So what is Golden State doing this off season? Thoughts?

[Crazy-Canuck]

I think the only way that makes sense is if JK refuses to play ball on a sign and trade and just signs a contract with the Nets for $30-35 mill per. Now instead of letting him leave for nothing, you match it, then wait until December 15 when you can trade him.

On the court like you said it's a terrible fit, but I'd rather do that then just let JK leave for nothing. It's like what the Suns did matching DeAndre Ayton even though he didn't want to be there, they didn't want him there, and they ended up flipping him for Jusuf Nurkic (oops).

DeAndre still was starter center and showed "some stats". In our case we would match 30-35mln contract and Kerr would rot him on the bench...What kind of value do you get from that contract? Everybody knows that Kimunga cant play for small stints, he is rythm player. This contract would become negative very fast...To get something useful you would need to attach picks, but this is totally catashrope...

Nets will pay Kuminga looking at free agents list this summer, no doubt here. And GSW doesnt have good exit from this situation - all 3 options are bad. Kuminga saved his ass in last 4 games and put GSW in very questionable position.

we need to send more incentive for Nets for S/T. 1 FRP + JK and try to negotiate lower contract value would be a good start.

Nets wanted at least 2 picks (including the 2025 one) and that's when jk had some value. Now it's going to take more because jk is the only salary ballast left except now we need to include picks in the post steph years because can't give up the 2026 pick and a swap is useless. So, that's 2027 and possibly 2029 picks at the very least. And if they really wanted jk, they could just send an offer sheet out right.

There is no likely path at cam johnson.

[cpower]

we need to send more incentive for Nets for S/T. 1 FRP + JK and try to negotiate lower contract value would be a good start.

Kuminga/Nets dont need GSW at all. Nets will get first for Cam in trade market.

Isn't he a restricted FA?

yeah but if they overpay JK, we probably dont want to match. And Nets know we dont want to keep him so they may just sign him lower .. I think this is where negotiation happens between the GMs. Hopefully Dunleavy is pulling some magic.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Core

Steph
Jimmy
Dray

We need switchable wings that can shoot, are athletic, and who kerr will play while being smart enough to be able to adjust to steph and dray in one off season.

We need a reliable part time C because we know dray will be the C in the important minutes. Ideally one that can defend and shoot.

A bench shot creator in the non steph minutes. I think Jimmy prefers to be more of a facilitator and scorer rather than be just a shot hunter.

3 needs.

Assets

Everyone else. But I think you have to keep podz, Santos, and one of post or tjd because of their salaries.

That leaves moody, heild, and jk as the "assets". Gp2 and loon have no value and are just as likely to return on vet min deals.

So, no idea what a moody, jk, and heild package gets you without having to mortgage post steph picks.

I'd take a run at aldama. Full mle. He's be a nice stretch 5 who can play 20+ minutes a night.

Also hit the vet min market for a sg or pg. The FA class is mostly guards and bigs with no wings available unless you live oubre.

Use jk, moody, heild, etc.. to target a wing in the 20M-30M range. Trey Murphy or deni type would be great, but zero chance that happens. Wiggins and derozan are probably the only 2 that might be available.

[vvoland]

Core

Steph
Jimmy
Dray

We need switchable wings that can shoot, are athletic, and who kerr will play while being smart enough to be able to adjust to steph and dray in one off season.

We need a reliable part time C because we know dray will be the C in the important minutes. Ideally one that can defend and shoot.

A bench shot creator in the non steph minutes. I think Jimmy prefers to be more of a facilitator and scorer rather than be just a shot hunter.

3 needs.

Assets

Everyone else. But I think you have to keep podz, Santos, and one of post or tjd because of their salaries.

That leaves moody, heild, and jk as the "assets". Gp2 and loon have no value and are just as likely to return on vet min deals.

So, no idea what a moody, jk, and heild package gets you without having to mortgage post steph picks.

I'd take a run at aldama. Full mle. He's be a nice stretch 5 who can play 20+ minutes a night.

Also hit the vet min market for a sg or pg. The FA class is mostly guards and bigs with no wings available unless you live oubre.

Use jk, moody, heild, etc.. to target a wing in the 20M-30M range. Trey Murphy or deni type would be great, but zero chance that happens. Wiggins and derozan are probably the only 2 that might be available.

