Trade Oubre PRONTO.

[Coxy]

Oubre/Smiley/Tor 2022 2nd/Dubs 2027 2nd/Min 2021 2nd (if we are a top 10 team in the league, otherwise Dubs 2022 2nd) for Evan Fournier.

Fultz and Isaac have torn ACLs, this is a lost season for the Magic. They need to tank. Oubre can be their tank commander. Fournier is the best approximation of Klay in the league. He's solid as a 3rd option and can defend at a solid level. BUT most importantly HE CAN SHOOOOOOOOOT and he's a smart player.

Orlando may do that of all of those picks are inculded.

I'd rather see if they woud want Oubre/Smiley/Poole/2nd for Evan, who is expiring also.

Also, Fournier can NOT "defend at a solid level". He's terrible on defense, but he could serve a purpose.

[Old_Blue]

Once Oubre was acquired, I read a bunch of baloney both here and elsewhere about how good Oubre was. I never bought it. And, I certainly couldn't understand taking a giant financial hit for this guy. But, most of all, I thought it was really unfair to Lee and Paschall not to give them first crack at filling in for Klay's lost minutes. The Oubre acquisition wasn't just a dumb financial move. It was also a breach of loyalty to guys who'd worked their butts off the season prior under extremely difficult circumstances. Both Lee and Paschall are playing so much better than Oubre. Neither guy's place on the team should be questioned.

So here is how I see it. Whether you believe he was really good or not, there was at least some evidence to go by that he was serviceable. He was the best available option in the off season. If there were better realistic options, I'd love to hear it. But even if he didn't work, all it really cost was money out of Lacob's wallet considering it would mean we'd be too bad to lose our pick. Also, that salary slot is still alive and can be used later to make a move. So I am not as down as everybody else on the Oubre move. He still has time to prove himself this year also.

I told you who the better options are and you witnessed tonight and in prior nights who the better options are. For the love of God, what do Lee and Paschall have to do to get any love? Seriously, watch the games and you'll see how much better a player Lee is. I don't even care whether he starts or comes off the bench. Just give the guy more minutes. The same goes for Paschall.

[chef_martin]

Oubre/Smiley/Tor 2022 2nd/Dubs 2027 2nd/Min 2021 2nd (if we are a top 10 team in the league, otherwise Dubs 2022 2nd) for Evan Fournier.

Fultz and Isaac have torn ACLs, this is a lost season for the Magic. They need to tank. Oubre can be their tank commander. Fournier is the best approximation of Klay in the league. He's solid as a 3rd option and can defend at a solid level. BUT most importantly HE CAN SHOOOOOOOOOT and he's a smart player.

Orlando may do that of all of those picks are inculded.

I'd rather see if they woud want Oubre/Smiley/Poole/2nd for Evan, who is expiring also.

Also, Fournier can NOT "defend at a solid level". He's terrible on defense, but he could serve a purpose.

I mean look, Orlando was a top 10 defense last year and the year before and yea Gordon and Isaac did cover up a lot, but Fournier should be able to defend at a high enough level within the team concept to be worth it.

[killmongrel]

Once Oubre was acquired, I read a bunch of baloney both here and elsewhere about how good Oubre was. I never bought it. And, I certainly couldn't understand taking a giant financial hit for this guy. But, most of all, I thought it was really unfair to Lee and Paschall not to give them first crack at filling in for Klay's lost minutes. The Oubre acquisition wasn't just a dumb financial move. It was also a breach of loyalty to guys who'd worked their butts off the season prior under extremely difficult circumstances. Both Lee and Paschall are playing so much better than Oubre. Neither guy's place on the team should be questioned.

So here is how I see it. Whether you believe he was really good or not, there was at least some evidence to go by that he was serviceable. He was the best available option in the off season. If there were better realistic options, I'd love to hear it. But even if he didn't work, all it really cost was money out of Lacob's wallet considering it would mean we'd be too bad to lose our pick. Also, that salary slot is still alive and can be used later to make a move. So I am not as down as everybody else on the Oubre move. He still has time to prove himself this year also.

