If we give Barnes 20m+

jason bourne · Post #41 » by **jason bourne** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 10:50 pm

It's pretty sad that only the Sixers are interested in signing Barnes, so I looked up what other team were interested.

Crowdsourcing says PHI, LAL and GSW.

GSW interested in Evan Turner, Festus Ezeli and KD. Small chance of getting KD. Ugh.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2016/07/01/2016-nba-free-agency-predictions-crowdsource-rankings-kevin-durant-thunder/

HiRez · Post #42 » by **HiRez** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 10:58 pm

jason bourne wrote:It's pretty sad that only the Sixers are interested in signing Barnes, so I looked up what other team were interested.

Crowdsourcing says PHI, LAL and GSW.

GSW interested in Evan Turner, Festus Ezeli and KD. Small chance of getting KD. Ugh.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2016/07/01/2016-nba-free-agency-predictions-crowdsource-rankings-kevin-durant-thunder/

Turner already agreed to $70M/4 with Blazers...which is just...well, good riddance. Since Turner can't really shoot the 3 and we already have Livingston coming off the bench, I don't even know why we'd be interested in him in the first place.

ILOVEIT · Post #43 » by **ILOVEIT** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:01 pm

First of all....Warriors are going to get Durant.

In the VERY unlikely

chance they don't....I hope the following scenarios:
1) Barnes resigns and we trade him for a Philly Big man
2) Barnes is given an offer of 22 million...but actually signs for 18 Million in a make good move to allow Warriors to also grab Gasol.

ILOVEIT · Post #44 » by **ILOVEIT** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:02 pm

jason bourne wrote:It's pretty sad that only the Sixers are interested in signing Barnes, so I looked up what other team were interested.

Crowdsourcing says PHI, LAL and GSW.

GSW interested in Evan Turner, Festus Ezeli and KD. Small chance of getting KD. Ugh.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2016/07/01/2016-nba-free-agency-predictions-crowdsource-rankings-kevin-durant-thunder/

Thank GOD Evan Turner is off the board....can't stand his game...

jason bourne · Post #45 » by **jason bourne** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:03 pm

HiRez wrote:
jason bourne wrote:It's pretty sad that only the Sixers are interested in signing Barnes, so I looked up what other team were interested.

Crowdsourcing says PHI, LAL and GSW.

GSW interested in Evan Turner, Festus Ezeli and KD. Small chance of getting KD. Ugh.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2016/07/01/2016-nba-free-agency-predictions-crowdsource-rankings-kevin-durant-thunder/

Turner already agreed to $70M/4 with Blazers...which is just...well, good riddance. Since Turner can't really shoot the 3 and we already have Livingston coming off the bench, I don't even know why we'd be interested in him in the first place.

Yeah, forget Turner for that price, but it leaves Barnes at $100 M if we don't get KD. That's even worse after his Finals performance.

HiRez · Post #46 » by **HiRez** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 12:09 am

Let's just say hypothetically the Sixers would send Noel for Barnes in some sort of sign & trade trade deal. Given that premise, would you rather:

A) Do the deal, replace Barnes with Noel (get better at C, thin at SF).

OR (not AND)

b) Wait it out for Kevin Durant and potentially end up with Durant instead of Barnes, but potentially end up with nothing or Barnes on a big contract.

TylerTurban · Post #47 » by **TylerTurban** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 4:50 am

Black Falcon wrote:
TylerTurban wrote:
Black Falcon wrote:
Ok then. Who should we sign and for how much?

Ian Mahinmi or Pau Gasol would be atop my list.

As for a Barnes replacement, I'd aim for Allen Crabbe, Marvin Williams, Moe Harkless or even Matt Barnes. I wouldn't pay any of these guys more than 14-15mil per.

You want Ian mahinimi? Ok. Gasol I understand, but we can't pay gasol and crave or Marvin Williams. We can't afford both of them.

I can see us doing something like Gasol for 7mil and Harkless for 10mil. Something along those lines.

likashing · Post #48 » by **likashing** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 4:58 am

Baze got $70.

turk3d · Post #49 » by **turk3d** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 4:58 am

You could have it prearrramged but it seems that in the past it's been done. Didn't something like that happen with Rashard Lewis? Or was he "relinquised" and then then he was signed and Traded? Although Barnes was offered the QO so that might make a difference. And what about when we got Iggy? Wasn't that some kind of a weird deal? Both Biderins and Jefferson had one years left on their deal but no option I believe.

