Should the Warriors make a trade?

[jozef]

Blockbuster idea:
Schroeder, Payton, Anderson, Looney, Hield, Moody and picks for LaVine and Vucevic.
Rotation:
PG Curry, Podziemski, Spencer
SG LaVine, Podziemski, Waters
SF Wiggins, Santos, Kuminga
PF Green, Kuminga
C Vucevic, Jackson-Davis, Post

Not even close to following basic nba trade rules.
You might as well propose giannis for Looney.

Probably you are right but Trade Checker makes it possible
Trade ID #8832625
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8832625

[TB]

I know Shams reported when Dennis was traded that he could still be used in a bigger trade later.... but my understanding is he can be traded, but not along with other players. So it would basically have to be only Dennis for something, not adding his 13m to GP2/Loon/etc to get to a bigger number.

Anyone know that exact specifics there?

[HiRez]

I know Shams reported when Dennis was traded that he could still be used in a bigger trade later.... but my understanding is he can be traded, but not along with other players. So it would basically have to be only Dennis for something, not adding his 13m to GP2/Loon/etc to get to a bigger number.

Anyone know that exact specifics there?

I think I asked about that earlier and x said something about an exception for recently traded rules like 24 hours or less up to the trade deadline. So I think Schröder can be aggregated in that small window.

ps. The NBA trade rules are insane. I'm sure they have reasons but it's really nuts.

[NW]

I know Shams reported when Dennis was traded that he could still be used in a bigger trade later.... but my understanding is he can be traded, but not along with other players. So it would basically have to be only Dennis for something, not adding his 13m to GP2/Loon/etc to get to a bigger number.

Anyone know that exact specifics there?

He can be aggregated with other players, but not until day before the deadline. Previously, that wouldn’t be the case, but they changed the rule when they moved the deadline date. It’s why they made sure to make the Schroder deal the day Melton became trade eligible

[xdrta+]

I know Shams reported when Dennis was traded that he could still be used in a bigger trade later.... but my understanding is he can be traded, but not along with other players. So it would basically have to be only Dennis for something, not adding his 13m to GP2/Loon/etc to get to a bigger number.

Anyone know that exact specifics there?

He can be aggregated with other players, but not until day before the deadline. Previously, that wouldn’t be the case, but they changed the rule when they moved the deadline date. It’s why they made sure to make the Schroder deal the day Melton became trade eligible

Exactly. He had to be traded by Dec 16 for that rule to apply. Anyone traded after that date can't be aggregated this season.

[superunknown]

IF THE GOAL IS STILL TO COMPETE, they have to think medium term here. make 1 or 2 trades that improve the roster at the deadline using the expiring contracts (GPII, loon) and those that don't move the needle or are redundant (anderson, hield, waters, possibly schroder). you will replace them with the guys you already have who are younger and cheaper in santos (GPII), moody (hield), post (anderson), podz (schroder/waters), TJD (looney).
then in the offseason extend kuminga to recreate that large contract slot needed to make a significant move without sacrificing wiggins, and trade him for a bigger fish. it doesn't have to be a 36 years old jimmy buttler, it can be someone still young like zion or in his prime like lavine, but it needs to be someone who is a legit second violin bringing in at least 22-25 points per game. if needed, trade some picks and someone else (podz? moody? dray?) to make ends meet or further shake-up.
this season if a wash anyway, start to plan for the next one. the only 2 untouchables should be steph and wiggo, maybe dray depending on the type of players you can bring in. everyone else should be expendable.
between the deadline and the offseason you need to grow some balls and retool around steph without sacrificing wiggins and maybe dray. that's the only logical path left if you still want to compete for the next 2-3 years.

[SpreeS]

IF THE GOAL IS STILL TO COMPETE, they have to think medium term here. make 1 or 2 trades that improve the roster at the deadline using the expiring contracts (GPII, loon) and those that don't move the needle or are redundant (anderson, hield, waters, possibly schroder). you will replace them with the guys you already have who are younger and cheaper in santos (GPII), moody (hield), post (anderson), podz (schroder/waters), TJD (looney).
then in the offseason extend kuminga to recreate that large contract slot needed to make a significant move without sacrificing wiggins, and trade him for a bigger fish. it doesn't have to be a 36 years old jimmy buttler, it can be someone still young like zion or in his prime like lavine, but it needs to be someone who is a legit second violin bringing in at least 22-25 points per game. if needed, trade some picks and someone else (podz? moody? dray?) to make ends meet or further shake-up.
this season if a wash anyway, start to plan for the next one. the only 2 untouchables should be steph and wiggo, maybe dray depending on the type of players you can bring in. everyone else should be expendable.
between the deadline and the offseason you need to grow some balls and retool around steph without sacrificing wiggins and maybe dray. that's the only logical path left if you still want to compete for the next 2-3 years.