I told you who the better options are and you witnessed tonight and in prior nights who the better options are. For the love of God, what do Lee and Paschall have to do to get any love? Seriously, watch the games and you'll see how much better a player Lee is. I don't even care whether he starts or comes off the bench. Just give the guy more minutes. The same goes for Paschall.

So your option was to not use the TPE at all? I already said that that would have caused issues with the fanbase. Gambling not to use that TPE because you thought that Lee was good enough to start would have gotten you laughed out the room. And Paschall is currently thriving on his role as a small ball 5 coming off the bench. Still believe using the TPE was the right move because it could be corrected.

[wupuck]

I like to think I'm a pretty patient person. I believe in being patient financially and budgeting wisely, I've been through years of long term health recovery, and I waited 3 dates before suggesting a hand job from my now wife. However, Kelly Oubre has done gone and sent me shooting towards the insane asylum in 9 quick games. There are moments during these games where I start to wonder if I am in fact, a homocidal maniac, only to calm down enough to put down the machette and realise, it's just Kelly Oubre that is making me want to butcher human flesh.

He's got to go. He has no place on either the starting unit, nor the bench, ever.

I'm not giving up the Warriors 1st this season, nor the Minnesota pick either, but we have to shed this clown off the roster somehow. Therefore, how can we do this? I want to see some idea's here people, maybe we can swindle the Knicks into taking his ass? Perhaps Myers can get some dirt on Masi Ujuri's love life to get him to take him off our hands? How can we shoft this dude off the payroll, immediately.

You might be patient w/ finances but not as a Warriors Fan. Kerr said it should take this team about 20 games to really find their stride - remember almost all of them haven't played together before and of them a few haven't played for over 9 months. Curry was out for over a year as was Oubre who didn't play in the bubble as he was coming off a nasty injury. Dubs just finished game 9. Even Wiggins had 12 games last season to get a feel of the motion offense Kerr likes to play - Oubre hasn't even gotten to that point yet - he's only at game 11 if u count pre-season.

Clearly Oubre is lost out there and it looks like he feels like he's on an island as he almost never gets the ball. When he finally does, he just tries to drive w/ it so it's clear it's taking him longer to figure out this motion offense. He does look like he's still working on it but his confidence has to be shaken.

Yes he's hard to watch right now, but I'd like to believe he will figure this out and learn to be less selfish w/ the ball and eventually gain the trust of the rest of the team, whether as a starter or a bench player.

[Coxy]

I like to think I'm a pretty patient person. I believe in being patient financially and budgeting wisely, I've been through years of long term health recovery, and I waited 3 dates before suggesting a hand job from my now wife. However, Kelly Oubre has done gone and sent me shooting towards the insane asylum in 9 quick games. There are moments during these games where I start to wonder if I am in fact, a homocidal maniac, only to calm down enough to put down the machette and realise, it's just Kelly Oubre that is making me want to butcher human flesh.

He's got to go. He has no place on either the starting unit, nor the bench, ever.

I'm not giving up the Warriors 1st this season, nor the Minnesota pick either, but we have to shed this clown off the roster somehow. Therefore, how can we do this? I want to see some idea's here people, maybe we can swindle the Knicks into taking his ass? Perhaps Myers can get some dirt on Masi Ujuri's love life to get him to take him off our hands? How can we shoft this dude off the payroll, immediately.

You might be patient w/ finances but not as a Warriors Fan. Kerr said it should take this team about 20 games to really find their stride - remember almost all of them haven't played together before and of them a few haven't played for over 9 months. Curry was out for over a year as was Oubre who didn't play in the bubble as he was coming off a nasty injury. Dubs just finished game 9. Even Wiggins had 12 games last season to get a feel of the motion offense Kerr likes to play - Oubre hasn't even gotten to that point yet - he's only at game 11 if u count pre-season.

