Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[Crazy-Canuck]

Jk was sitting next to Joe at the valkeryies game. Hes staying.

With they way they were acting with each other, I wouldn't be surprised if a wink wink max extension is already in place. Either that or they concocted a plan to push kerr out.

[whatisacenter]

Jk was sitting next to Joe at the valkeryies game. Hes staying.

With they way they were acting with each other, I wouldn't be surprised if a wink wink max extension is already in place. Either that or they concocted a plan to push kerr out.

Listening to the exit interviews with Kerr and MDJ yesterday there is no way Kerr is gone next season.

I will be shocked if JK is back next season.

[Onus]

Jk was sitting next to Joe at the valkeryies game. Hes staying.

With they way they were acting with each other, I wouldn't be surprised if a wink wink max extension is already in place. Either that or they concocted a plan to push kerr out.

Listening to the exit interviews with Kerr and MDJ yesterday there is no way Kerr is gone next season.

I will be shocked if JK is back next season.

Kerr started the year with jk. Jk was thriving for a short period during the year. The injury took him out of rhythm and the team changed with butler. With a full off season I would expect jk to get another shot to start and if that doesn’t work out he’ll be a 6th man that gets 30 mpg. Once a player gets a large extension they’re going to play.

[vvoland]

With they way they were acting with each other, I wouldn't be surprised if a wink wink max extension is already in place. Either that or they concocted a plan to push kerr out.

Listening to the exit interviews with Kerr and MDJ yesterday there is no way Kerr is gone next season.

I will be shocked if JK is back next season.

Kerr started the year with jk. Jk was thriving for a short period during the year. The injury took him out of rhythm and the team changed with butler. With a full off season I would expect jk to get another shot to start and if that doesn’t work out he’ll be a 6th man that gets 30 mpg. Once a player gets a large extension they’re going to play.

I think the narrative that a significant portion of the coaching staff really doesn't like JK is correct. I don't see any way jk is on the team past the deadline next season. If I'm his representative, I'm telling him to sign nothing but the QO and I'm trusting Kerr only if I get one of his kids as a hostage, medieval prince style.

[Onus]

Listening to the exit interviews with Kerr and MDJ yesterday there is no way Kerr is gone next season.

I will be shocked if JK is back next season.

Kerr started the year with jk. Jk was thriving for a short period during the year. The injury took him out of rhythm and the team changed with butler. With a full off season I would expect jk to get another shot to start and if that doesn’t work out he’ll be a 6th man that gets 30 mpg. Once a player gets a large extension they’re going to play.

I think the narrative that a significant portion of the coaching staff really doesn't like JK is correct. I don't see any way jk is on the team past the deadline next season. If I'm his representative, I'm telling him to sign nothing but the QO and I'm trusting Kerr only if I get one of his kids as a hostage, medieval prince style.

Jk is taking as much as he can get this off season. It would be idiotic for him to play on the qo.

Kerr played jp once he got his extension extensive minutes even though Jp quit on the team.

Once jk gets 25+ per year he’s going to play large minutes.

[vvoland]

Kerr started the year with jk. Jk was thriving for a short period during the year. The injury took him out of rhythm and the team changed with butler. With a full off season I would expect jk to get another shot to start and if that doesn’t work out he’ll be a 6th man that gets 30 mpg. Once a player gets a large extension they’re going to play.

I think the narrative that a significant portion of the coaching staff really doesn't like JK is correct. I don't see any way jk is on the team past the deadline next season. If I'm his representative, I'm telling him to sign nothing but the QO and I'm trusting Kerr only if I get one of his kids as a hostage, medieval prince style.

Jk is taking as much as he can get this off season. It would be idiotic for him to play on the qo.

Kerr played jp once he got his extension extensive minutes even though Jp quit on the team.

Once jk gets 25+ per year he’s going to play large minutes.

Kerr played jp because dray almost killed him and they had no other options in the backcourt. Benching jp would have tanked his trade value further while looking like he was the guy we blamed for getting knocked out. I don't think any of that will apply to jk. Plus, jp was a Kerr player - ball handling, undersized guard that shot well and passed willingly.

[Onus]

I think the narrative that a significant portion of the coaching staff really doesn't like JK is correct. I don't see any way jk is on the team past the deadline next season. If I'm his representative, I'm telling him to sign nothing but the QO and I'm trusting Kerr only if I get one of his kids as a hostage, medieval prince style.

Jk is taking as much as he can get this off season. It would be idiotic for him to play on the qo.

Kerr played jp once he got his extension extensive minutes even though Jp quit on the team.

Once jk gets 25+ per year he’s going to play large minutes.

Kerr played jp because dray almost killed him and they had no other options in the backcourt. Benching jp would have tanked his trade value further while looking like he was the guy we blamed for getting knocked out. I don't think any of that will apply to jk. Plus, jp was a Kerr player - ball handling, undersized guard that shot well and passed willingly.

He also did it with Klay and cp3 until it wasn’t sustainable anymore.

[GS Warriors 1]

No chance he's on a QO.