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Compete i want to know what kind of stuff all you smoke here

[superunknown]

IF THE GOAL IS STILL TO COMPETE, they have to think medium term here. make 1 or 2 trades that improve the roster at the deadline using the expiring contracts (GPII, loon) and those that don't move the needle or are redundant (anderson, hield, waters, possibly schroder). you will replace them with the guys you already have who are younger and cheaper in santos (GPII), moody (hield), post (anderson), podz (schroder/waters), TJD (looney).
then in the offseason extend kuminga to recreate that large contract slot needed to make a significant move without sacrificing wiggins, and trade him for a bigger fish. it doesn't have to be a 36 years old jimmy buttler, it can be someone still young like zion or in his prime like lavine, but it needs to be someone who is a legit second violin bringing in at least 22-25 points per game. if needed, trade some picks and someone else (podz? moody? dray?) to make ends meet or further shake-up.
this season if a wash anyway, start to plan for the next one. the only 2 untouchables should be steph and wiggo, maybe dray depending on the type of players you can bring in. everyone else should be expendable.
between the deadline and the offseason you need to grow some balls and retool around steph without sacrificing wiggins and maybe dray. that's the only logical path left if you still want to compete for the next 2-3 years.

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Compete i want to know what kind of stuff all you smoke here

def better than yours.

[Romulus]

This isn't about improving the roster for Joe Lacob. He has his eye on the draft, being in the lottery, a selecting the next James Wiseman. The more the Warriors lose, the more Lacob likes it.

[NW]

IF THE GOAL IS STILL TO COMPETE, they have to think medium term here. make 1 or 2 trades that improve the roster at the deadline using the expiring contracts (GPII, loon) and those that don't move the needle or are redundant (anderson, hield, waters, possibly schroder). you will replace them with the guys you already have who are younger and cheaper in santos (GPII), moody (hield), post (anderson), podz (schroder/waters), TJD (looney).
then in the offseason extend kuminga to recreate that large contract slot needed to make a significant move without sacrificing wiggins, and trade him for a bigger fish. it doesn't have to be a 36 years old jimmy buttler, it can be someone still young like zion or in his prime like lavine, but it needs to be someone who is a legit second violin bringing in at least 22-25 points per game. if needed, trade some picks and someone else (podz? moody? dray?) to make ends meet or further shake-up.
this season if a wash anyway, start to plan for the next one. the only 2 untouchables should be steph and wiggo, maybe dray depending on the type of players you can bring in. everyone else should be expendable.
between the deadline and the offseason you need to grow some balls and retool around steph without sacrificing wiggins and maybe dray. that's the only logical path left if you still want to compete for the next 2-3 years.

That would be the direction I take. If anything, GP2/Loon/Schroder expirings represent $30 mil of tradeable salary that is just lost at the end of the season. GS will still be over the cap, so it doesn't do them any good to let those expire like CP3s deal last summer. Deal those guys for someone like Vucevic and kick that trade piece down the road another year-like they should have done with CP3.

Don't agree with the Wiggins is untouchable part, but not dealing him in a cap dump either.

[Onus]

Gp2/loon/schroder are going to be kept and going to expire and that 30 m is going to go to jks extension. Then we’ll add a rookie and sign some vet mins and we’ll hear about how trades are hard and they tried to make a trade in the off season.

[Mac1958]

Looks like Nurkic might be available.

Nurkic/Post? Size overnight.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43567084/suns-jusuf-nurkic-says-budenholzer-relationship

[BayAreaDub]

Nurkic is cooked

[NW]

Safe to say that’s not happening with Draymond here

[jozef]

Schroeder and Looney for Nurkic and Monte Morris works.

[superunknown]

Gp2/loon/schroder are going to be kept and going to expire and that 30 m is going to go to jks extension. Then we’ll add a rookie and sign some vet mins and we’ll hear about how trades are hard and they tried to make a trade in the off season.

ok, but in this case this FO and ownership should stop baffling about always trying to compete and win, just shut it.

[whatisacenter]

Schroeder and Looney for Nurkic and Monte Morris works.

Why?

I don’t think this makes the Warriors better and at best it’s a break even move.

[jozef]

It does make them bigger at C and MM would play solely PG backup. Nurkic was 15 ppg scorer and 2 bpg defender. Setting huge screens and 4 apg guarantee him being a solid fit. Maybe it would make Dray more humble and improve his behavior
Of course Vucevic would be better fit cause of his shooting.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Id love to buy low on Reed Sheppard.

Wonder if they'd take kuminga or podz instead of future picks.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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