Wolves season watch thread for the 2021 pick

MarxyLebronist · Post #41 » by **MarxyLebronist** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:59 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:I don't know why everyone makes it so complicated. Any player now in the NBA that sucks on defense isn't worth anything relative to championship basketball. DLO is one of the worse defensive players ever. He makes Harden look like he's almost trying!

DLo was always bad like this. No idea why the league and then the Ws tried to say otherwise.
I'm not a big believer in Edwards as a main passer for a team. That won't work. But as a main "G" in the new positionless league, over DLo, I'd be all in on developing him. And on D especially, I saw some very good signs at times last night well after the blowout was assured (so, yes, garbage time work lol). But he started tracking his man way better and switching, and he devoted his attention and athleticism to D. His shot was fired often and missed too much. He's not THT. But he's better longterm than DLo or Wiggins at least.

This league.

Dubnation2020 · Post #42 » by **Dubnation2020** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:17 pm

MarxyLebronist wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:I don't know why everyone makes it so complicated. Any player now in the NBA that sucks on defense isn't worth anything relative to championship basketball. DLO is one of the worse defensive players ever. He makes Harden look like he's almost trying!

DLo was always bad like this. No idea why the league and then the Ws tried to say otherwise.
I'm not a big believer in Edwards as a main passer for a team. That won't work. But as a main "G" in the new positionless league, over DLo, I'd be all in on developing him. And on D especially, I saw some very good signs at times last night well after the blowout was assured (so, yes, garbage time work lol). But he started tracking his man way better and switching, and he devoted his attention and athleticism to D. His shot was fired often and missed too much. He's not THT. But he's better longterm than DLo or Wiggins at least.

This league.

The Warriors signed only to do the sign and trade to keep the large contract slot... they never believed he would fit in and I do believe they got him with the intention of flipoing him... I do think they probably could package him with another asset to get a better player than Wiggins though.

Little Digger · Post #43 » by **Little Digger** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:50 pm

Chet Holmgren now slotted to go to the warriors in 2022

azwfan · Post #44 » by **azwfan** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:07 am

Little Digger wrote:Chet Holmgren now slotted to go to the warriors in 2022

I know he'll fill out a bit over 2 years, but I wasn't super impressed by what I saw of him.

Old_Blue · Post #45 » by **Old_Blue** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:07 am

Little Digger wrote:Chet Holmgren now slotted to go to the warriors in 2022

Kid is KD thin and just as talented.

Rudruff · Post #46 » by **Rudruff** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:06 am

Is it wrong that I am hoping each team that plays the Wolves has a humiliating loss the game before?

PharmD · Post #47 » by **PharmD** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:17 am

DLo is the worst ball stopper i've ever seen. When he has the ball everybody needs to just stand still and watch him. Then Ricky Rubio gets the ball and everybody needs to cut so he has guys to throw sweet passes to. Makes for an awkward pairing.

Also DLo is TERRIBLE on defense holy ****.

PharmD · Post #48 » by **PharmD** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:18 am

Rudruff wrote:Is it wrong that I am hoping each team that plays the Wolves has a humiliating loss the game before?

Wolves won't win a game without Towns.

Rudruff · Post #49 » by **Rudruff** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:21 am

As much as you may think that, DLo will get hot from 3 enough to keep your hope alive. Not enough to win, but enough to beltsand your soul.

Mylie10 · Post #50 » by **Mylie10** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:35 am

MarxyLebronist wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:I don't know why everyone makes it so complicated. Any player now in the NBA that sucks on defense isn't worth anything relative to championship basketball. DLO is one of the worse defensive players ever. He makes Harden look like he's almost trying!

DLo was always bad like this. No idea why the league and then the Ws tried to say otherwise.
I'm not a big believer in Edwards as a main passer for a team. That won't work. But as a main "G" in the new positionless league, over DLo, I'd be all in on developing him. And on D especially, I saw some very good signs at times last night well after the blowout was assured (so, yes, garbage time work lol). But he started tracking his man way better and switching, and he devoted his attention and athleticism to D. His shot was fired often and missed too much. He's not THT. But he's better longterm than DLo or Wiggins at least.

This league.

They got D’Lo for the salary slot.....end of story. Then Kerr forced the front office to move him. Dlos game is the worst in the league imo

tal57 · Post #51 » by **tal57** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:07 am

Dubnation2020 wrote:
MarxyLebronist wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:I don't know why everyone makes it so complicated. Any player now in the NBA that sucks on defense isn't worth anything relative to championship basketball. DLO is one of the worse defensive players ever. He makes Harden look like he's almost trying!

