:42 pm

Onus wrote:Officially tendered him his qo. Let his rfa begin

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whatisacenter · Post #398 » by **whatisacenter** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:04 pm

Bulls were a possible trade partner for JK but with them trading for Okoro today that ship might have sailed.

statsman · Post #399 » by **statsman** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:08 pm

Avenues for JK to sign elsewhere keep fading. I wonder how much hardball the Warriors will play if JK's agent can't arrange a S&T with some other team. JK absolutely does not want to play for the QO for several reasons. His only savior may be Lacob being enamored with him.

TB · Post #400 » by TB » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:09 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Bulls were a possible trade partner for JK but with them trading for Okoro today that ship might have sailed.

Just said it in other thread, but now is the time for the Trayce/Phillips swap.. which sets us up to sign a stretch 5 like Lopez or Sandro… which allows us more minutes of Kuminga sharing the court with Jimmy and/or Dray.