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12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST

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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#41 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:35 am

As good as Draymond has been on offense tonight, his defense has been well, well below his standard
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#42 » by cdubbz » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:35 am

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Onus wrote:The problem is that he’s like the 4th option in the starting lineup. We’re trying to showcase Wiggins and jk in the starting lineup for some reason.


For some reason? Kuminga is capable of getting buckets and so is Wiggins. If those two can get it going then it makes that lineup that much more deadly having two elite shooters too. It works for both sides -- if Curry & Hield are going off then they can make the defense if they double and giving it up to wiggins or jk.

he is not....he is 55%TS finisher probably one of the worst in the league at 4.


*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#43 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:36 am

We are much better playing fast in motion instead of pnr iso that many are clamoring for. If steph and dray are on the court, he need shooters and movers not ball stopping iso players. No idea why people think Jimmy is such a good fit
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#44 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:37 am

CDM_Stats wrote:As good as Draymond has been on offense tonight, his defense has been well, well below his standard


Kerr: we are starting jk over you for more offense.

Dray: I'm getting my starting spot back.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#45 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:38 am

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For some reason? Kuminga is capable of getting buckets and so is Wiggins. If those two can get it going then it makes that lineup that much more deadly having two elite shooters too. It works for both sides -- if Curry & Hield are going off then they can make the defense if they double and giving it up to wiggins or jk.

he is not....he is 55%TS finisher probably one of the worst in the league at 4.


*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.


Let's say he starts going off on PJ Washington... how does that help Curry or Hield? Are Kyrie or Klay going to sag off them to help on JK, or is it more likely that Mavs have Lively sag off Looney, if not entirely switch?

The problem is the odds were always against it working because the Mavs have the setup that is toughest for JK.. a quicker PF and a shot-blocking C. And then on defense, PJ Washington (who's roughly the same size as JK) was beating him in the post, quicker than him, and was riding his hip on drives instead of funneling to the low block

I understand the idea in theory, but in practice, against this team, it was not a good idea. Its why I think Kerr has to be flexible and proactive instead of rigid and reactive. We arent good enough for that to work anymore
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#46 » by Onus » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:39 am

CDM_Stats wrote:JK's not the problem, its him being thrust into a position where a lot of things depend on his initial success.. that's not a good idea. You'd want a more consistent player doing that

They’re trying to see what he can do in a bigger role to see whether or not to keep him. That’s pretty much being a problem.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#47 » by cpower » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:40 am

cdubbz wrote:
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cdubbz wrote:
For some reason? Kuminga is capable of getting buckets and so is Wiggins. If those two can get it going then it makes that lineup that much more deadly having two elite shooters too. It works for both sides -- if Curry & Hield are going off then they can make the defense if they double and giving it up to wiggins or jk.

he is not....he is 55%TS finisher probably one of the worst in the league at 4.


*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.

every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#48 » by cdubbz » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:44 am

cpower wrote:
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cpower wrote:he is not....he is 55%TS finisher probably one of the worst in the league at 4.


*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.

every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.


I'll disagree. Kuminga has shown he can be a solid scoring option when featured and I don't mind him getting the chances early in the game. IF Kuminga can get going it opens the floor up for everyone else.

I'm not even a big JK fan.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#49 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:46 am

cpower wrote:
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cpower wrote:he is not....he is 55%TS finisher probably one of the worst in the league at 4.


*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.

every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.


Jk is at 51 ts and podz is at 46 ts.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#50 » by cpower » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:46 am

cdubbz wrote:
cpower wrote:
cdubbz wrote:
*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.

every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.


I'll disagree. Kuminga has shown he can be a solid scoring option when featured and I don't mind him getting the chances early in the game. IF Kuminga can get going it opens the floor up for everyone else.

I'm not even a big JK fan.

you dont want to feature a player, you want a player to bring you Ws. To try to develop young players into a star is the wrong thinking, its always the other way - your young players bring you more wins and make your team better.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#51 » by cpower » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:47 am

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cpower wrote:
cdubbz wrote:
*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.

every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.


Jk is at 51 ts and podz is at 46 ts.

damn i was looking at one of the better years then :banghead:
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#52 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:48 am

cdubbz wrote:
cpower wrote:
cdubbz wrote:
*He has the ability to get a bucket.

Warriors are struggling to get scoring outside of steph so it makes sense to feature the guy who can get a bucket.

every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.


I'll disagree. Kuminga has shown he can be a solid scoring option when featured and I don't mind him getting the chances early in the game. IF Kuminga can get going it opens the floor up for everyone else.

I'm not even a big JK fan.


It doesn't though. Jk is strictly iso and has tunnel vision for the rim. Teams don't need to help on him, so defense doesn't move. Guard him into the lane into their C. That's it.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#53 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:52 am

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cdubbz wrote:
cpower wrote:every NBA player has ability to get a bucket, Podz can get 1 at 49%TS, JK can get 1 at 55%TS. we should not allow them to play this way.


I'll disagree. Kuminga has shown he can be a solid scoring option when featured and I don't mind him getting the chances early in the game. IF Kuminga can get going it opens the floor up for everyone else.

I'm not even a big JK fan.


It doesn't though. Jk is strictly iso and has tunnel vision for the rim. Teams don't need to help on him, so defense doesn't move. Guard him into the lane into their C. That's it.


I'd love to see one response to this, this same argument happens over and over and as soon as this is brought up, it goes silent and then re-appears a day or two later
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Post#54 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:52 am

Id be running steph/ wiggins 2 man game all game. Make luka abd klay defend.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#55 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:54 am

Luka's just amazing tonight
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#56 » by cpower » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:55 am

JK terrible offense
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#57 » by cdubbz » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:55 am

CDM_Stats wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
cdubbz wrote:
I'll disagree. Kuminga has shown he can be a solid scoring option when featured and I don't mind him getting the chances early in the game. IF Kuminga can get going it opens the floor up for everyone else.

I'm not even a big JK fan.


It doesn't though. Jk is strictly iso and has tunnel vision for the rim. Teams don't need to help on him, so defense doesn't move. Guard him into the lane into their C. That's it.


I'd love to see one response to this, this same argument happens over and over and as soon as this is brought up, it goes silent and then re-appears a day or two later


Like I said I'm not a Kuminga fan, but Warriors need guys who can create offense for themselves outside of Steph. If the Warriors feature kuminga early in the game for some looks i'm not mad it. SOMEONE needs to score.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#58 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:55 am

Mavs are hitting a ton of contested jumpers.
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#59 » by cpower » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:56 am

JK Buddy Curry thats a bad bad defensive lineup. what is Steve Kerr thinking
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Re: 12/15 - Game 25: Mavericks (16-9) @ Warriors (14-10) 5:30pm PST 

Post#60 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:56 am

Last few possessions have been Wiggins/JK centric and gone nowhere

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