Clearly Oubre is lost out there and it looks like he feels like he's on an island as he almost never gets the ball. When he finally does, he just tries to drive w/ it so it's clear it's taking him longer to figure out this motion offense. He does look like he's still working on it but his confidence has to be shaken.

Yes he's hard to watch right now, but I'd like to believe he will figure this out and learn to be less selfish w/ the ball and eventually gain the trust of the rest of the team, whether as a starter or a bench player.

I'd be on board with this thinking, but Oubre has ZERO on court IQ. It's possibly the worst I've ever seen, and I've seen some poor players in my almost 30 years of Warrior basketball. He can't think the game in this sort of team, it's just too fast for his natural insticts, and it would take a labotomy for him to function in it. He coud be useful in another team cincept, like what Phoenix ran for him to get his numbers, but he's not going to be effective on a winning NBA team that needs high IQ decision makers at all times.

He's got to go for mine, or at the very least, be parked on the end of the bench.

[killmongrel]

I like to think I'm a pretty patient person. I believe in being patient financially and budgeting wisely, I've been through years of long term health recovery, and I waited 3 dates before suggesting a hand job from my now wife. However, Kelly Oubre has done gone and sent me shooting towards the insane asylum in 9 quick games. There are moments during these games where I start to wonder if I am in fact, a homocidal maniac, only to calm down enough to put down the machette and realise, it's just Kelly Oubre that is making me want to butcher human flesh.

He's got to go. He has no place on either the starting unit, nor the bench, ever.

I'm not giving up the Warriors 1st this season, nor the Minnesota pick either, but we have to shed this clown off the roster somehow. Therefore, how can we do this? I want to see some idea's here people, maybe we can swindle the Knicks into taking his ass? Perhaps Myers can get some dirt on Masi Ujuri's love life to get him to take him off our hands? How can we shoft this dude off the payroll, immediately.

You might be patient w/ finances but not as a Warriors Fan. Kerr said it should take this team about 20 games to really find their stride - remember almost all of them haven't played together before and of them a few haven't played for over 9 months. Curry was out for over a year as was Oubre who didn't play in the bubble as he was coming off a nasty injury. Dubs just finished game 9. Even Wiggins had 12 games last season to get a feel of the motion offense Kerr likes to play - Oubre hasn't even gotten to that point yet - he's only at game 11 if u count pre-season.

Clearly Oubre is lost out there and it looks like he feels like he's on an island as he almost never gets the ball. When he finally does, he just tries to drive w/ it so it's clear it's taking him longer to figure out this motion offense. He does look like he's still working on it but his confidence has to be shaken.

Yes he's hard to watch right now, but I'd like to believe he will figure this out and learn to be less selfish w/ the ball and eventually gain the trust of the rest of the team, whether as a starter or a bench player.

I'd be on board with this thinking, but Oubre has ZERO on court IQ. It's possibly the worst I've ever seen, and I've seen some poor players in my almost 30 years of Warrior basketball. He can't think the game in this sort of team, it's just too fast for his natural insticts, and it would take a labotomy for him to function in it. He coud be useful in another team cincept, like what Phoenix ran for him to get his numbers, but he's not going to be effective on a winning NBA team that needs high IQ decision makers at all times.

He's got to go for mine, or at the very least, be parked on the end of the bench.

I'm still willing to give him several more games. But I am going to start looking at some other teams' payroll and rosters just for you.

[B-King]

He has been tough to watch, but he is a better player than this. He is pressing way too much right now.

My biggest pet peeve with him is when he looks down at his feet to make sure he is behind the 3 point line before firing. He needs to find some rhythm and then worry about the where his feet are.

[wupuck]

I like to think I'm a pretty patient person. I believe in being patient financially and budgeting wisely, I've been through years of long term health recovery, and I waited 3 dates before suggesting a hand job from my now wife. However, Kelly Oubre has done gone and sent me shooting towards the insane asylum in 9 quick games. There are moments during these games where I start to wonder if I am in fact, a homocidal maniac, only to calm down enough to put down the machette and realise, it's just Kelly Oubre that is making me want to butcher human flesh.

