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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4041 » by cdubbz » Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:40 am

Zion's contract could be a massive bargain if he turns it around...IF.

$34M, $39, $42, and $44m in '27-'28 season.

If Draymond is out for extended period of time the Warriors cank 100% tank with Steph out there solo dolo. Huge risk i know, but does anyone think a change of scenery can help Zion?

Not too many disgruntled superstars out there.
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Post#4042 » by Coxy » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:02 am

cdubbz wrote:Zion's contract could be a massive bargain if he turns it around...IF.

$34M, $39, $42, and $44m in '27-'28 season.

If Draymond is out for extended period of time the Warriors cank 100% tank with Steph out there solo dolo. Huge risk i know, but does anyone think a change of scenery can help Zion?

Not too many disgruntled superstars out there.


Does Zion even like basketball?

He may do, but he doesn't like it enough to commit himself to being the most professional athlete he can be, and that's the risk. I don't think the Warriors front office take the chance on such an undisciplined athlete that could blow out a knee or back at anytime due to his lack of care in his huge explosive body.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4043 » by cpower » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:34 am

whatisacenter wrote:
cpower wrote:
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Why would a team want Draymond?

his contract is reasonable and he fits the heat culture. btw its not for him, its for JK. Do you think heat will get a better deal elsewhere?


Two years ago he punched a teammate, last season he was suspended and this year he is breaking down. He has 2 1/2 years remaining on his contract....not sure how reasonable that is.

2 years at 25M is not bad, he can play small 5 and can contribute to winning , someone will take a gamble
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4044 » by cdubbz » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:10 am

Coxy wrote:
cdubbz wrote:Zion's contract could be a massive bargain if he turns it around...IF.

$34M, $39, $42, and $44m in '27-'28 season.

If Draymond is out for extended period of time the Warriors cank 100% tank with Steph out there solo dolo. Huge risk i know, but does anyone think a change of scenery can help Zion?

Not too many disgruntled superstars out there.


Does Zion even like basketball?

He may do, but he doesn't like it enough to commit himself to being the most professional athlete he can be, and that's the risk. I don't think the Warriors front office take the chance on such an undisciplined athlete that could blow out a knee or back at anytime due to his lack of care in his huge explosive body.


I don't think so and i've personally been staying away from Zion trade talks....BUT his salary is not awful for a superstar. If i were the GM trading for him i would buy low as hell and not give up any first round picks. I'd want to know his true desire. Is he more Shawn Kemp or AD? Kemp got fat and never was himself. AD just needed a new home and was still himself. i know...different types of players, but that is what i think about.
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Post#4045 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:02 am

cpower wrote:
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cpower wrote:his contract is reasonable and he fits the heat culture. btw its not for him, its for JK. Do you think heat will get a better deal elsewhere?


Two years ago he punched a teammate, last season he was suspended and this year he is breaking down. He has 2 1/2 years remaining on his contract....not sure how reasonable that is.

2 years at 25M is not bad, he can play small 5 and can contribute to winning , someone will take a gamble


If drays body is breaking down, I'm not sure there's a market for him. Maybe the lakers and that's about it.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4046 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:04 am

Dray breaking down is exactly what happens when you refuse to trade a guy or hold on too long. Let's hope he's got some more miles on him because nobody's taking him.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4047 » by Coxy » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:07 am

cdubbz wrote:
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cdubbz wrote:Zion's contract could be a massive bargain if he turns it around...IF.

$34M, $39, $42, and $44m in '27-'28 season.

If Draymond is out for extended period of time the Warriors cank 100% tank with Steph out there solo dolo. Huge risk i know, but does anyone think a change of scenery can help Zion?

Not too many disgruntled superstars out there.


Does Zion even like basketball?

He may do, but he doesn't like it enough to commit himself to being the most professional athlete he can be, and that's the risk. I don't think the Warriors front office take the chance on such an undisciplined athlete that could blow out a knee or back at anytime due to his lack of care in his huge explosive body.


