Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice

[clyde21]

Haynes is a good guy. It was Dray who apologized, and it is Haynes who is commenting on Poole. There is no contradiction there.

yeah both things can be true, Dray being a dick and then apologizing to the team as always and Poole flexing nuts before his extension.

[Old_Blue]

Yeesh. It sounds like Draymond has been escalating this b.s. all off-season. When Draymond got into it with KD, didn't KD subsequently say something along the lines of "What happened to playing with joy?" Joy and Draymond are apparently like oil and water though.

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2022/10/5/23390458/jordan-poole-was-asking-for-it

And, come to think of it, Draymond has a history of getting into it with younger athletes based on a perceived notion that he is somehow subsidizing them. This from 2017...

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-lawsuit/27119/

Draymond Green, a star forward for the Golden State Warriors, was slapped with a lawsuit Tuesday.

Jermaine Edmondson and Bianca Williams brought claims of physical assault, bullying and misleading statements against the professional basketball player stemming from two incidents in Michigan last summer, according to lawyer Lisa Bloom, who is representing the accusers. The first sentence of their lawsuit claims that "Draymond Green is a bully."

Edmondson alleges that Green bumped into him at a bar and bullied him with a demeaning comment about being a scholarship athlete who Green is paying for. (At the time, Edmondson played football for Michigan State - Green's alma mater.)

That's when two men with Green allegedly pushed Edmondson against a wall and choked him, according to Bloom. Williams tried to intervene, but one of the men grabbed her by the neck and also pushed her against a wall.

Williams and Edmondson, who was outside the restaurant at the time, then tried to make peace with Green, but the basketball player proceeded to strike Edmondson "hard" in the face, Bloom said.

[whatisacenter]

strange that an impartial reporter reports on it and fans are still only interested in blaming one side

[Romulus]

Yeah, I'm loving the report from Haynes that Poole has been cocky and teammates have noticed. Even if true, does this in any way warrant punching a guy in practice? I mean REALLY?

[Coxy]

As I was not there and this sort of stuff tends to have media driven Chinese whispers about it, I’ll give them both the benefit of the doubt and hope they just settle the tiff and move on.

My gut instinct however, does tell me that Dray probably had the ump building on Poole who is probably starting to act like he’s a superstar and still continues to play no defence. Who knows though, none of us were there, although a few in this thread are commenting like they were.

[whatisacenter]

As I was not there and this sort of stuff tends to have media driven Chinese whispers about it, I’ll give them both the benefit of the doubt and hope they just settle the tiff and move on.

My gut instinct however, does tell me that Dray probably had the ump building on Poole who is probably starting to act like he’s a superstar and still continues to play no defence. Who knows though, none of us were there, although a few in this thread are commenting like they were.

what in the hell does this mean?

[ILOVEIT]

IMO the Bottom line is Poole doesn't want to be Draymond's bitch. Draymond feels like he MUST be able to "top dog" everhond on the team not named Curry. Poole, like KD and probably others, isn't into it.

**** gets old.

[clyde21]

As I was not there and this sort of stuff tends to have media driven Chinese whispers about it, I’ll give them both the benefit of the doubt and hope they just settle the tiff and move on.

My gut instinct however, does tell me that Dray probably had the ump building on Poole who is probably starting to act like he’s a superstar and still continues to play no defence. Who knows though, none of us were there, although a few in this thread are commenting like they were.

what in the hell does this mean?

u know...as opposed to American whispers...

or something

[Old_Blue]

Draymond feels like he MUST be able to "top dog" everyone on the team not named Curry. Poole, like KD and probably others, isn't into it.

In his jealousy fueled rage did it even occur to Draymond that should Poole end up NOT negotiating an extension and then gets traded, the perception will be that Draymond ran a SECOND star player out of town? It won't matter whether or not it's true...That will be the story the press runs with. The result would be both a distraction during the season and a potential drag on Draymond's own perceived value come his own time to negotiate.

[Chris Porter's Hair]

As I was not there and this sort of stuff tends to have media driven Chinese whispers about it, I’ll give them both the benefit of the doubt and hope they just settle the tiff and move on.

My gut instinct however, does tell me that Dray probably had the ump building on Poole who is probably starting to act like he’s a superstar and still continues to play no defence. Who knows though, none of us were there, although a few in this thread are commenting like they were.

what in the hell does this mean?