DLo was always bad like this. No idea why the league and then the Ws tried to say otherwise.
I'm not a big believer in Edwards as a main passer for a team. That won't work. But as a main "G" in the new positionless league, over DLo, I'd be all in on developing him. And on D especially, I saw some very good signs at times last night well after the blowout was assured (so, yes, garbage time work lol). But he started tracking his man way better and switching, and he devoted his attention and athleticism to D. His shot was fired often and missed too much. He's not THT. But he's better longterm than DLo or Wiggins at least.

This league.

The Warriors signed only to do the sign and trade to keep the large contract slot... they never believed he would fit in and I do believe they got him with the intention of flipoing him... I do think they probably could package him with another asset to get a better player than Wiggins though.

Why do so many people assume we could have held on to DLo or somehow had gotten a better package/players for him? He was a 2nd pick in the draft on the hype, both LA and Brooklyn couldn't get rid of him fast enough. I doubt any team in the league would have given GS anything approaching MN, especially at his price tag. MN had to pacify Towns and that was the only reason they agreed to that trade. Wiggins had to be the salary ballast, GS got a nice pick out of nothing.

DubsPhilosophy · Post #52 » by **DubsPhilosophy** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:12 am

PharmD wrote:
Rudruff wrote:Is it wrong that I am hoping each team that plays the Wolves has a humiliating loss the game before?

Wolves won't win a game without Towns.

I think D'lo next to a dominant offensive big in a half court, grind it out offense could work. Alone D'lo kills any rhythm or chemistry.

OTOH, I don't know how D'lo fits in a half court scheme with his defense.

DubsPhilosophy · Post #53 » by **DubsPhilosophy** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:16 am

MarxyLebronist wrote:DLo was always bad like this. No idea why the league and then the Ws tried to say otherwise.
I'm not a big believer in Edwards as a main passer for a team. That won't work. But as a main "G" in the new positionless league, over DLo, I'd be all in on developing him. And on D especially, I saw some very good signs at times last night well after the blowout was assured (so, yes, garbage time work lol). But he started tracking his man way better and switching, and he devoted his attention and athleticism to D. His shot was fired often and missed too much. He's not THT. But he's better longterm than DLo or Wiggins at least.

This league.

You have no idea why the Ws tried to talk up D'lo? Why they tried to maximize the value of his contributions and minimize his weaknesses? A player they ultimately traded for a better player and an extremely valuable pick?

You're not serious.

clyde21 · Post #54 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:47 am

Dlo is the worst type of archetype in the entire league, inefficient, primarily on-ball guards who don't play defense are extremely hard to win with...they'll get their numbers based strictly on usage and today's run and gun NBA but are non-winning players...same reason I did not have Melo high in this draft

compare them to a guy like Haliburton, who's a much more winning archetype despite maybe not getting the raw numbers that the above two guys get...the guy should have been a top5 pick clearly

Post #55 » by **FNQ** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:14 am

clyde21 wrote:Dlo is the worst type of archetype in the entire league, inefficient, primarily on-ball guards who don't play defense are extremely hard to win with...they'll get their numbers based strictly on usage and today's run and gun NBA but are non-winning players...same reason I did not have Melo high in this draft

compare them to a guy like Haliburton, who's a much more winning archetype despite maybe not getting the raw numbers that the above two guys get...the guy should have been a top5 pick clearly

Man I remember a time where people wanted the DLo type of player over our superstar.. and I dont just mean early on, I mean right up until we dealt him for Bogut.

The Warriors used to love that type of player. Before Monta, it was Crawford. Before Crawford, Stephen Jackson. Before Jackson, it was Baron. And then an aging Van Exel, an aging Mookie Blaylock.. even our best pick in the 2000s before Steph, Agent Zero himself, was kinda built like this as well.

But I very much agree and I think the league does as well. Because consider that not only were the Wolves the team we eventually dealt with, they basically sent over another of the worst contracts in the league and a 1st over for him... and thats only because he's buddies with their star C they want to retain. What if KAT and DLo weren't friends? We might have had to just part DLo out for smaller, equally bad contracts. Gotta think the league is wise to DLo at this point. Super glad he's gone, we look a lot better without him

killmongrel · Post #56 » by **killmongrel** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:41 am

That Wolves pick is starting to look good.

Post #57 » by **floppymoose** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:38 am

Minny's January schedule is cupcake city. At least GS is on it twice, so they have a chance to influence things.

Coxy · Post #58 » by **Coxy** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:33 am

Dlo -26 and Edwards -21 on court against the Clips today, yikes.

PharmD · Post #59 » by **PharmD** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:07 pm

Coxy wrote:Dlo -26 and Edwards -21 on court against the Clips today, yikes.

DLo hit 4 straight threes in the 4th down 30. Take those out and his box score is a more honest reflection of how bad he was.

Little Digger · Post #60 » by **Little Digger** » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:03 pm

I fear a Harden trade to Minnesota