I don't think so and i've personally been staying away from Zion trade talks....BUT his salary is not awful for a superstar. If i were the GM trading for him i would buy low as hell and not give up any first round picks. I'd want to know his true desire. Is he more Shawn Kemp or AD? Kemp got fat and never was himself. AD just needed a new home and was still himself. i know...different types of players, but that is what i think about.


I'm scared Zion turns into Sean May.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4048 » by watch1958 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:43 am

Lots of minutes for Moody three games in a row. Must be trying to inflate trade value.
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Post#4049 » by Onus » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:38 pm

Koc suggested trading dray to det or dal. Talking about firsts or even multiple. Like what? Yes please.
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Post#4050 » by whatisacenter » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:41 pm

Onus wrote:Koc suggested trading dray to det or dal. Talking about firsts or even multiple. Like what? Yes please.


LOL, Like any team would give up a first for Dray.....I want some of what KOC is smoking.

I would take just getting him off the roster if they can find a team silly enough to want him.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4051 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:57 am

Teams that recognize and need Draymond's talent - any VET team (other than Suns) in the top 10 needing to get over the top. That includes Lakers, Bucks, Denver, Dallas, Clippers, Cavs, OKC.

Say what you want about the guy (I'm pretty sick of him lol), he IS a clutch winner and any of the above teams that lands him get an immediate edge on everyone else.
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Post#4052 » by Jester_ » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:57 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:Koc suggested trading dray to det or dal. Talking about firsts or even multiple. Like what? Yes please.


LOL, Like any team would give up a first for Dray.....I want some of what KOC is smoking.

I would take just getting him off the roster if they can find a team silly enough to want him.


I could see a team desperate for making that leap like Dallas bite (especially now with Lively down). But a first definitely feels like a stretch

If we can swap Dray for 2nd round picks that would be a dream
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4053 » by Coxy » Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:42 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Teams that recognize and need Draymond's talent - any VET team (other than Suns) in the top 10 needing to get over the top. That includes Lakers, Bucks, Denver, Dallas, Clippers, Cavs, OKC.

Say what you want about the guy (I'm pretty sick of him lol), he IS a clutch winner and any of the above teams that lands him get an immediate edge on everyone else.


I can see both Jokic and Giannis straight up punching Dray in the face after a game that he gets tossed for doing something stupid in, after 1 week of being on their teams. It would be comedy gold.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4054 » by watch1958 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:47 pm

This is the most minutes Moody has played in a four game stretch in his career. They must be trying to pump up his trade value.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4055 » by Jax_23 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:20 am

Looney + Waters for Valanciunas

Wiggins & Schroder for CJ McCollum & Matkovic

(throw in picks as needed)


PG - Curry
SG - CJ
SF - Kuminga
PF - Draymond
C - Valanciunas

that's a strong, balanced, and vet starting 5

#2 option for Curry + low post threat
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Post#4056 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:34 am

Jax_23 wrote:Looney + Waters for Valanciunas

Wiggins & Schroder for CJ McCollum & Matkovic

(throw in picks as needed)


PG - Curry
SG - CJ
SF - Kuminga
PF - Draymond
C - Valanciunas

that's a strong, balanced, and vet starting 5

#2 option for Curry + low post threat


Lol, who plays defense? Steph might be the second best defender in that starting line up.

And you want to throw in picks to downgrade from wiggins to CJ?
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4057 » by Onus » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:54 pm

watch1958 wrote:This is the most minutes Moody has played in a four game stretch in his career. They must be trying to pump up his trade value.

There's a lot of injuries which is opening up playing time for him. Our 3 normal pfs are all hurt
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4058 » by jaymo123 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:07 pm

Thoughts on Kelly Olynyk? May not have to part with much and is a stretch big.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4059 » by cdubbz » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:50 pm

jaymo123 wrote:Thoughts on Kelly Olynyk? May not have to part with much and is a stretch big.


I'd rather go for Vooch at $20m. Warriors just need another guy who can get a bucket at this point.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#4060 » by cdubbz » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:51 pm

Hindsight:

Warriors probably had a shot at Lavine for CP3 and fillers last season. I wasn't high on Lavine, but now looking like it would have been a STEAL.
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