Warriors to match any offer sheet that Barnes receives.

TylerTurban · Post #41 » by **TylerTurban** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:14 am

Walk away. I don't think Barnes is as nearly as bad a lot of Dubs fans seem to think, but walk away. No way this dude should be pulling 20+.

Post #42 » by **FNQ** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:15 am

On the plus side, do you think Dirk is happy that the Mavericks aren't paying Parsons the max but are willing to fork it over to Barnes? Not exactly a win-now type move.

Coxy · Post #43 » by **Coxy** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:17 am

I want to be in on the phone conversation between Bob Myers and Donnie Nelson.

I hope Bob is signifying his want of the Dirk man. Somehow, someway, make it happen.

Post #44 » by **FNQ** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:19 am

There wont be a S&T, its pointless. We have capspace, Mavs have capspace, its a needless transaction from the Mavs end. I think it increases the chances of Dirk leaving, and that's all. I dont really want him, but I know some here do

turk3d · Post #45 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:21 am

Chris Porter's Hair wrote:And so the game of chicken comes to a climax. I REALLY hope we were bluffing. If Dallas wants to offer Barnes almost $24m a year, they can be my guest. If we can turn it into a S&T where Dirk comes back, that could be interesting for sure.

+ 1. When guys like Solomon Jones gets 4/54 I guess anything goes in this league. The NBA has totally jumped the shark. O guess Cuban's making so much money on Shark Tank), he doesn't know what to do with it. Maybe he's tryng to hamstring our cap. Hopefully he's just going to hamstring his with that crazy offer for HB. :crazy:

GS Warriors 1 · Post #46 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:21 am

You can't S&T with an RFA offer sheet, the Warriors would had to sign Barnes to a contract and then trade him.

Post #47 » by **Chris Porter's Hair** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:22 am

I just pulled up the Mavs roster just to remind myself who they have, and they actually have a few guys that are at least mildly interesting. Aside from Dirk, I had forgotten that is where Pachulia currently sits, they also have David Lee, and they have Wesley Matthews. Not sure what their plan is there if they sink $24m into Barnes. If we ended up starting Matthews instead of Barnes, I could be at peace with that.

Post #48 » by **FNQ** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:24 am

GS Warriors 1 wrote:You can't S&T with an RFA offer sheet, the Warriors would had to sign Barnes to a contract and then trade him.

You cant S&T with a signed RFA offer sheet. Everything until 7/7 is in theory. Remember the DeAndre.

Warriorfan · Post #49 » by **Warriorfan** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:28 am

I wouldnt want Barnes back at that price. I would see what we can get from Dallas. I dont think Dallas will help GS.

Post #50 » by **Chris Porter's Hair** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:28 am

FNQ wrote:
GS Warriors 1 wrote:You can't S&T with an RFA offer sheet, the Warriors would had to sign Barnes to a contract and then trade him.

You cant S&T with a signed RFA offer sheet. Everything until 7/7 is in theory. Remember the DeAndre.

Exactly. One of the benefits of this waiting period. "Oh... okay, so we're not going to match an offer that big. But you have some guys we like, and if you're rebuilding, maybe you don't want them. Should we sign him for you?"

turk3d · Post #51 » by **turk3d** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:30 am

FNQ wrote:
GS Warriors 1 wrote:You can't S&T with an RFA offer sheet, the Warriors would had to sign Barnes to a contract and then trade him.

You cant S&T with a signed RFA offer sheet. Everything until 7/7 is in theory. Remember the DeAndre.

So does mean that we sign him, and then trade him elsewhere (since we have matching rights)? Would that work? Since Philly seems to be interested and certainly has the money, move him to Philly and get one of their bigs and that fat TPE I mentioned earlier? Can we control Barnes destination at this point? Perhaps thats Meyers intent all along?