He's got to go. He has no place on either the starting unit, nor the bench, ever.

I'm not giving up the Warriors 1st this season, nor the Minnesota pick either, but we have to shed this clown off the roster somehow. Therefore, how can we do this? I want to see some idea's here people, maybe we can swindle the Knicks into taking his ass? Perhaps Myers can get some dirt on Masi Ujuri's love life to get him to take him off our hands? How can we shoft this dude off the payroll, immediately.

You might be patient w/ finances but not as a Warriors Fan. Kerr said it should take this team about 20 games to really find their stride - remember almost all of them haven't played together before and of them a few haven't played for over 9 months. Curry was out for over a year as was Oubre who didn't play in the bubble as he was coming off a nasty injury. Dubs just finished game 9. Even Wiggins had 12 games last season to get a feel of the motion offense Kerr likes to play - Oubre hasn't even gotten to that point yet - he's only at game 11 if u count pre-season.

Clearly Oubre is lost out there and it looks like he feels like he's on an island as he almost never gets the ball. When he finally does, he just tries to drive w/ it so it's clear it's taking him longer to figure out this motion offense. He does look like he's still working on it but his confidence has to be shaken.

Yes he's hard to watch right now, but I'd like to believe he will figure this out and learn to be less selfish w/ the ball and eventually gain the trust of the rest of the team, whether as a starter or a bench player.

I'd be on board with this thinking, but Oubre has ZERO on court IQ. It's possibly the worst I've ever seen, and I've seen some poor players in my almost 30 years of Warrior basketball. He can't think the game in this sort of team, it's just too fast for his natural insticts, and it would take a labotomy for him to function in it. He coud be useful in another team cincept, like what Phoenix ran for him to get his numbers, but he's not going to be effective on a winning NBA team that needs high IQ decision makers at all times.

He's got to go for mine, or at the very least, be parked on the end of the bench.

I do agree that he does appear to have limited oncourt awareness and vision - that said, from my understanding, Kerr's system is very complex and the Dubs have been blessed w/ some very high IQ players especially during our Championship runs.

Even if it takes Oubre another 10-15 games to figure it out, I believe we have to give him that time because as several other posters have mentioned, his value is kaput right now. Hopefully he can figure a few things out, and get back some of his value so come trade deadline the dubs have more options.

[Mylie10]

I don’t care if he’s a better player than he’s shown.....I believe that as well, but who cares?

Move him to the bench to play Four with Paschall at the five. Be an energy player on the bench and reclaim your game.

Right now the starting lineup is getting killed with Oubre in there. It’s clear as day and has been since the season started.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Oubre is capable of smothering ball dominant guards and taking them out of the game. For teams that rely heavily or exclusively on their ball handing guard this can allow the Warriors to control the game. Kerr is smart to continue going to and having confidence in Oubre because there aren't many matchups where his defense is ineffective like with bigger, stronger forwards. There will be some games he only plays 20 minutes and other games he plays 34 minutes and never lets the other team's offense find a rhythm. It's not as simple as you all are making it out to be.

[TB]

Read on Twitter

Takes a lot for Curry to be that demonstrative to his own teammate in game

Its not a hard concept.. if Curry is within your wingspan, you hit his man. Period. If I saw Curry walking down the street I'm screening anyone near him. It's gotta be a reflex

This made me legit lol

[Old_Blue]

So here is how I see it. Whether you believe he was really good or not, there was at least some evidence to go by that he was serviceable. He was the best available option in the off season. If there were better realistic options, I'd love to hear it. But even if he didn't work, all it really cost was money out of Lacob's wallet considering it would mean we'd be too bad to lose our pick. Also, that salary slot is still alive and can be used later to make a move. So I am not as down as everybody else on the Oubre move. He still has time to prove himself this year also.