I have to think that's what the Warriors have in mind but what if (as reported) Philly is intending to throw max money at HB. We would have the option of stopping them so I think that some kind of reasonable deal is a reasonable possility especially with all the crazy money which is being thrown around these days.

kaiballz · Post #50 » by **kaiballz** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 5:34 am

turk3d wrote:It's reported that Philly is going to throw a max deal at HB. Match and then S &T for one of Philly's big men who they also reportedly want to trade. Voila! HB S & T for Noel or Okafor + fat TPE. Use the TPE to try and get Barnes replacement.

i like this. i like this very much. Both Noel or Okafor can be the future centre of our franchise.

kaiballz · Post #51 » by **kaiballz** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 5:35 am

HiRez wrote:Let's just say hypothetically the Sixers would send Noel for Barnes in some sort of sign & trade trade deal. Given that premise, would you rather:

A) Do the deal, replace Barnes with Noel (get better at C, thin at SF).

OR (not AND)

b) Wait it out for Kevin Durant and potentially end up with Durant instead of Barnes, but potentially end up with nothing or Barnes on a big contract.

no doubt A. a guaranteed improvement. With rush coming in for barnes, we don't really lose much at SF. we can even get matt barnes.

no more letting KD toy with us. its just a pipe dream.

510TWSS · Post #52 » by **510TWSS** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 5:51 am

kaiballz wrote:
turk3d wrote:It's reported that Philly is going to throw a max deal at HB. Match and then S &T for one of Philly's big men who they also reportedly want to trade. Voila! HB S & T for Noel or Okafor + fat TPE. Use the TPE to try and get Barnes replacement.

i like this. i like this very much. Both Noel or Okafor can be the future centre of our franchise.

If Philly is feeling charitable, that is.

kaiballz · Post #53 » by **kaiballz** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 6:05 am

i am annoyed we missed out on jeff green though.. at 15m and basically offering the same stuff as HB. thanks for that, KD.

statsman · Post #54 » by **statsman** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 6:09 am

kaiballz wrote:i am annoyed we missed out on jeff green though.. at 15m and basically offering the same stuff as HB. thanks for that, KD.

That was the side plan all along. Lacob and Co have gone the "Durant or bust" route, so it's no real surprise. But I truly believe Lacob thought he had Durant in the bag just by showing up. Plan B is really starting to sound like match or re-sign Barnes.

Mylie10 · Post #55 » by **Mylie10** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 6:42 am

Resigning Barnes is what they will do most likely because they know what they have in him and they don't want to let him go for nothing. You have to get something back for your asset.

They can trade him down the road if need be. They can't let him go for nothing, in their minds.

It's not sexy.....it's not what many fans think should happen....But it protects the asset and they also realize the success the team has had with him being a major part of it.

lars_rosenberg · Post #56 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 6:56 am

"I will be very aggressive". Re-sign Barnes for the max.
That would be shameful.

HiRez · Post #57 » by **HiRez** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 7:33 am

Mylie10 wrote:Resigning Barnes is what they will do most likely because they know what they have in him and they don't want to let him go for nothing. You have to get something back for your asset.

They can trade him down the road if need be. They can't let him go for nothing, in their minds.

He'll be even more tradable after next year, when the cap is once again expected to take a major jump (last I heard the estimate was something like $108M, up from $94M). At that point even a ~$18M-$20M contract for a mediocre player may seem not outrageous.

That said, it's going to be hard to stomach another year of Harrison Barnes starting, especially as our highest paid player (probably by a lot).

HiRez · Post #58 » by **HiRez** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 7:42 am

Really starting to wonder if the Dubs wouldn't have been better served by removing KD from the equation right away, and going after pieces like Whiteside, Parsons, Gasol, Noel, Batum, etc. instead. In other words, looking for clear upgrades over Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli, not as dramatic as KD, but more obtainable. Well, they aren't out of the sweepstakes yet, hopefully KD will happen and no one will care, but Lacob is taking a hell of a risk.

SpreeS · Post #59 » by **SpreeS** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 8:25 am

Somewhere I found that Barnes get 70ml for 3 years. Is it possible that he will get this short deal?

Mylie10 · Post #60 » by **Mylie10** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 8:43 am

lars_rosenberg wrote:"I will be very aggressive". Re-sign Barnes for the max.
That would be shameful.

They are aggressively going after KD.

And maybe they don't see the others as good enough fits that require losing assets?

They shouldn't be flogged because KD decides to stay put....it was the most likely scenario anyway. But they are being really aggressive.