Post #52 » by **FNQ** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:33 am

turk3d wrote:
FNQ wrote:
GS Warriors 1 wrote:You can't S&T with an RFA offer sheet, the Warriors would had to sign Barnes to a contract and then trade him.

You cant S&T with a signed RFA offer sheet. Everything until 7/7 is in theory. Remember the DeAndre.

So does mean that we sign him, and then trade him elsewhere (since we have matching rights)? Would that work? Since Philly seems to be interested and certainly has the money, move him to Philly and get one of their bigs and that fat TPE I mentioned earlier? Can we control Barnes destination at this point? Perhaps thats Meyers intent all along?

Nope, Barnes dictates all non Warrior suitors.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #53 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:34 am

I hope we do the S&T or let him walk if something can't get done. I want nothing to do with Barnes at this type of money, and that's whether or not Durant signs.

Post #54 » by **FNQ** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:36 am

Chris Porter's Hair wrote:
FNQ wrote:
GS Warriors 1 wrote:You can't S&T with an RFA offer sheet, the Warriors would had to sign Barnes to a contract and then trade him.

You cant S&T with a signed RFA offer sheet. Everything until 7/7 is in theory. Remember the DeAndre.

Exactly. One of the benefits of this waiting period. "Oh... okay, so we're not going to match an offer that big. But you have some guys we like, and if you're rebuilding, maybe you don't want them. Should we sign him for you?"

Yeah it extremely benefits the team that has the RFA rights. Should we miss out on KD, we could threaten to match as a way to get a S&T trade exception. But in order to get a TE, the amount would have to be over the amount of free cap space we currently have. I'm too lazy to do that math right now, but I believe Barnes' max would start at around 21m

statsman · Post #55 » by **statsman** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:45 am

FNQ wrote:Should we miss out on KD, we could threaten to match as a way to get a S&T trade exception. But in order to get a TE, the amount would have to be over the amount of free cap space we currently have. I'm too lazy to do that math right now, but I believe Barnes' max would start at around 21m

Any TPE as a result of a S&T of Barnes is only affected by the Warriors if they're under the cap (which they wouldn't be). Assuming no salary in return, they would get a TPE for the amount of Barnes' first year on the new contract.

Post #56 » by **FNQ** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:48 am

If we miss out on KD were not under the cap?

Mylie10 · Post #57 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:48 am

statsman wrote:
FNQ wrote:Should we miss out on KD, we could threaten to match as a way to get a S&T trade exception. But in order to get a TE, the amount would have to be over the amount of free cap space we currently have. I'm too lazy to do that math right now, but I believe Barnes' max would start at around 21m

Any TPE as a result of a S&T of Barnes is only affected by the Warriors if they're under the cap (which they wouldn't be). Assuming no salary in return, they would get a TPE for the amount of Barnes' first year on the new contract.

Could we get back a player plus whatever the remaining amount would be in a TPE?

statsman · Post #58 » by **statsman** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:50 am

FNQ wrote:If we miss out on KD were not under the cap?

Nope. All of the cap holds keep the Warriors above cap. Full MLE ($5.6M). Two TPEs ($5.4M, $3.2M). Ezeli's cap hold ($5M). Speights' cap hold ($7.245M). Heck, they even have a $2.4M cap hold for O'Neal!

At the time of any possible S&T deal, Barnes would have a cap hold.

Left*My*Heart · Post #59 » by **Left*My*Heart** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:50 am

As I had thought for sometime now. Max offer and Mavs. Hopefully we do not match. Bad thing who is a clear upgrade? Seems a lot of options are gone and it looks like we are now 3rd in the Durant sweepstakes. Our front office better have a solid B and C plans.

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Mylie10 · Post #60 » by **Mylie10** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:52 am

Left*My*Heart wrote:As I had thought for sometime now. Max offer and Mavs. Hopefully we do not match. Bad thing who is a clear upgrade? Seems a lot of options are gone and it looks like we are now 3rd in the Durant sweepstakes. Our front office better have a solid B and C plans.

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