I've been thinking about this piece for a bit. Let's says it's Trey or Deni. Would either team turn down 2 picks + 1 swap (let's say top 1 protected only for all 3). Por is on the market so it might make sense for them to double down on the rebuild and NO is a dumpster fire that might be emptying out the dumpster. Sure, Trey is the best trade chip they got but are they really getting more than 2 FRPs and a swap for him? The question is, do we want to overpay by that much for a player like Trey or Deni? I'm not sure but I do think Steph, Jimmy, Dray, Deni/Trey would be quite formidable. That CP3 contract we had last summer would be summer helpful right now

[Crazy-Canuck]

Core

Steph
Jimmy
Dray

We need switchable wings that can shoot, are athletic, and who kerr will play while being smart enough to be able to adjust to steph and dray in one off season.

We need a reliable part time C because we know dray will be the C in the important minutes. Ideally one that can defend and shoot.

A bench shot creator in the non steph minutes. I think Jimmy prefers to be more of a facilitator and scorer rather than be just a shot hunter.

3 needs.

Assets

Everyone else. But I think you have to keep podz, Santos, and one of post or tjd because of their salaries.

That leaves moody, heild, and jk as the "assets". Gp2 and loon have no value and are just as likely to return on vet min deals.

So, no idea what a moody, jk, and heild package gets you without having to mortgage post steph picks.

I'd take a run at aldama. Full mle. He's be a nice stretch 5 who can play 20+ minutes a night.

Also hit the vet min market for a sg or pg. The FA class is mostly guards and bigs with no wings available unless you live oubre.

Use jk, moody, heild, etc.. to target a wing in the 20M-30M range. Trey Murphy or deni type would be great, but zero chance that happens. Wiggins and derozan are probably the only 2 that might be available.

I've been thinking about this piece for a bit. Let's says it's Trey or Deni. Would either team turn down 2 picks + 1 swap (let's say top 1 protected only for all 3). Por is on the market so it might make sense for them to double down on the rebuild and NO is a dumpster fire that might be emptying out the dumpster. Sure, Trey is the best trade chip they got but are they really getting more than 2 FRPs and a swap for him? The question is, do we want to overpay by that much for a player like Trey or Deni? I'm not sure but I do think Steph, Jimmy, Dray, Deni/Trey would be quite formidable. That CP3 contract we had last summer would be summer helpful right now

No way I pay that for either player. Those are post steph year, 3 years of potential top of the lottery picks. There's probably less than 5 to 10 players id even consider talking about for those post steph picks.

[vvoland]

Core

Steph
Jimmy
Dray

We need switchable wings that can shoot, are athletic, and who kerr will play while being smart enough to be able to adjust to steph and dray in one off season.

We need a reliable part time C because we know dray will be the C in the important minutes. Ideally one that can defend and shoot.

A bench shot creator in the non steph minutes. I think Jimmy prefers to be more of a facilitator and scorer rather than be just a shot hunter.

3 needs.

Assets

Everyone else. But I think you have to keep podz, Santos, and one of post or tjd because of their salaries.

That leaves moody, heild, and jk as the "assets". Gp2 and loon have no value and are just as likely to return on vet min deals.

So, no idea what a moody, jk, and heild package gets you without having to mortgage post steph picks.

I'd take a run at aldama. Full mle. He's be a nice stretch 5 who can play 20+ minutes a night.

Also hit the vet min market for a sg or pg. The FA class is mostly guards and bigs with no wings available unless you live oubre.

Use jk, moody, heild, etc.. to target a wing in the 20M-30M range. Trey Murphy or deni type would be great, but zero chance that happens. Wiggins and derozan are probably the only 2 that might be available.

I've been thinking about this piece for a bit. Let's says it's Trey or Deni. Would either team turn down 2 picks + 1 swap (let's say top 1 protected only for all 3). Por is on the market so it might make sense for them to double down on the rebuild and NO is a dumpster fire that might be emptying out the dumpster. Sure, Trey is the best trade chip they got but are they really getting more than 2 FRPs and a swap for him? The question is, do we want to overpay by that much for a player like Trey or Deni? I'm not sure but I do think Steph, Jimmy, Dray, Deni/Trey would be quite formidable. That CP3 contract we had last summer would be summer helpful right now

No way I pay that for either player. Those are post steph year, 3 years of potential top of the lottery picks. There's probably less than 5 to 10 players id even consider talking about for those post steph picks.

Ok, so what's the price you would pay for a price controlled, in-their-prime two-way wing? 2 + 1 swap, top 1 protected, seems like an overpay but not a dramatic one. Look at what Bridges netted for the Nets, no pun intended. He's more expensive and not that much better (outside the 'nova thing). Considering how these drafts are going, I'm becoming less and less attached to picks, especially if they're top 1-3 protected.