It is indeed a saying:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
Meant to convey the problem when information is passed from person to person to person, inevitably changing a bit each time. The etymology section of that Wikipedia page talks about where the terminology may have originated. I doubt Coxy meant anything offensive by it; how about we stick to a less charged name for the whole game/phenomenon, and call it telephone.

[Impuniti]

If Draymond has significant back issues, it looks like he'll be gone. They might be willing to put up with some injuries but crap like this is making it easy for the Warriors to justify unloading him if they choose to do so.

Bobby marks saying the lakers will have 32 million in space. Dray is a possibility. An anonymous exec thinks wiggs is a top candidate. Lakers just waiting for the fall out.

Lebron going after every breadcrumb out of the Warriors makes him look hilariously pathetic. Anything to make the guy that has the same rings as you weaker. I wouldn't be surprised if LeGM is plotting to take Dray or Wiggins to the Lakers next summer.

[Impuniti]

Chris just need to get the “teammates noticed behavior change due to extension” part in at Klutch’s request.

What a tool haha.

If ass kissing is a job, Chris definitely excels at it. Hopefully he washes his mouth after the job is done. Idiot doesn't even realize how transparent he looks, in particular after Andre called him out.

[HiRez]

I really doubt Poole is all puffed up about an extension he doesn't have yet. I do think it's likely there's some jealousy on Draymond's part. No one likes to be the guy aging out of the game while young pups are coming up who will replace you both physically and in the minds of your admirers. The argument could have been about something totally unrelated, but I think the money and the contracts play a role at the root of it.

[whatisacenter]

As I was not there and this sort of stuff tends to have media driven Chinese whispers about it, I’ll give them both the benefit of the doubt and hope they just settle the tiff and move on.

My gut instinct however, does tell me that Dray probably had the ump building on Poole who is probably starting to act like he’s a superstar and still continues to play no defence. Who knows though, none of us were there, although a few in this thread are commenting like they were.

what in the hell does this mean?

It is indeed a saying:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
Meant to convey the problem when information is passed from person to person to person, inevitably changing a bit each time. The etymology section of that Wikipedia page talks about where the terminology may have originated. I doubt Coxy meant anything offensive by it; how about we stick to a less charged name for the whole game/phenomenon, and call it telephone.

thanks, that's a new one to me.

[GSWFan1994]

This is not good looking from the outside, but these guys are adults and pros, and from my point of view will quickly put this situation right behind them.

We have a great chance to repeat this next season, and it would be unfortunate that this could signal some inner turmoil within the team.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I think Draymond is without a doubt a bully. And that bullying has a lot to do with why we won 3 chips in 5 consecutive trips to the Finals.

But last year we won a chip because Steph was the bully and Steph knows how to confine his bullying to the other team.

I think Dray feels pressure to prove that his bullying still can make a championship impact because he's trying to secure that last big bag. And his biggest asset is being the ringleader of a dominant defensive team. If Poole still refuses to buy into that because he's got "an abundance of swag", that undermines Dray's influence.

If the Warriors success next season is rooted in the splash triplets outscoring everyone it might make Dray insecure and feel his contributions won't be sufficiently respected for him to have the leverage he wants in contract negotiations. The last part is admittedly bald speculation but it makes some sense to me.

There's also the fact that Klay was just recently chirping at Poole for what sounded like reasons having to do with Poole's ego getting rather swole. I like Poole but if he feels like his success last season is all about his ability and nothing about playing alongside Steph and Klay he should probably tell the FO he wants to go elsewhere and see how it works out without them.

[Old_Blue]

Another reason to dislike the luxury tax...it apparently has the ability to affect team chemistry.

[Senchu]

I just want to note that after 3point contest of Curry/Klay vs Poole/Moody in Japan, Klay told the reporters that Poole needed some humbling.
At that point I thought it was just a joke from Klay, now maybe there is more truth to it.

[Old_Blue]

I just want to note that after 3point contest of Curry/Klay vs Poole/Moody in Japan, Klay told the reporters that Poole needed some humbling.
At that point I thought it was just a joke from Klay, now maybe there is more truth to it.

Given Klay's current contract, how much of it he has (and has not) earned and the impact of that contract on the team's current luxury tax situation, Klay would be wise to not interject himself into this mess. Regardless of what happens with Wiggins, Poole and Draymond, Klay will be the most overpaid Warrior for both of the next two seasons.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

We don't need to take sides. We don't know much. As fans we should be hoping that no lasting damage is done between Draymond and Poole.because they have chamionships to win for which both of them will be needed.