He's getting paid, can't really tell what his market could be at this stage, but it's pretty much a lock that he's getting a multi-year deal, whether that's staying with the Warriors or on another team.

[EvanZ]

I think the only way THE ONLY WAY this works is if JK starts and Draymond comes off the bench. It simply does not work any other way. And even in this scenario you still need a stretch 5. It's just so hard to make these 3 guys (JK, Jimmy and Dray) work together.

[thunderdunk]

Just asking -- is there any realistic scenario under the cap rules where the Dubs could get someone like Giannis or KD as part of a package trade? Or do the rules now make that impossible without trading Jimmy or Steph?

[cladden]

No chance he's on a QO.

He's getting paid, can't really tell what his market could be at this stage, but it's pretty much a lock that he's getting a multi-year deal, whether that's staying with the Warriors or on another team.

He can't really choose right? Can't we match any offer he gets with his early-bird or something like that?

I don't think anyone's going to offer him more than 30m per and I sorta think the warriors will match any offer up to that. If nothing else to try to showcase him and trade him during the season. I'm still something of a believer in him and I hope he stays and plays well next year. If these playoffs have shown us anything it is (among other things) that we're woefully short on people who can score in any fashion whatsoever. There's Curry, Jimmy once every 5 games and absolutely nothing behind it. Try again to make it work or just trade everyone for picks and tank is my opinion. I like Moody and Podz a lot but they are not scorers.

[statsman]

Yes, the Warriors can match any RFA offer. Now, if the offer approaches the max for Kuminga, the Warriors run into problems staying below the second apron and all of the penalties that entails if exceeded.

Only a month and a half before we find out.

[vvoland]

I think the only way THE ONLY WAY this works is if JK starts and Draymond comes off the bench. It simply does not work any other way. And even in this scenario you still need a stretch 5. It's just so hard to make these 3 guys (JK, Jimmy and Dray) work together.

Steph/dray/jk worked pretty well together this season.

Dray/Jimmy/jk played 135 total possessions this postseason and were -3.6 ntrg with buddy and podz, -16 ntrg with podz and moody and +50 ntrg with podz and gp2. Unfortunately, it was only 61/20/20 possessions, respectively. When those three played with TJD or Spencer the results were predictably disastrous: -150 net rating but, thankfully, it was only a few possessions.

Dray, Jimmy, Steph, jk, and podz were a +24 ntrg in these playoffs but it was only 7 possessions. Really makes you think about Kerr just shutting that down late in the year.

[vvoland]

Yes, the Warriors can match any RFA offer. Now, if the offer approaches the max for Kuminga, the Warriors run into problems staying below the second apron and all of the penalties that entails if exceeded.

Only a month and a half before we find out.

There will be issues if the contract is structured in a front loaded way but I don't think anyone will offer him that much. The new CBA is ultra punitive and tying up cap space while a teams thinks about matching is problematic for the team extending the offer. I'm guessing he'll have something like 4/100 on the table from a few teams but not much more than that.

[CS707]

No way Kuminga plays on the QO. He already almost pissed away a huge payday. He’s not going to risk that again. At this point I think bringing him back is probably the best move anyway. His trade value is tanked and the organization doesn’t have much flexibility regardless. Might as well just try and see it through. His extension isn’t going to extend that much further than Steph, Dray, etc. We can go full reset in a few years if needed.

[migya]

If he agrees and it is acceptable by parties who weren't so happy with each other when he left, KD for Kuminga and filler? The go for one last ride and then off to retirement.

[sonnyhill]

With the salary cap, can the Warriors, even if they wanted to, sign and keep Kuminga on this roster?

[marthafokker]

With the salary cap, can the Warriors, even if they wanted to, sign and keep Kuminga on this roster?

Sure they can. Just that they lose picks and lose rights to use MLE. Basically can't upgrade the team.

[SpreeS]

To get role players around Curry/Green/Butler is good thing, but not role players wins championships. Yes Looney/Payton/Porter helped a lot to win it all in 2022, but the main factor was our scorers. We lost Payton for half of PO and this injury did change anything for us.

20pts games in 2022 PO

Poole 7 game
Klay 6 game
Wiggs 4 game
Looney 1 game

We had 4 players capable to score +20pts on any night and 3 of them weren't positive defenders, atleast avg. Also these players weren't random role players like Podz or Hield with 10pts/g in RS, they all have career scoring avarages near 20pts.

So Curry will be 38y and Butler 36y next year, what kind of scorer/role player we would get for Kuminga, if we can get only back player with half of Kuminga new salary? 15mln? 12.5mln? We just wouldn't ouscore our opponents...

[Onus]

Would anyone S&T JK to Brooklyn for 2 of their 1sts (19 and 26)? Draft one of Sorber/Fleming/Lendebourg at 19 and then at 26 draft one of Clayton or Pettiford. We then fill 2 needs with cheap prospects in a 2 way big and a shot creator. At 41 we could then take one of the 3 and d prospects (Byrd, Powell, Proctor). We'd also have our full mle to fill out the roster

Curry/Clayton
Podz/Buddy/Byrd
Jimmy/MM
Dray/Santos
Post/Sorber/TJD