I told you who the better options are and you witnessed tonight and in prior nights who the better options are. For the love of God, what do Lee and Paschall have to do to get any love? Seriously, watch the games and you'll see how much better a player Lee is. I don't even care whether he starts or comes off the bench. Just give the guy more minutes. The same goes for Paschall.

So your option was to not use the TPE at all? I already said that that would have caused issues with the fanbase. Gambling not to use that TPE because you thought that Lee was good enough to start would have gotten you laughed out the room. And Paschall is currently thriving on his role as a small ball 5 coming off the bench. Still believe using the TPE was the right move because it could be corrected.

My personal preference would have been to sign Glenn Robinson. Yet another guy who got no love - Despite very nearly having a 50/40/90 season for us last year. But, your love of Oubre is duly noted.

[TB]

I don’t care if he’s a better player than he’s shown.....I believe that as well, but who cares?

Move him to the bench to play Four with Paschall at the five. Be an energy player on the bench and reclaim your game.

Right now the starting lineup is getting killed with Oubre in there. It’s clear as day and has been since the season started.

This is correct. And it’s got the added bonus of him actually being best as a smallball 4.

[Coxy]

I don’t care if he’s a better player than he’s shown.....I believe that as well, but who cares?

Move him to the bench to play Four with Paschall at the five. Be an energy player on the bench and reclaim your game.

Right now the starting lineup is getting killed with Oubre in there. It’s clear as day and has been since the season started.

Is it possible that Oubre, is a Kerr led aqcuisition?

I mean, he played well in Phoenix, and we know that Steve has close ties in that franchise. Is it possible that he convinced Bob and Joe to make that trade, so now he is going to dig his heals in stubornly and not make a change because of it? That would make a lot of sense to me, because it is so obvious that he does not work with the starting guys, and is barely deserving of a bench spot as well.

[Dubnation2020]

I still want to see him a little more. Sure he's made some bonehead plays and his shooting has been atrocious, but I like his on the ball defense, he gets steals, blocks and deflections. He is getting a little better on off the ball defense... he is long and athletic... I understand everyone's frustation with his ofense, but he has proven he is better than he's shown... I imagine he will come around a bit, although limitations due low basketball IQ will remain. Obviously if you can trade him for Ingles, that would be great. Right now you would have to add an asset to make that happen though.

[killmongrel]

I told you who the better options are and you witnessed tonight and in prior nights who the better options are. For the love of God, what do Lee and Paschall have to do to get any love? Seriously, watch the games and you'll see how much better a player Lee is. I don't even care whether he starts or comes off the bench. Just give the guy more minutes. The same goes for Paschall.

So your option was to not use the TPE at all? I already said that that would have caused issues with the fanbase. Gambling not to use that TPE because you thought that Lee was good enough to start would have gotten you laughed out the room. And Paschall is currently thriving on his role as a small ball 5 coming off the bench. Still believe using the TPE was the right move because it could be corrected.

My personal preference would have been to sign Glenn Robinson. Yet another guy who got no love - Despite very nearly having a 50/40/90 season for us last year. But, your love of Oubre is duly noted.

Since when did I love Oubre.

Also, a lot of us wanted GR3 to be re-signed. But again, if you thought we could go into the season with him as a starter, we might as well tank. FO had to make a big move. And they did. I agreed with it. Doesn't mean I thought it would work out.

[Mylie10]

I think there’s 80 million reasons why they keep starting Oubre, but there comes a time you just have to make the move. I’d argue it was looney ago, but they are obviously gonna wait. Kerr said so tonight.

[killmongrel]

So I took a quick look at the potential trades we can do. It doesn't look good.

Rudy Gay
Winslow
Ariza
Kyle Anderson?
Will Barton
James Johnson

Each of those will have a varying degree of price when it comes to assets though.

[Mylie10]

Right now no trade. Just move him to the bench. It balances the roster.

Then go use that DPE at the deadline to add a piece.